[Mailman-Developers] GDPR disclaimers and redaction in mailman 2

2018-07-25 Thread John Levine
Someone has asked me about some adjustments mailman 2 related to what they think they have to do for GDPR compliance. One is to add some checkbox stuff to agree at subscription time that you understand what info you're providing. I expect this could be spliced in the same way CAPTCHAs are. Anoth

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-24 Thread John R Levine
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017, noskcaJ leahciM wrote: You might need to pay for a consultation this time. We did. There is indeed a lawful basis for processing that is archiving in the public interest. But you simply misunderstand those provisions if you believe they give any public or private operato

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-24 Thread noskcaJ leahciM
You might need to pay for a consultation this time. There is indeed a lawful basis for processing that is archiving in the public interest. But you simply misunderstand those provisions if you believe they give any public or private operator of every archived mail list scope to deny the right to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-24 Thread John Levine
In article <01qj5jk26gxi000...@encompasserve.org> you write: >| tl;dr > >Too long: The regulation and articles are even longer. > >Didn't Read: But you replied none-the-less ;-) Having been talking to some actual lawyers about GDPR compliance, I find this analysis absurd. Specifically about the r

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
noskcaJ leahciM writes: > It's the law. Some of us have to deal with it; like it or not. > GDPR merely calls for explicit consent (where appropriate). E.g. > A picture is worth a thousand words: None of this is helpful to me; as far as I can tell it's not responsive to what I wrote or aske

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-17 Thread noskcaJ leahciM
| noskcaJ leahciM writes: | | > | tl;dr | > | > Too long: The regulation and articles are even longer. | > | > Didn't Read: But you replied none-the-less ;-) | | I read EVERYTHING. Above is advice to my readers: "I read, so you | don't have to". ;-) | | I feel sorry for anyone who hangs

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
noskcaJ leahciM writes: > | tl;dr > > Too long: The regulation and articles are even longer. > > Didn't Read: But you replied none-the-less ;-) I read EVERYTHING. Above is advice to my readers: "I read, so you don't have to". ;-) I feel sorry for anyone who hangs out in places where "exe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-15 Thread noskcaJ leahciM
Barry Warsaw wrote: | noskcaJ leahciM wrote: | > GDPR is nearing the last 7 months of its 2 year transitional | > implementation before becoming part of the law in EU countries (inc., | > despite Brexit, the UK), affecting 0.5bn citizens together with US | > enterprises in und

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
noskcaJ leahciM wrote: > GDPR is nearing the last 7 months of its 2 year transitional > implementation before becoming part of the law in EU countries (inc., > despite Brexit, the UK), affecting 0.5bn citizens together with US > enterprises in under Privacy Shield (replacing S

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-15 Thread noskcaJ leahciM
| tl;dr Too long: The regulation and articles are even longer. Didn't Read: But you replied none-the-less ;-) ! I don't think this is worth thinking about until we get a | request from users who actually are threatened with liability for | their Mailman installations. There will be installation

[Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
tl;dr I don't think this is worth thinking about until we get a request from users who actually are threatened with liability for their Mailman installations. Suggestions from where we can obtain funding to do this stuff? The harder parts are non-trivial. noskcaJ leahciM writes: > 1. The term

[Mailman-Developers] GDPR

2017-09-07 Thread noskcaJ leahciM
GDPR is nearing the last 7 months of its 2 year transitional implementation before becoming part of the law in EU countries (inc., despite Brexit, the UK), affecting 0.5bn citizens together with US enterprises in under Privacy Shield (replacing Safe Harbour) as well as enterpr