[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
TinyMCE has advanced and has a good mobile interface. The change Cecilia made in https://reviews.mahara.org/11075 allows to swipe even when device detection is turned on. I don't think we need this library any more only to hide the import and export buttons. When sites have 'Export via queue' enabled, the export could be triggered from a mobile device and completed on a regular computer. ** Changed in: mahara Milestone: None => 21.04.0 ** Summary changed: - Do we still need device detection? + Remove mobile device detection -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Remove mobile device detection Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 19.04.0 => None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 18.10.0 => 19.04.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 18.04.0 => 18.10.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
Currently, when device detection is turned off, swiping will be disabled. See bug #1749308 A better solution would be the one described there so that we can still remove device detection. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 17.10.0 => 18.04.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 17.04.0 => 17.10.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 16.10.1 => 17.04.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Changed in: mahara Milestone: 16.10.0 => 16.10.1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
Hi Aaron, Your suggestion of removing device detection sounds reasonable as there is no big difference between not having device detection and not and switching between the two is probably not done much. We will still need device detection though for the audio recording that we want to implement. I would suggest to always have TinyMCE available though on mobile devices and use device detection only for the export tab then and audio/video recordings. Cheers Kristina -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
I still can't get TinyMCE to work on iOS though no matter whether device detection is turned on or not. Using the example at https://www.tinymce.com/docs/demo/classic/ I can see the TinyMCE buttons on the iPad and iPhone. So it might be something on how it's implemented in Mahara. We have bug #1576643 for that issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
The latest version of TinyMCE works fine in our supported range of mobile OS'es. The export tab was disabled, I think, because in iOS there'd be no place for the download to go. I'm not sure whether that's still true, but it certainly works fine for Android. For most of the other situations where we might want to change our behavior depending on the device, we've farmed that complexity out to a third-party library that does its own sniffing and decision making (i.e. mediaplayer, pdfjs, jQuery, etc). There are two remaining things I think we might want device detection for... and they match up pretty closely with the two current things we do: 1. TinyMCE: Works fine in mobile, but I think we might want to change the layout of the buttons to fit on a mobile browser better. If we could do that in a responsive way that would be best, but otherwise, using device detection might be a good way to handle it. 2. The export tab. Can iOS handle download of ZIP files? If not, then we still need to detect iOS in order to hide it. However, I think we could at least remove the settings related to device detection. So no more "disable device detection" user preference, and no "allow device detection" site setting. Instead, we'll just detect devices automatically. And if a power-user wants to get the desktop version of the site, they can change their browser's user-agent. (Or maybe replace the "allow device detection" setting with a "show desktop site" setting.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
Currently, device detection does two things: 1. Disables TinyMCE 2. Hides the "Portfolio -> Export" navigation tab There is also code in htdocs/lib/web.php, in the smarty() function, which looks at the results of device detection and puts them into some Smarty template variables. But since 15.10, we no longer actually read those Smarty variables, at least not in any of the core themes. 1. $HANDHELD_DEVICE 2. $MOBILE 3. $DROPDOWNMENU (to disable dropdown menus; in 15.10 we show them anyway) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Mahara-contributors] [Bug 1539322] Re: Do we still need device detection?
** Summary changed: - Do we still need devicee detection? + Do we still need device detection? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mahara Contributors, which is subscribed to Mahara. Matching subscriptions: Subscription for all Mahara Contributors -- please ask on #mahara-dev or mahara.org forum before editing or unsubscribing it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539322 Title: Do we still need device detection? Status in Mahara: Triaged Bug description: Mahara 15.10 introduced Bootstrap. All themes are now responsive. When I tested the "Deactivate device detection" functionality, I couldn't see much of a difference when using the site. I did notice the content chooser was displayed the start of the words instead of only showing the icon on the "Edit page" screen. I wonder if we can remove the custom device detection. You can enable the user turning off device detection in Admin -> Config site -> User settings -> Users can disable device detection. That then happens on the account settings page. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1539322/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors Post to : mahara-contributors@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mahara-contributors More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
