RE: [Mailman-Developers] Protecting email addresses from spam harvesters

2002-02-28 Thread Damien Morton
es in html. > -Original Message- > From: Barry A. Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2002 23:01 > To: Paul Schreiber > Cc: Damien Morton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] Protecting email addresses > from spam

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Protecting email addresses from spam harvesters

2002-02-25 Thread Damien Morton
> From: Barry A. Warsaw > > > "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > SJT> You aren't going to make cookies go away, because they really > SJT> really do constitute a service to the browsing public. > > I've given up on the anti-cookie rants, for the most part.

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-22 Thread Damien Morton
> From: Stephen J. Turnbull > > First, since addresses are typically repeated but obfuscated > in different ways, the probability that a given address gets > harvested is much higher than the probability that any given > obfuscated instance gets cracked. Second, you don't need to > get 100%

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-21 Thread Damien Morton
> From: Jay R. Ashworth > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:27:08AM -0500, Damien Morton wrote: > > I wonder if the ADA would accept the need to obscure email > addresses, > > and I wonder if they would accept the extra authentication step > > required to get at the u

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam onpostedaddresses...

2002-02-21 Thread Damien Morton
ay, 21 February 2002 12:24 > To: Dale Newfield; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam > onpostedaddresses... > > > On 2/21/02 8:28 AM, "Dale Newfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Damien Mor

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-21 Thread Damien Morton
> From: Dale Newfield > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Damien Morton wrote: > > OCR is hard > > OCR is hard mostly because of the analog components (and the > variety of fonts that exist). If you are generating the > image digitally (and with a limited set of fonts), mos

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-21 Thread Damien Morton
> From: Nigel Metheringham > > > > From: Dale Newfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > It only works with graphical browsers. > > > > This is true. We are in the 21st century now. Expecting a graphical > > client isnt such a huge leap of faith, unless we allow > ourselves to be > > guided b

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-21 Thread Damien Morton
> From: Dale Newfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Damien Morton wrote: > > I still think the email-address-as-jpeg solution is prohibitively > > expensive to reverse; effectively impossible for machines, entirely > > easy for people. >

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-20 Thread Damien Morton
Anyone have any idea how I set X-No-archive on all emails being sent to a mailman list? Im using Outlook 2002. As far as I know there is no ability to access internet headers in Outlook 2002 without the use of unusual COM objects to get at extended MAPI properties. > -Original Message- >

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam onpostedaddresses...

2002-02-20 Thread Damien Morton
> Have you seen what slashdot is doing? I think it has promise, > because while it's still reversible programmatically, it > makes it much more difficult to do. Will they still get > harvested? Most likely. But not nearly as quickly as most > other sites, and it's going to make the spambots cr

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on posted addresses...

2002-02-19 Thread Damien Morton
> Jay R. Ashworth writes: > Well, neither the JavaScript *nor* the picture are going to > do me much good on the two browsers I use most often: Lynx > 2.8.3 in a konsole window... and GoWeb 6 on my Palm/Minstrel handheld. > > The former may not be especially mainstream, but anyone who > ignore

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam onpostedaddresses...

2002-02-18 Thread Damien Morton
> Chuq Von Rospach: > > On 2/18/02 11:58 AM, "Damien Morton" > > > The first is to enable users to engage list admins and have their > > problems sorted out. > > Some form of obfuscating the email address is needed. But > here's the problem.

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on postedaddresses...

2002-02-18 Thread Damien Morton
I would suggest that a naïve/novice net user will be more familiar with web-based forms and web-based email than the email we know. As I see it there are two issues here: The first is to enable users to engage list admins and have their problems sorted out, while discouraging or eliminating spam

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on posted addresses...

2002-02-18 Thread Damien Morton
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John W Baxter Sent: Monday, 18 February 2002 13:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on posted addresses... At 7:12 -0500 2/18/2002, Damien Morton wrote: >There

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Interesting study -- spam on posted addresses...

2002-02-18 Thread Damien Morton
There are some very simple solutions to the problem of email harvesting. The first is to whitelist all mail. Anything not on the whitelist (be it list membership, or whatever) is responded to with an invitation to fill in a web based form to join the whitelist, the mail is held in abeyance until

[Mailman-Developers] RE: Mailman developer?

2002-01-30 Thread Damien Morton
mail addresses. Im going to join the mailman-developers list with a temporary email address. Get some more input on this issue. -Original Message----- From: Barry A. Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 21:18 To: Damien Morton Subject: Re: Mailman developer?