[Mailman-Developers] membership list count in headers?

2004-07-17 Thread Marc MERLIN
I got a request for adding the membership count of a list as a header of each message posted, in order to remind posters how many people's time they are potentially wasting :) https://mailmanhost/mailman/admin/misc-mv/?VARHELP=nondigest/msg_header doesn't seem to show such a variable Is there on

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: 'empty module name' error and shunting

2003-10-17 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:31:48PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:27, Marc MERLIN wrote: I just wanted to report that one of my mailman servers was also hit by this bug. All mails to the list were stopped until I applied the patch (i.e. the shunted messages weren't

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Attachments

2003-09-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 12:02:26AM -0700, Mike Burton wrote: Does anyone know if there is a patch to strip an attachment from list mail, save it to disk (in the web directory), and insert a URL to the file in it's place with Mailman 2.x? If not, some clues on where this might fit in would be

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Exim tweak

2002-12-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:00:25PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: together. The apparent result of this batching is that the total delivery time [3] for a moderation batch is now reduced by a factor of almost 5. [3] Not a bad side effect for a little idle poking about. Indeed, it will increase

[Mailman-Developers] Uncaught bounce notification

2002-11-29 Thread Marc MERLIN
So, unless I'm missing something, if you use VERP, you should be able to process any bounce from a subscriber. Is it desirable for mailman to pass on a VERP bounce coming from a held message notification sent to a non subscriber? Would it make sense for mailman if it receives a bounce

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Howto submit patches?

2002-11-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:03:38PM +0100, Matthias Juchem wrote: There is a patch manager on sf.net, but apparently without possibily to add a patch, at least for people who are not registered for the project. Mmmh, anyone with an account on sf.net can submit patches. I'm not a registered

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Reasons why personalization of the To/Fromare a bad idea...

2002-11-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 02:06:38PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: 3) I can't prove this, but... Since I went to To/From header personalization, I've started getting complaints about mail not getting to AOL users. Yeah, this is not terribly surprising. I suspect you're running afoul of

[Mailman-Developers] notification d'abonnement de Powerteam_fr

2002-11-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
Is/was there a bug with expanding strings for foreign languages? (my mailman is probably cvs as of 5-6 weeks ago) - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: notification d'abonnement de Powerteam_fr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Administrivia: yes

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:56:47PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Speeaking of Mailman's README.EXIM, do we want to continue to distribute a copy of the exim.org doc, or should we zap that and just include a pointer to the canonical location on the web? Which, I'm assuming, will be

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:18:28PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM == Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MM That'd be nice, but I think Nigel is a bit too busy, I sent MM him my new version too, but he never had the time to post it MM on exim.org Ok. Can you and Greg

[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Exim] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 02:47:10PM -0400, Greg Ward wrote: On 11 October 2002, Marc MERLIN said: I've been meaning to add this: Hmmm, good point. Hadn't thought about it because SMTP callbacks seem a little *too* powerful to me. I think it's more important to add something about

[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Exim] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 09:44:33PM -0400, Greg Ward wrote: Hi all -- I've just spent the last couple of hours beating the README.EXIM document from Mailman's current CVS tree into shape. (This is derived from Nigel Metheringham's HOWTO - Using exim and Mailman together document, which can

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature request: new option forreply_goes_to_list

2002-09-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 09:58:29PM +0200, Simone Piunno wrote: On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 06:19:21PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: (yeah, I know that reply-to munging is considered harmful but I consider more important to keep discussions inside the lists and anyway this has I'm just

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature request: new option forreply_goes_to_list

2002-09-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 09:42:08PM -0700, Peter C. Norton wrote: Now that I think of it, it wouldn't be too hard for mailman when it sends the list copy out to (optionally) remove from Cc all the Emails from members that have the nodupes option set. That way, the Cc would be left

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature request: new option forreply_goes_to_list

2002-09-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 10:08:14PM +0200, Simone Piunno wrote: Hi, I run a bunch of lists with reply_goes_to_list=1 (yeah, I know that reply-to munging is considered harmful but I consider more important to keep discussions inside the lists and anyway this has I'm just amazed at how

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature request: new option forreply_goes_to_list

2002-09-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 06:19:21PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 10:08:14PM +0200, Simone Piunno wrote: Hi, I run a bunch of lists with reply_goes_to_list=1 (yeah, I know that reply-to munging is considered harmful but I consider more important to keep

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: SOURCEFORGE.NET UPDATE: August 14, 2002

2002-08-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:33:19PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: SF Emails sent in a single day from Mailing lists: 851,143 (Monday) ^^^ Actually, I remember that we hit a million a few times :-) Marc -- A mouse is a device used

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman-cvs can't handle .info addresses?

2002-07-07 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 09:12:40AM -0400, Ron Jarrell wrote: It's not wrong everywhere - the actual bounce from their mailer daemon mentions the correct verp address for your list, for instance. Mmmh, looking at it further, it looks like you're right. But look at the way it broke it up:

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman-cvs can't handle .info addresses?

2002-07-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
I have someone who subscribed with a .info address to one of my lists, and I have VERP enabled. Apparently, mailman chokes on that (see the verp address, it's incorrect: it doesn't contain the list name). Does mailman use an out of date list of TLDs anywhere? - Forwarded message from [EMAIL

[Mailman-Developers] 1 SA-Exim moderator request(s) waiting

2002-06-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
So I get this every day, but the page tells me there are no pending requests. Any ideas? moremagic:/var/local/mailman/lists/sa-exim# l total 28 drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jun 12 00:05 ./ drwxrwsr-x 22 root mailman 4096 May 7 21:44 ../ -rw-rw1 www-data mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] hide web interface from users and Resultsof your email commands

2002-06-03 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:36:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Can I suppress the Results of your email commands email for this list or alternatively for the whole site? - Is there a way to suppress most parts of the web-interface for a list. Yes to both, but not without hacking the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] bug demonstration

2002-06-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
]?subject=subscribe List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: GNU Mailman developers mailman-developers.python.org Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:54:42PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: If this works as expected, all the headers below the subject line

Re: [Mailman-Developers] bug demonstration

2002-06-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
message-Ids in reference lines On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:33:57PM -0400, Ron Jarrell wrote: At 12:16 AM 6/2/02 -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: Ahah, and now it barfs on python.org too. I don't get this bug, I really don't... Yea. It's not simple line length. It also appears to really need

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Contributing code?

2002-06-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:06:17PM -0500, David Gibbs wrote: Folks: How does one go about contributing code? I've made some small changes in my cvs sandbox that I think would be useful for the core code. Do I mail them to someone (Barry?) for consideration, post them here, what? If the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Contributing code?

2002-06-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:47:34PM -0500, David Gibbs wrote: At 06:29 PM 6/2/2002, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Better yet, post it on the SF patch manager, so it doesn't get lost in my inbox! ;) Ok. What's the prescribed method of preparing a good diff? cvs diff? cvs diff -u :-) Marc --

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Contributing code?

2002-06-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:58:44PM -0500, David Gibbs wrote: At 06:54 PM 6/2/2002, Marc MERLIN wrote: cvs diff -u :-) Mmmh, no, that'd make your patch inversed. You sure? I just ran a diff on my patch and it looks right to me... Never mind, you're right. Too much hacking, not enough

[Mailman-Developers] compile error in mailman cvs?

2002-05-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
I just synced my tree, and: make[1]: Entering directory `/var/local/src/mailman-cvs/misc' for p in email-2.0.4 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.5 KoreanCodecs-2.0.4; \ do \ gunzip -c $p.tar.gz | tar xf -; \ (cd $p ; PYTHONPATH=/var/local/mailman/pythonlib /usr/bin/python setup.py --quiet install

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 'make install' error in cvs

2002-05-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 12:04:46PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: DG File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/_compat22.py, line DG 21 yield self ^ | SyntaxError: invalid syntax | ^C [ I killed it at this point ] | interrupted | make[1]: *** [install-packages] Error

[Mailman-Developers] mailman-cvs broke config_list

2002-05-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
I updated to CVS a few days ago and I'm now getting this: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/local/mailman/bin/config_list, line 270, in ? main() File /var/local/mailman/bin/config_list, line 262, in main do_output(listname, outfile) File /var/local/mailman/bin/config_list, line

[Mailman-Developers] bounce processor doesn't seem to work with digest bounces ?

2002-05-20 Thread Marc MERLIN
This bounce didn't get handled by mailman even though it went to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see Received lines), [EMAIL PROTECTED] is subscribed to the list, and I'm pretty sure VERP bounce processing is working otherwise. Any ideas?

Re: [Mailman-Developers] bounce processor doesn't seem to work withdigest bounces ?

2002-05-20 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 03:02:30PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: This bounce didn't get handled by mailman even though it went to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see Received lines), [EMAIL PROTECTED] is subscribed to the list, and I'm pretty sure VERP bounce processing is working

[Mailman-Developers] Bug between mailman 2.0/2.1 and outlook reference field.

2002-05-17 Thread Marc MERLIN
: Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: testing reference field References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]004001c1fe06$3f5be350$a3c5e80c@MoeA 011c01c1fe07$6d8edd30$647ba8c0@C1912731A test 2 - End forwarded message - The HTML approve window shows this: Message Headers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] how to mass-set user options?

2002-05-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
2) The new nodupes setting is really something you probably want as a default on all lists. I also had lists were people wanted notmetoo as a default too. Ben's fix for that is to have a bitfield per list that you can set and that states which options newly added users

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Upgrading from 2.0.10 to 2.1.b2

2002-05-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 09:40:42PM -0500, Bill Bradford wrote: One thing Ive had to do when moving lists between machines (both running 2.0.9/10), is newlist the lists on the destination machine, then overwrite the $prefix/lists/$listname directories/files and $prefix/archives/private/

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Announce] RELEASED Mailman 2.1beta 2

2002-05-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 10:16:13PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: I would kill for a post-filter. Why? So I can inject every message with the URL of where it sits in the web archives. Yeah, liststar does that, and it's *quite* nice. Never mind, I misread. What I meant to say is that it'd

[Mailman-Developers] Traceback on double rename

2002-04-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
I have a user who says he got this on mailman 2.1b1cvs He explains below how he did it. - Forwarded message from David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: Mailman results for Empeg-faq From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Administrivia: yes This is an automated response.

[Mailman-Developers] Re: CVS branches?

2002-04-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
[moved to mailman-developers] On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 05:52:30PM -0700, Ellen Spertus wrote: I could use some advice here. I took a snapshot because I'm making a lot of my own changes to the code, i.e., adding dynamic sublists. My Yeah, I know about that problem :-) short-term goal is to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Editability of messages

2002-04-20 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 06:04:03PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM I'll probably also contribute a small script that watches the MM number of messages in the mailman queue, and sends a warning MM if there are more than X (meaning that you have some serious MM backlog, or some

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Editability of messages

2002-04-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 06:02:30PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: I've updated the FAQ entry with some useful information for MM2.1. Cool, thanks. BTW, I *very* seldom edit messages that are held for moderation. I think twice it was because I forgot to change my posting address from my

Re: [Mailman-Developers] message posting in a loop with mailman 2.1b1

2002-04-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:44:16AM -0700, John W Baxter wrote: Nor is it what I see running Mailman with Exim. But I haven't ventured into 2.1b1 yet. How does Mailman deliver the messages to Exim? Err, over port 25. I'm not sure I understand the question you probably meant to ask though :)

Re: [Mailman-Developers] message posting in a loop with mailman 2.1b1

2002-04-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:33:59PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: SMTP 451 Temporary local problem - please try later MM The problem is that mailman decided that the whole post MM failed, and started to resend it in a loop. If I'm reading RFC 2821 correctly, this is the right

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Number of Mailman users?

2002-04-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:30:53PM -0700, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 04:58:28PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: Either mailman or majordomo, hard to say. Majordomo had a big installed base, but it's losing grounds quickly (it was far from being the best, but it was the most

[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Editability of messages

2002-04-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 07:55:01AM -0400, Tom Neff wrote: Billie R. McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using version 2.0.8 for a moderated list. But, we aren't able to edit messages before approving them (for example, to delete just one inappropriate word). How can we do this?

[Mailman-Developers] message posting in a loop with mailman 2.1b1

2002-04-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
I just upgraded one of my servers to exim 4 and mailman choked badly on having exim refuse a message because exim did this: DNS lookup of scruznet.com (MX) gave TRY_AGAIN scruznet.com in dns_again_means_nonexist? no (option unset) returning DNS_AGAIN lookuphost router: defer for [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Number of Mailman users?

2002-04-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 04:36:27PM -0700, Ellen Spertus wrote: Any ballpark estimates on the number of Mailman subscribers globally? Given that the FAQ mentions a list with 147,000 users, it seems safe to say that there are millions of Mailman users. What do you think? Yes, there are

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Number of Mailman users?

2002-04-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 04:47:31PM -0700, Ellen Spertus wrote: Do we know what the most popular open-source mlm is? My guess would be Mailman, but that's just off the top of my head. Either mailman or majordomo, hard to say. Majordomo had a big installed base, but it's losing grounds

[Mailman-Developers] Changing web_page_url in mm 2.1

2002-04-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
I have web_page_url set to the wrong value for a list I just created. Outside of using config_list, is there any easier way to change the domain the list is in? Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing web_page_url in mm 2.1

2002-04-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:38:00AM -0700, Dan Mick wrote: I have web_page_url set to the wrong value for a list I just created. Outside of using config_list, is there any easier way to change the domain the list is in? I believe config_list won't do it. withlist. Indeed,

[Mailman-Developers] os.unlink error with mm 2.0.9

2002-04-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
This happened twice on sf.net about 12H after the upgrade to 2.0.9 Apr 09 02:28:06 2002 usw-sf-list1 qrunner(9416): Traceback (most recent call las t): Apr 09 02:28:06 2002 usw-sf-list1 qrunner(9416): File /var/local/mailman/cron /qrunner, line 282, in ? Apr 09 02:28:06 2002 usw-sf-list1

Re: [Mailman-Developers] os.unlink error with mm 2.0.9

2002-04-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:44:48PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Arrgghh! Can you say MM2.0.10? :( Sorry. See attached patch. Applied, thanks. It should be. The first one is because somebody's got something bogus in their message header, the second because they've enabled

Re: [Mailman-Developers] os.unlink error with mm 2.0.9

2002-04-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:03:48PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: See attached patch. MM Applied, thanks. Can you keep an eye on the log files for a few days? I'm going to apply the same patch on python.org and watch it there too. If all looks good for a few days I'll release

Re: [Mailman-Developers] SF bug report #223533

2002-04-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:17:50PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: I'm in a mad quest to reduce the number of open Mailman bugs to under 50 so it fits on one page. I'm nearly there. I'll get someone to increase the page length to 100 bugs. No, don't thank me, I'm just glad I could help :-)))

Re: [Mailman-Developers] SF bug report #223533

2002-04-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:26:09PM -0800, Dan Mick wrote: It's fairly old blush but it's complaining that there is no way to tell the difference between a list posting and an administrative message via the List-* headers. What's an administrative message? message foo needs moderation

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Yet another weird-a$$ potential attack problem...

2002-04-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:41:35PM -0500, Ron Jarrell wrote: At 12:13 AM 4/5/02 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: E.g. we could shut off email confirms altogether and force only web confirmations. Or we could be more Majordomo-ish as JC describes. I think all potential subscribers to *any*

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 2.0.x qrunner bug (bad one)

2002-04-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:39:06PM -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: I've just identified a pretty bad bug in mailman 2.0.x qrunner. It can cause messages to get lost, so, I almost hate to say this, Barry, but it might be time for a quick 2.0.9 patch. Given the changes to queuing in 2.1, I

[Mailman-Developers] RFE: configurable bounce message

2002-03-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
I had to modify the string Moderate.py to give a more appropriate reject message. Ideally this should be a string per list. - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: test 3 From: x To: y You are not allowed to post to this mailing list without being subscribed, and your

Re: [Mailman-Developers] install trouble

2002-03-29 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 02:32:27AM -0500, Ron Jarrell wrote: Am I being too biased towards Postfix to the detriment of other MTAs? Well, I do get the impression that Postfix is the Official MTA of Mailman, although you're welcome to use one of those *sniff* Other MTA's... Funny, I thought

Re: [Mailman-Developers] install trouble

2002-03-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:20:19PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: RJ == Ron Jarrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RJ Ah, I see what's going on.. configure changed between 2.0.5 RJ and 2.1; in 2.0.5 it just checks other mail demon for RJ possible groups - and at the time I reviewed

Re: [Mailman-Developers] unshunt error

2002-03-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:14:23PM -0500, Ron Jarrell wrote: /home/mailman/bin/unshunt * Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/mailman/bin/unshunt, line 76, in ? main() File /home/mailman/bin/unshunt, line 64, in main usage(1) File /home/mailman/bin/unshunt, line

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Does anyone have digests working with mailman 2.1b1?

2002-03-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:04:12PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: The mail stops here, there is no body whatsoever. Ok, after clearing my CVS tree, re-installing mailman from a freshly built CVS tree, and restarting the qrunners, I still get this: I just got digest #3, and again, the body

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Modifications to msg

2002-03-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:12:54PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: RFC 2822 explicitly states that Reply-To can contain a list of headers. RFC 822 is more ambiguous. To my mind this single fact (if used with Reply-To aggregation) obviates most of the arguments in the Reply-To Munging Considered

[Mailman-Developers] Re: Dealing with SMTP server down + SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION fix

2002-03-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 07:19:45PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: mailman-cvs gives me: Mar 16 19:18:23 2002 (28557) Uncaught runner exception: (111, 'Connection refused') (...) File /usr/lib/python2.1/smtplib.py, line 222, in connect self.sock.connect((host, port)) error: (111

[Mailman-Developers] rejecting messages depending on To:/Cc: content

2002-03-18 Thread Marc MERLIN
Just to make sure I got this right: If I go to (let's say): http://lists.svlug.org/lists/admin/speakers/privacy/spam I can set values in acceptable_aliases In http://lists.svlug.org/lists/admin/speakers/privacy/sender I can get mailman to auto-reject or discard messages depending on the sender

[Mailman-Developers] Dealing with SMTP server down

2002-03-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
mailman-cvs gives me: Mar 16 19:18:23 2002 (28557) Uncaught runner exception: (111, 'Connection refused') Mar 16 19:18:23 2002 (28557) Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 103, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature freeze / release timeline?

2002-03-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:14:17PM -0600, Bill Bradford wrote: Any idea on a feature freeze /release timeline for 2.1? RSN :-) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature freeze / release timeline?

2002-03-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:57:55PM -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: Correction: RRRSN. :) As I remember it, Barry wants to ship 2.1 by February. Eh, I'm supposed to be the smartass around here :-) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security

[Mailman-Developers] Released: New option for mailman-cvs: reply-to munging per user

2002-03-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 01:18:54AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: Per Barry's recommendation, I wrote this by adding a flag for each user and duping each list message (munged and non munged version) and sending the right version to each user. Just in case someone wonders why we went this way

Re: [Mailman-Developers] nodupes feature

2002-03-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:56:36AM -0500, Dale Newfield wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Marc MERLIN wrote: - no dupe patch written by Ben and already in mailman cvs thanks to Barry Just wanted to note that one big piece of this (which is currently left out) still causes other problems

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Does mailman-cvs remove reply-to?

2002-03-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 01:46:33PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM Basically, I'm saying that if I post to a list without MM reply-to munging, if I set (as a poster) a reply-to, it MM doesn't make it to the list. (I just checked on 2 other MM machines where I have

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Does mailman-cvs remove reply-to?

2002-03-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:20:05PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM == Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MM Mmmh, I'm really not sure why one would want that. I think the idea is that a list admin might want to force reply-to-alls to go back to the whole list. Reply

[Mailman-Developers] Feedback needed: nodupes patch and reply-to munging per user

2002-03-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
[I'm Ccing mailman-developers in case a few people there aren't on mailman-users, but please reply on mailman-users] Ben Gertzfield wrote a patch which Barry recently included in mailman-cvs which allows you to not receive the list copy of a message in you were Cced in the headers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Does mailman-cvs remove reply-to?

2002-03-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 04:01:42PM -0500, Bob Puff@NLE wrote: Reply to all will reply to the Reply-To + To + Cc list in the MUAs I looked at. Not true for all. I guess I'm not too surprised. I'm not too sure the behavior in this case is well defined. I just know that when I Cc

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [BUG] Users are created as moderated in CVS mailman

2002-03-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 08:30:03PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: However, I just realized that when I prepared my updated patch that I fed to Barry last week, I forgot this: --- mailman-wp/Mailman/versions.py Fri Aug 17 14:40:28 2001 +++ mailman/Mailman/versions.py Thu Sep 6 12:55:00 2001

[Mailman-Developers] Does mailman-cvs remove reply-to?

2002-03-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On my test list, which doesn't have reply-to munging enabled, if I send a test post with a reply-to header, it doesn't make it to the list (or to ToOutgoing for that matter) Before I look into this deeper, is this just me? Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Does mailman-cvs remove reply-to?

2002-03-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:49:05AM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM == Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MM On my test list, which doesn't have reply-to munging enabled, MM if I send a test post with a reply-to header, it doesn't make MM it to the list (or to ToOutgoing

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [BUG] Users are created as moderated in CVS mailman

2002-03-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:02:33PM +0900, Ben Gertzfield wrote: I'm not at all sure why this is, but on a completely fresh install of CVS mailman, even though DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS = 256, all my new list members are created with the 'moderated' flag on. Look for this in Defaults.py: #

Re: [Mailman-Developers] list_members doesn't return the whole membership list

2002-03-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:22:55PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM == Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MM root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/bin# ./dumpdb MM ../lists/test3/config.pck | grep user_options 'user_options': MM {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': 266}, MM root@gandalf

[Mailman-Developers] Do we need the password in the HTML of the confirm page?

2002-03-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
When I went to: http://gandalf-lists.merlins.org/lists/confirm/test2/372ff4ab4ca390f3c3bfabd47cd78e92489a0b5d (don't bother trying, it's localhost on my laptop :-D) I get an HTML page to confirm my subscription. I haven't looked at the code in details, but does mailman need to put the list

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Updated dupe removal patch

2002-03-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 05:16:21PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Okay, I've looked over all the code. Except for some stylistic issues, which I'll just correct as I go, my biggest concern is the database used in AvoidDuplicates.py. Yeah, I looked at that too, but being tired, I didn't get

[Mailman-Developers] updated patch: remove member from all the lists

2002-03-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
This version of the patch add --fromall which lets you remove a specified Email from all your lists (replaces my _alllists_ special hack) --- ../../src/mailman-cvs/bin/remove_membersFri Sep 7 16:18:47 2001 +++ remove_members Mon Mar 4 23:02:17 2002 @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ Remove members

[Mailman-Developers] buglet, changing options on an already deleted member

2002-03-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
I bring up an admin page, from the shell, I remove a user I change the user options in the web form, and click submit Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 82, in run_main main() File /var/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 166, in main

[Mailman-Developers] list_members doesn't return the whole membership list

2002-03-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/bin# ./dumpdb ../lists/test3/config.pck | grep user_options 'user_options': {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': 266}, root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/bin# ./list_members test3 root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/bin# On bigger lists, list_members returns some of the list

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Error: Invalid value '' for variable: accept_these_nonmembers

2002-02-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 11:00:54PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM I've changed GUI/GUIBase.py with the hopes to output a better MM error: try: val = self._getValidValue(mlist, property, wtype, MM val) except ValueError: doc.addError(_(Invalid value MM '+val+' for variable:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] problem with VERP stuffing all the messages in one connection

2002-02-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:56:03PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM == Marc MERLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MM When VERP is enabled, mailman apparently sends all the Emails MM over one SMTP connection. Actually, I don't think it has anything to do with VERP. Won't normal

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Can't get VERP to do much

2002-02-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 01:27:49PM -0800, Dan Mick wrote: root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/Mailman# grep VERP_ mm_cfg.py VERP_FORMAT = '%(bounces)s+%(mailbox)s=%(host)s' VERP_REGEXP = r'^[^+]+?\+(?Pmailbox[^=]+)=(?Phost[^@]+)@.*$' VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = 1 VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Protecting email addresses from spam harvesters

2002-02-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 07:40:20PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Actually, we're no worse off than we were before, in fact, it should now be better. How many messages have /you/ gotten from people receiving the password reminder from a list they never heard of? The funny thing is that I've

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Protecting email addresses from spam harvesters

2002-02-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:03:14PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MM The funny thing is that I've gotten lots of hate mail saying MM how do you dare sending my my mailman password in MM cleartext. STOP THIS NOW!!!, but not one why did this come MM from [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)

[Mailman-Developers] New uber exim transports/directors

2002-02-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
I've modified Nigel's exim transports (hopefully in good). Please review and tell me if this is fit for a patch to Barry: (I'll also submit an exim 4 version if those are good) The director now deals with VERP bounces and with lists that have -command in their name (like mailman-owner, which

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Problems with Cookie.py while upgrading

2002-02-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 11:48:11PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: DO And the problem is, that update script will try to remove the DO unused Cookie.py, but it will first import it (indirectly) so DO the whole update scrtipt fails to execute and has no DO possibility to delete

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Can't get VERP to do much

2002-02-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:25:45AM -0800, Dan Mick wrote: 'cat' on the .pck isn't extremely useful; how about bin/dumpdb? Sorry, I thought cat was enough. Dumpdb doesn't seem to show anything else: root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/bin# ./dumpdb

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Can't get VERP to do much

2002-02-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:25:14PM -0800, Dan Mick wrote: File /var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 112, in __verpbounce if bmailbox mo.group('bounces'): IndexError: no such group Are you sure Defaults.py is up-to-date? Specifically, VERP_FORMAT and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Potential risk of VERP?

2002-02-25 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 01:24:08PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets disabled, thus shutting off a large list of recipients. Or will/should yahoogroups rewrite the envelope sender for /its/ downstream members? yahoogroups should rewrite the envelope sender to catch

[Mailman-Developers] mailman wrapper chokes on unknown commands

2002-02-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] - So I was debugging this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Child process of mm21_transport transport returned 6 from command: /var/local/mailman/mail/mailman and found out that the mailman wrapper returns 6 with no error

Re: [Mailman-Developers] my top 3 wishlist for mailman cvs

2002-02-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 03:00:05AM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: I've added a new configuration variable to Defaults.py.in, called ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES. Set this to true and authenticating to a list admin login page with the site password, and Mailman will drop a cookie representing the

[Mailman-Developers] exception for post from non list member

2002-02-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
I have mm 2.1a4cvs setup to refuse posts from non members and forward a copy to the list owner. This only happens if generic_nonmember_action is set to reject (accept, hold, and discard work) Feb 21 00:51:39 2002 (55) Uncaught runner exception: get_type Feb 21 00:51:39 2002 (55) Traceback (most

[Mailman-Developers] auto discard doesn't seem to work as expected.

2002-02-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
I now tried to set non member posts to auto-discard. If I do not set forward_auto_discards, it works as intended. If I set it, it works as if the list were moderated (the poster gets a notice that the message needs moderation and the list owner gets a notice that there is something to moderate)

[Mailman-Developers] two small patches for mm 2.1a4cvs

2002-02-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
--- ../../src/mailman-cvs/build/contrib/check_perms_grsecurity.py Wed Feb 20 23:37:35 2002 +++ check_perms_grsecurity.py Wed Feb 20 23:42:57 2002 @@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ os.chmod(file, 06755) print \nMaking mail wrapper setuid mailman -file= paths.prefix + '/mail/wrapper'

[Mailman-Developers] upgrading a private list from mm 2.0 to 2.1a4cvs

2002-02-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
Apparently, when I upgraded a list that had posting for members only, this setting didn't get translated into the new generic_nonmember_action / Hold I believe it defaulted to Accept. For migrating sites with many lists, having that convertion done automatically would be good.

[Mailman-Developers] Correct public archive URLs

2002-02-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
URLs were missing the trailing slash, which caused an extra http request and an http redirect. diff -urN mailman-cvs.orig/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py mailman-cvs/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py --- mailman-cvs.orig/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py Mon Feb 11 15:14:16 2002 +++

[Mailman-Developers] mailman-cvs and email.Charset

2002-02-20 Thread Marc MERLIN
First, I got: Compiling /var/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/update, line 47, in ? from Mailman import MailList File /var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 49, in ? from Mailman.Archiver import Archiver File

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