Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Terri Oda wrote: >I thinks case, case we have to be *much* more conservative about >dependencies. I think Django would be right out as a dependency for Mailman >core, for example. Plus, we're going to have to care a lot more about speed >and all. Definitely. Howev

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

My main suggestion for now is to be very careful and not over-engineer the user database component. Provide something minimal that fits the bill and has a minimum of security, e.g. basic-auth over localhost, and possibly https. For now, I think it would be fine as a Django app if that makes thing

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

On Apr 19, 2013, at 07:18 AM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >Are you starting to come around to the concept that I have been advocating >for a long time? It's always been part of my thinking, and it's most evident in the use of interfaces internally. Time will tell whether we've accomplished that o

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: >I think Mailman supports SMTP/LMTP calls to discover whether a sender is >permitted to post to a list, doesn't it? MM3's LMTP server currently only does a limited sanity check on the messages. E.g. does the To: field name an existing mailing list[

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Barry Warsaw writes: > > > I still think this wouldn't be a handler, but a rule. > >Is this distinction implemented and enforced by the API? It is. There are two distinct interfaces, IHandler and IRule, with diff

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

Terri, thanks for kicking off this discussion! On Apr 18, 2013, at 01:34 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >On 13-04-18 2:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Main comment: Sounds like LDAP to me. >Actually, this is a really important comment. I was sort of wondering that >too when I started writing the des

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

On Apr 19, 2013, at 02:40 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >My original point was that we should use MILTERs because we shouldn't reinvent >what already has been implemented very well and we shouldn't come up with a >proprietary solution, because that will make it harder to expand Mailman and >also

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 : Authenticated REST-API in Postorius/Django

On Apr 18, 2013, at 01:56 PM, Rahul Gaur wrote: >Talking about authentication, django-restframework has a wrapper for OAuth2 >out of the box, but I will have to check how to use non form data sources. I keep hearing terrible things about OAuth2. OAuth1 is nice and simple and there are plenty of

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Setting up a VM.

On Apr 18, 2013, at 01:10 PM, Chris Cargile wrote: >The cause in both cases seems to stem from failing at the SMTPLayer, where >it shows: [Error98] Address already in use. This almost always means that some runner process from a previous test didn't exit. I've tried to bulletproof the process ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >And that handler would be - excuse my ignorance I don't program - a Python >function to handle a Python program? Could the handler pass a message over to >e.g. SpamAssassin (Perl) or openDKIM (c code) or any other non Python program >withou

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 project discussion

On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Avik Pal wrote: >also I would like to propose an idea of my own. Many of us set the preference >in mailman to get all the emails of a day batched together, but sometimes >this means we miss important mails(though we get it at the end of the day but >we miss the moment

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Boilerplate and content filtering [was: Introduction and Project Discussion]

On Apr 16, 2013, at 06:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >In more detail, here's something I drafted at the Mailman Sprint. >I can say that Terri got a kick out of it, but remember, it's not >official, it's just my opinion. (I really should put it on the wiki, >but I'm not sure where or even how

mailman-developers@python.org

On Apr 15, 2013, at 08:19 PM, Karl-Aksel Puulmann wrote: >Sadly I haven't heard anything about those merge requests I made a week ago. Yes, sorry, I've been swamped. -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.p

Re: [Mailman-Developers] error installing the mailman web UI

On Apr 14, 2013, at 09:34 AM, Avik Pal wrote: >actually I think the following is behind all these... > >*Download error on http://ish.io/projects/show/restish: [Errno -2] Name or >service not known -- Some packages may not be found!* Buildout should be able to grab restish from PyPI: https://pyp

Re: [Mailman-Developers] error installing the mailman web UI

On Apr 14, 2013, at 12:49 AM, Sneha Priscilla wrote: >Why don't you try re-branching the repository again and start over? Plus >buildout instruction needs sudo access as far as I know, so make sure >you're doing that. You shouldn't need root to do a buildout and run the tests. You can probably e

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Boilerplate and content filtering [was: Introduction and Project Discussion]

On Apr 15, 2013, at 01:05 PM, Sreyanth wrote: >Just hide the boilerplate in the email, giving a link to click. When clicked, >use js to unhide the boilerplate. This would not anyhow require separate >storage. Suggest me something if this is bad! ​​ A problem you would have to work out with this

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi from a student interested in a GSoC project

On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Elias Assarsson wrote: >I have had a look through bin/withlist, mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py to get a >feel for the format of the configuration. Why is bin/withlist relevant for >configuration migration? In that it is way to learn about configuration? Yes. >I guess con

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1 - Relative vs. absolute URLs in admin and admindb interfaces.

On Apr 12, 2013, at 01:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Does anyone know? Probably not . -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/A

Re: [Mailman-Developers] A feature I'd like to emphasize for GSoC ...

On Apr 12, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >... is *convenient access to logs via the admin interface*. +1. Can you add that to the wiki page? -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.or

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 - GNU Mailman - Introduction and Project Discussion

On Apr 11, 2013, at 01:52 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >Writing individual pipelines may be trivial, but making a user interface for >managing said pipelines is non-trivial. Right now, our pipeline management >interface is "there's a text box in postorius that lets you choose a >pipeline. It's not even

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 - GNU Mailman - Introduction and Project Discussion

On Apr 12, 2013, at 08:28 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >I think it would be real nice to have a MILTER interface at LMTP server level >to allow mail modification as required. Mailman runs in large environments and >all the 'large organizations' I have worked asked my team and me to customize >ho

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 - GNU Mailman - Introduction and Project Discussion

On Apr 12, 2013, at 01:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >A couple of people have mentioned anti-spam, and it's a frequently >requested feature. Nevertheless, I don't think we should spend Google >money and mentor time on it. >From the core's perspective, I tend to agree that there is some inter

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi from a student interested in a GSoC project

On Apr 11, 2013, at 07:02 PM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >I encourage any GSoC candidates to actively discuss design issues on this >list. Many aspects of MM3 remain only partially defined and still require >design in addition to the coding that will follow. Although some might expect >the mentors

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi from a student interested in a GSoC project

On Apr 11, 2013, at 02:22 PM, Elias Assarsson wrote: >> * MM2's configuration file is a Python file which really must be imported >> in order to get a valid set of values. MM3's configuration file is a stack >> of .ini-style files. >I am trying to find and understand the configuration files so t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi from a student interested in a GSoC project

On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Elias Assarsson wrote: >I do not know if it is a good idea but I am thinking that using Augeas >http://augeas.net might be a way to handle the migration of configuration >from one format to another. Definitely investigate these tools, although my suspicion is that th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 - Introduction and Project Discussion

On Apr 08, 2013, at 01:59 PM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >Well, the Django ORM does run on python 3. So, even if it isn't "the best", >it is a possibility. Is it usable outside of Django? -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Mailman-De

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 - Introduction and Project Discussion

On Apr 08, 2013, at 07:02 AM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >Although we would like for MM3 to run on Python 3, I don't think that all of >our dependency libraries are ready for that yet. I am running MM under >Python 2.7 We're down to two dependencies: restish and storm. I took a crack at restish

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

On Apr 08, 2013, at 04:07 PM, Surya Kasturi wrote: >Since no one had so far configured mailman on windows, I guess, I can try >it (not now but.. later on). Why not we build an executable for windows >(.exe) for users to install? This could take sometime to port and solve >conflicts.. but at the en

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

On Apr 08, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Ooh, tasty! How about a Mailman Raspberry Pi? > >Seriously, Barry, ya think it's possible? > >This would solve the environment problem for students! Dunno if it's >strictly better than an AWS instance, but I bet many would prefer it. It'

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

On Apr 08, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Chris Cargile wrote: >..what if we could invite/reach out to administrators who've chosen to host >their apache project-lists using 'mod_mbox approach' to consider MM3 as a >replacement solution? Please note too that MM3 supports an IArchiver interface, for which mul

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - introductions

On Apr 04, 2013, at 07:59 PM, Karl-Aksel Puulmann wrote: >I'm Karl, 2nd year bachelors CS student from University of Tartu in >Estonia. Welcome Karl! FWIW, I'm utc-4 but feel free to ping me on #mailman during any overlapping time. -Barry ___ Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] error while setting up mailman on ubuntu please reply

On Apr 01, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote: >it looks like installation of one of the dependencies is failing, but it's >a little hard to say which one and why (at least to me). >Maybe there's a buildout expert on the list who has seen this kind of >traceback before and can provide help rig

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 : Authenticated REST-API in Postorius/Django

Hi Rahul, welcome to mailman-developers! On Mar 29, 2013, at 02:32 AM, Rahul Gaur wrote: >I haven't implemented RESTful API's before , but I have started learning >more about REST and HTTP protocols already and I hope that I would be in a >better state by the time GSOC starts. I highly recommen

Re: [Mailman-Developers] unable to tear down.. [errno 98]

On Mar 11, 2013, at 09:47 AM, Chris Cargile wrote: >I hope to offer suggestions on ways to make developing easier for newcomers >after succeeding in getting a test score of 100% and to provide a URL from >which an image file (.vmdk format) can be wget'ed to a more permanent home >for a shareable

Re: [Mailman-Developers] unable to tear down.. [errno 98]

Sorry, I'm just plain slammed trying to get ready for Pycon. On Mar 08, 2013, at 04:50 PM, Chris Cargile wrote: >Is the smtp port setting declared in a configuration file used to bind a >mailman instance to a particular process (such as the MTA) on a particular >port? Yes. The base configuratio

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 and New Lists (Templates for Defining?)

On Mar 06, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > IOW, if you changed a style after a list is created, the list > > attributes do not change. In fact, the mailing list doesn't record > > what styles were applied to it. > >OTOH, would it really be that burdensome to keep styles in the >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 and New Lists (Templates for Defining?)

On Mar 05, 2013, at 07:51 PM, Tom Browder wrote: >> Yes, these are called "list styles". See the IStyle interface in >> src/mailman/interfaces/styles.py for the API and >> src/mailman/styles/default.py for the two built-in styles, both essentially >> legacy styles. > >Ah, that's where it is! (An

Re: [Mailman-Developers] buildout instructions

On Mar 06, 2013, at 02:44 PM, Chris Cargile wrote: >python >=2.7 has been done, case these issues are related. Here is the my >buildout-stacktrace in case >someone can advise That looks like a network issue actually. buildout can't seem to talk to server

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 and New Lists (Templates for Defining?)

On Mar 02, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >Earlier I was pointed to the REST API for programatically generating a new >list--looks good. However, the docs mention a default set of attributes for >a new list and I wonder if there are yet any other choices. > >I guess the real question for m

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 286, Issue 7

(I really should catch up on all the threads before I start responding. Sigh, it's been a long day. ;) On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Terri Oda wrote: >Barry just uses the blog functionality as a news area; I'm guessing a "recent >news" page would probably suffice for this. I expect we'll keep t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] background on maintaining the documentation (was RE: Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 286, Issue 9)

On Feb 27, 2013, at 02:33 PM, Chris Cargile wrote: >the Moin system will get us away from the Atlassian licensing hassle AND >would tie in great for enabling a new website for the MM3 release, I'm really hoping we can get onto Moin soon, not only for the above good reasons, but also because of th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki Migration Update

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: >I'll send another update soon. Thanks for being patient! Thanks for the update Paul! Will you be at Pycon? -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.or

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Feb 21, 2013, at 05:19 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I managed to get postorius running after much efforts, and i would >suggest some minor changes in the documentation given at : >http://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/docs/WebUIin5.html > >1. django version required should be changed to 1.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Feb 20, 2013, at 09:34 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I managed to get postorius setup by using python 2.6 . Python 2.7 was >causing all the trouble(don't know why?) How was Python 2.6 and 2.7 installed? It sounds like you were missing an important module. Maybe that's available in your 2.6 ins

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PyCon US 2013 sprint wiki page

On Feb 16, 2013, at 01:22 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >Since I was already poking around in the wiki today, I set up a page for the >PyCon 2013 sprint next month. I'm claiming that Barry and Florian are coming >'cause I'm pretty sure they said they were, but if the rest of you would like >to announce yo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I am writing a test for lmtp runner as follows: > >def test_function(self): >self._lmtp.sendmail(.) >messages = get_queue_messages('in') >self.assertEqual(len(messages), 1) > >self._lmtp.sendmail(.) >message

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Merge] lp:~sakuag333/mailman/BUG_non_queue_runner into lp:mailman

On Jan 21, 2013, at 08:35 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >These lines were changed in my earlier commit, which required certain >fixing. So i re-changed these lines to the original one in my recent >commit to the branch. Hence bazaar was showing all that in the commit >history. It's important to lear

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Jan 17, 2013, at 04:10 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I think that the new test function that i need to add to test_lmtp.py >has to be added to some configuration file or some base class because >while running ./bin/test -vv -t TestLMTP , it runs only 4 tests (for >the functions originally defined

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Jan 17, 2013, at 03:14 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >Is there a way of unning only test_lmtp.py to test lmtp runner or do i >need to do the full test using ./bin/test . Yes, you can run various subsets of tests by using the -t option. MM3 currently uses zope.testrunner. All the gory details:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Jan 17, 2013, at 03:00 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >But since , is_non_queue_runner is set True for lmtp and rest runner, >switchboard instance is not created for them , hence config.switchboards does >not have an entry for lmtp and rest. Is this another bug in the way of >fetching available qu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Jan 16, 2013, at 04:06 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I looked into ConfigurationUpdatedEvent and mailman.cfg and got the bug >corrected :) > >Now coming to creation of test , i am unsure about how to create a test for >the bug and what all things to include in it. >I would really like to know mor

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Non-queue runners should not create var/queue/* directories

On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >enqueue() in switchboard.py create a .pck file for each injected >message in var/queue/* directory. >Say a message injected in incoming queue will have a .pck file in var/queue/in > >But for 'lmtp' and 'rest' runners , if we do not need the cre

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Bug fixes

On Jan 12, 2013, at 02:11 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >After giving much time to understanding mailman's framework , i have >come up with my first two bug fixes. These are my branches on >launchpad: > >lp:~sakuag333/mailman/lmtp-duplicate-id >lp:~sakuag333/mailman/non-queue-runner > >I have submitt

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Non-queue runners should not create var/queue/* directories

On Jan 10, 2013, at 07:31 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I have proposed a bug fix for the following bug: >https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1095422 Great! >My unofficial branch is: >lp:~sakuag333/mailman/my_branch > >How can i know if i have done it correctly, is there some kind of review ?

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HyperKitty : VCS change

On Jan 09, 2013, at 09:11 AM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >I would like to see all of the MM related development migrate. I have no plans to migrate the core off of Launchpad and bzr. Cheers, -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HyperKitty : VCS change

On Jan 09, 2013, at 03:46 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >The HyperKitty project was historically using Bazaar as it VCS, and >was hosted on fedorahosted.org. An essential component was split off >(KittyStore), which was initially source-controlled with Git and >hosted on Github. >I'm trying to bring

Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

On Dec 29, 2012, at 06:01 PM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I have trying to inject many messages into lmtp queue using : > >./bin/mailman inject a...@xyz.com -f message_file -q lmtp > >But whenever i see the number of messages using: > from mailman.testing.helpers import get_queue_messages > >>>

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 22, 2012, at 01:02 PM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I am using python 2.7.3 and bin/py interpreter prompt to run : > master = TestableMaster() master.start() > >But the following error occurs : >-- >Traceback (most

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >Yes i was using python's default interpreter which was causing >problems. /bin/py worked. Cool. >While making "class FakeArgs" for starting master process in mailman, > i am doing config = make_config(), > which gives the following error :

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 21, 2012, at 02:49 PM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >from mailman.commands.tests.test_control import make_config > >i got the following error: > >--- >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:22 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: >For now, this will have to be all the work I am able to do on this project, >but I will resume my efforts again in January. I hope that everyone feels >reassured that this project is no longer forgotten. :-) This is really great news Paul, thank

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 21, 2012, at 01:29 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >1. I was going through ~/runners/lmtp.py in mailman 3 source code and >found a line "from zope.component import getUtility" but there is no >folder named zope anywhere, am i missing something ? After you've done the buildout steps, you'll not

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

On Dec 13, 2012, at 01:47 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: >The first priority is to find out whether Confluence content can still be >exported as XML. The data dumps that I originally used were XML >serialisations of Hibernate databases, but given the user-visible changes >from Confluence 3 to 4, I woul

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Reminder: Mailman/Postorius/Hyperkitty hackathon

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Dec 14, 2012, at 07:04 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote: >this is just a quick reminder that we're having another virtual >hackathon tomorrow! > >Personally, I'll probably start hanging around on #mailman on freenode >around 13:00-ish (UTC). > >Hope to se

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman3 and LDAP

On Dec 12, 2012, at 02:40 PM, Christian Dröge wrote: >I have a question regarding mailman3 and ldap. Is there some kind of >ldap support in mailman3? I heard that it should support it somehow but >I did not find any references to ldap in the code, so I guess this >feature is currently not availabl

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

Hi Paul, On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: >I was under the impression that people would be following the dedicated >mailing list for this work (mmwiki), but it would appear that this is not the >case. Dang. You probably made me/us aware of the mailing list at one time, and if

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

On Dec 10, 2012, at 06:31 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >I think the last time I tried to email them they told me I wasn't on the >designated support list and I had to get you to send them the question, >actually... but I vaguely recall that I might be on the list now. But yeah, >I'll see about asking the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

On Dec 10, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Terri Oda wrote: >I think in the latest wiki update I seem to have lost the ability to turn off >rich text editing, and as a result it's nigh impossible for me to cut and >paste some types of content from one page to another. Also, some pages are >now missing content

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 09, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: >I am particularly interested in this bug/wishlist : >#1082495 Support bracketed prefixes in subject as >filters >https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082495?comments=all > >But not sure where

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 10, 2012, at 04:09 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: >Is the FSF / GPL statement/paperwork still needed? It depends on the size of the contribution. It should not be necessary for smallish bug fixes. -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-D

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On Dec 10, 2012, at 01:46 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Sandesh Agrawal writes: Welcome Sandesh! > > But i have no idea about how to proceed , can somebody help me please. > >Well, first you need to tell us where you're stuck! > >The basic procedure is > >1. Get a Launchpad account (sooner or

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Logo license

On Dec 04, 2012, at 09:21 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >Good morning everyone (© Farnsworth), > >I was wondering if there is a specific license for the Mailman logo. I >could find the svg file on the website [1] but it does not mention a >license. > >Basically, we have someone interested in worki

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dec 15th Mailman/Postorius/Hyperkitty hackathon

On Nov 29, 2012, at 01:49 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >Well, our last online hackathon was sufficiently fun that Florian and I think >we should do it again. > >So... You're all cordially invited to join us on #mailman on freenode on >Saturday Dec 15th to do some Mailman-related hacking, project planning,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] First alpha release of HyperKitty

On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Aurélien Bompard wrote: >HyperKitty, the Mailman 3 archiver, is advancing at a reasonable pace, >and the time has come for its first alpha release. Fantastic! Congratulations Aurélien and everyone else who has contributed. I'm planning on pulling this down and givin

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Listadmin and other alternate interfaces for Mailman

On Nov 05, 2012, at 09:18 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote: >Of course it would be nice if a public API wouldn't require Django. But we >already have authorization functionality for all kinds of roles in >Postorius. And to add a JSON API shouldn't be so hard. I think it's great for Postorius to provide an

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailing Lists and Non-ASCII Addresses

On Nov 06, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >Just published a few minutes ago: > > > >Probably worth to read before pushing MM3 out. https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1076152 Cheers, -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Listadmin and other alternate interfaces for Mailman

On Oct 26, 2012, at 08:29 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >first of all: I don't consider listadmin a contradiction to postorious. >To me listadmin is simply another user interface to mailman for another >user group - those that like to run (automated) commands from command >line or prefer to work

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Logging automatic rejects of incoming posts.

On Oct 19, 2012, at 05:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >When a handler raises Errors.RejectMessage to reject an incoming post, >nothing is logged. I have filed > in preparation for >addressing this. > >My question is what to log. I'm not sure MM3 is any

Re: [Mailman-Developers] add_members and nomail

On Oct 20, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Scot Hacker wrote: > >Ah - Just realized that the project is now on 3.x, but the fix I have is for >2.x (which is also what cPanel still provides). Looking at the 3.x, the >project structure (at least for the command line tools) has changed >radically. Is it still wor

[Mailman-Developers] Manipulate mailman in / out queue (from mailman-users)

[Redirecting part of this discussion from mailman-users to mailman-developers. Mark does a great job of explaining the gory details of the queue runners.] On Oct 16, 2012, at 09:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >First of all, The actual physical size of the queue directory impacts >processing. Every ti

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GHC 12 Open Source Day was amazing!

On Oct 06, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >I think people had a lot of fun seeing their code go live on our test server >and watching their bugs get fixed, and I think we've got a few contributors >who'll be interested in doing more (and maybe, once I wrangle the travel >funds, coming to pyco

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius: Missing Features (Draft)

On Sep 28, 2012, at 09:38 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >2. If you can think of any other "easy" things that need doing for postorious >(or Mailman 3.0, or hyperkitty) please tag them in some way and let me know! Not that you have to change anything in Postorius, but for the core, I've been using the offi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Unforeseen difficulties with the Mailman logo

On Sep 27, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >Thanks Andrija! Going with a solid colour helped a lot. I had to do a bit >of tweaking of the lines to make the button visible from a reasonable >distance (and to offset the low resolution of the printer I have on hand), >but I now have colourful G

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Unforeseen difficulties with the Mailman logo

I am very definitely graphics challenged, but I'm CC'ing Andrija, the artist who generated the original logo. Maybe he has some ideas about adjusting the images for these buttons (which is a great idea, btw!). Cheers, -Barry On Sep 26, 2012, at 02:25 AM, Terri Oda wrote: >So, I'm having a bit o

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman.client

On Sep 21, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote: >P.S.: @Barry: Is there a way to get the "list_id" property from a list >resource in the API? The JSON returned by /3.0/lists/ doesn't >seem to contain such a field. So in order to make mailman.client work with >3.0b2, I simply used fqdn_listname

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >I agree on the basis of introspection (which is obviously a >statistically biased sample), and pretty clearly the people who are >currently posting "will I get feature X if I use Mailman 3" aren't >thinking "I don't mind if I lose features

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >That said, I'm tentatively planning a personal postorious hackathon all day >Saturday the 22nd. If anyone wants to join me, I'll be on #mailman on >freenode! This is a great idea, thanks for suggesting it Terri! I'll definitely try to show up for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman Vs Sharepoint

On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Murls wrote: >Need help on justifying Mailman is not outdated technology and how its >better than Microsoft Sharepoint. First, GNU Mailman is free software, so you have the freedom to use it for any purpose, to make whatever changes you want to suite your specific ne

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding keys in the configuration file

On Sep 17, 2012, at 05:06 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >Please tell me what you think of it, if and where it needs some more work. Is there any chance you could push this to Launchpad as a branch? Patches in email threads are easily missed. Cheers, -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Developers] "newlist" command and Mailman 3

On Sep 15, 2012, at 06:48 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >Is there any output format available other than json? Currently, JSON is the only supported output format. I'd be open to patches that provide other output formats. -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers maili

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On Sep 16, 2012, at 01:41 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: >Part of the attraction in using Mailman 2, was that, for the majority >of tasks end-users want to do, they can do it via the web interface; >certainly an advantage over those "you have to do everything by email, >in the proscribed manner, to the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On Sep 11, 2012, at 05:38 PM, Franck Martin wrote: >Unfortunately, I did not have time to look at porting the optional authorship >settings from the branch I did on mailman 2.1 to 3.0. I suppose this is too >late to make the 3.0 deadline, but from what I saw of the 3.0 code, this does >not seem

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding keys in the configuration file

On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Aurélien Bompard wrote: >True, but I still need to send the message to the store somehow. Yeah, sorry I'm not familiar enough with HyperKitty to know how you get messages *into* it. ;) Cheers, -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding keys in the configuration file

On Sep 13, 2012, at 04:07 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >I didn't intend to put all of HK's config in mailman.cfg of course. But I'm >supposed to reference a class in the archiver.hyperkitty section, which will >be imported on startup, so it must be on the same host. Since there are >already archi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding keys in the configuration file

On Sep 13, 2012, at 06:13 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >Yes, my idea was to have something like that in the mailman.cfg file : > > [archiver.hyperkitty] > enabled: yes > class: hyperkitty.archiver.Archiver > base_url: http://archives.example.com > conf_file: /path/to/django/app/settings.py > >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding keys in the configuration file

On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >The proper way to handle the issue of URLs would be to have the MM core query >the UI for them. However, I have yet to convince Barry that the present >model (where, at present, MM is the only part allowed to be authoritative >over ANY inf

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding keys in the configuration file

On Sep 13, 2012, at 04:53 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >MM won't depend on Django, only if the HK section in mailman.cfg is enabled. >I can't just send the message to the store however, since the IArchiver >interface also has methods to get the list and message's final archive URL, >and that's depe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >As I've mentioned before, I'm interested in seeing dynamic sublists replace >topics in Mailman 3.0. We've got a student working on the port, but honestly >he's been dragging his heels and I'm starting to doubt it's going to be done >by the end of Se

[Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

Hi Mailman developers, I really want to get Mailman 3.0 final out in the next month or so, absolutely definitely by the end of 2012. Clearly, the core won't have everything that everyone wants but I think it will have quite a bit, and be a useful release for people to start using in production.

[Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 2

Hello friends of Mailman! Sometimes we freeze until the light comes Sometimes we're wrong and sometimes we're right I'm happy to announce the second beta release of Mailman 3.0, code named "Freeze". I expect the code name to appropriately reflect the stability of the database schema and

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