Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 05:14:53PM +0800, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote: I suppose you agreed to move the suggests if it does affect minimal install: https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/013365.html Not really. If you select a minimal install no suggests should be installed. However,

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-11 Thread You-Cheng Hsieh
2012/4/11 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: However, seems that in almost every install seahorse might be installed (tv saying that we go from something like glib - gio - .. - seahorse). Almost every install might have glib going to seahorse. That bit is the concern. I don't care about minimal; in

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-10 Thread You-Cheng Hsieh
2012/4/7 Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com: If thos of you lucky enough to have missed the beginning of the story, here are the importants parts: - first round: bug #4357, still marked as release blocker (despite a bit excessive IMHO) - second round: discussion on -dev, archived here:

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 03:29:56PM +0800, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote: If there's no objection, I would like to commit to svn and someone can submit it before beta3. We can test it and decide to keep or revert it before RC. The discussion is just a repeat of a previous discussion. Please refer to

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-10 Thread You-Cheng Hsieh
2012/4/10 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 03:29:56PM +0800, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote: If there's no objection, I would like to commit to svn and someone can submit it before beta3. We can test it and decide to keep or revert it before RC. The discussion is just a repeat of

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-08 Thread David Walser
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2012/4/7 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.04.2012 19:18, Thomas Spuhler kirjutas: On Saturday, April 07, 2012 08:38:39 AM Guillaume Rousse wrote: To summarize it: - has anyone any opposition to remove the totem-mozilla - KDE relationship in the installer ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-08 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 08/04/2012 17:06, David Walser a écrit : Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2012/4/7 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.04.2012 19:18, Thomas Spuhler kirjutas: On Saturday, April 07, 2012 08:38:39 AM Guillaume Rousse wrote: To summarize it: - has anyone any opposition to remove the

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-08 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le dimanche 8 avril 2012 21:02:48, Anne Nicolas a écrit : totem was proposed in Mandriva as there was no stable enough video player in KDE. Then we had Codeina managing codecs using only gstreamer. That's all. :) Totem don't work out the the box. I have a set of videos with different formats.

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-08 Thread David Walser
Pierre Jarillon wrote: Le dimanche 8 avril 2012 21:02:48, Anne Nicolas a écrit : totem was proposed in Mandriva as there was no stable enough video player in KDE. Then we had Codeina managing codecs using only gstreamer. That's all. :) Totem don't work out the the box. I have a set of

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:12:57AM +0200, Pierre Jarillon wrote: Totem don't work out the the box. I have a set of videos with different formats. With totem, few of them work without a lot a install (sometimes conflicting). Dragon is not better out the box. Only VLC works with all my

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-08 Thread John Balcaen
2012/4/8 Pierre Jarillon jaril...@abul.org: Le dimanche 8 avril 2012 21:02:48, Anne Nicolas a écrit : totem was proposed in Mandriva as there was no stable enough video player in KDE. Then we had Codeina managing codecs using only gstreamer. That's all. :) Totem don't work out the the box. I

[Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
If thos of you lucky enough to have missed the beginning of the story, here are the importants parts: - first round: bug #4357, still marked as release blocker (despite a bit excessive IMHO) - second round: discussion on -dev, archived here:

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-07 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Saturday, April 07, 2012 08:38:39 AM Guillaume Rousse wrote: If thos of you lucky enough to have missed the beginning of the story, here are the importants parts: - first round: bug #4357, still marked as release blocker (despite a bit excessive IMHO) - second round: discussion on -dev,

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-07 Thread Sander Lepik
07.04.2012 19:18, Thomas Spuhler kirjutas: On Saturday, April 07, 2012 08:38:39 AM Guillaume Rousse wrote: To summarize it: - has anyone any opposition to remove the totem-mozilla - KDE relationship in the installer ? I'd go for this. I'm not so sure about that. Are there any other

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/4/7 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.04.2012 19:18, Thomas Spuhler kirjutas: On Saturday, April 07, 2012 08:38:39 AM Guillaume Rousse wrote: To summarize it: - has anyone any opposition to remove the totem-mozilla - KDE relationship in the installer ? I'd go for this. I'm not

Re: [Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

2012-04-07 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Saturday 07 April 2012 18:47, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: I'm using Firefox but totem-mozilla is one of those packages I unmark everytime in individual package selection without any regression for Firefox. I do the same, and likewise have no problems. -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: