Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-13 Thread Simon Fromme
I think I would second the idea of having a single component/database that is responsible for the management of user information. Am 12.08.2015 um 16:23 schrieb Barry Warsaw: The other components are in a pullrelationship with core, Is this mechanism of pulling user information from the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-13 Thread Andrew Stuart
I think I would second the idea of having a single component/database that is responsible for the management of user information. The problem is that the larger Mailman ecosystem is designed to be a loose collection of components so there is no way to define what information each component

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-13 Thread Andrew Stuart
Having said all that, one thing that might work is for the Mailman Core to provide the ability to retrieve key/value pairs that can be attached to any given resource. This is sufficiently simple to mean it would present no problems for forward compatibility. key/value pairs would suffice for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andrew Stuart writes: So there is something to be said for a very simple Mailman Core key/value store mechanism that would meet some simple needs. The argument against this is “well you’re going to outgrow it pretty quick anyway so why not immediately start with a more full featured

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: The big problem is that as Simon points out we no longer have a truly centralized database. Each component now keeps user information related to itself, but it's not communicated across the components very well. This is true, and it bites

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: One of the things I think we need is better holistic documentation which describes how to use the integrated system, The big problem is that as Simon points out we no longer have a truly centralized database. Each component now keeps user information related to itself,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman 3] Granting Postorius web access to Mailman users?

2015-08-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 11, 2015, at 05:43 PM, Simon Fromme wrote: 2. Is there a timeframe in which a good Mailman 3 documentation can be expected? I find it quite hard to solve problems myself given the small amount of informationon the web right now. One of the things I think we need is better holistic