Re: [Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

2012-04-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 07:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 01:57:03AM -0600, Terri Oda wrote: > > It's looking like we're going to have more student applicants than in > > previous years, so I think it'd be great if we could get a few more > > mentors to match. > > > > If

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:04:23PM -0700, David Jeske wrote: > On Apr 2, 2012 3:07 PM, "Terri Oda" wrote: > >> This agrees with my view of the situation as well. Which leads to the > >> question, is the above approach interesting/viable for Mailman-team? > >> (assuming the code does something awes

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:04:23PM -0700, David Jeske wrote: > HOWEVER, I personally will not write GPL code. I might submit a tiny patch > or bugfix, but I'm simply opposed to restrictions on how someone uses > something that I'm trying to donate to the software community. +1. (as well as the bl

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > I don't think you're going to find the will to make this sort of decision > right at this instant because what we want the archiver ecosystem to look > like for mailman3 is somewhat in the air.  Do we really want an obviously > less capable

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Bob Puff
> I think it would be a mistake to bundle any archiver with mailman3. > Listing the available archiver options and their features and > shortcomings would be a better way to go. -1 I think the majority of MM users will be simply using the RPM that comes with their distro, and there is a real ben

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bob Puff wrote: > I think the majority of MM users will be simply using the RPM that comes with > their distro, and there is a real benefit to stuff working right "out of the > box".  This includes the Archiving functions. > > Its great to have options, and giving

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread David Jeske
On Apr 3, 2012 8:14 PM, "Bob Puff" wrote: > > I think it would be a mistake to bundle any archiver with mailman3. > > Listing the available archiver options and their features and > > shortcomings would be a better way to go. > > -1 > > I think the majority of MM users will be simply using the RPM

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread David Jeske
On Apr 3, 2012 11:58 AM, "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: > > The question is "would you BUNDLE another archiver even if the licenses > > don't match?" > Where could your archiver fit into that sequence of impressions? I'm not > entirely sure. I think that it probably couldn't be bundled into the same

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:41:42AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bob Puff wrote: > > > I think the majority of MM users will be simply using the RPM that comes > > with > > their distro, and there is a real benefit to stuff working right "out of the > > box".  This in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, David Jeske wrote: > On Apr 3, 2012 8:14 PM, "Bob Puff" wrote: >> I think the majority of MM users will be simply using the RPM that comes with >> their distro, and there is a real benefit to stuff working right "out of the >> box".  This includes the Archiving fu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > From the talk about what it means to be a FSF project at the mailman sprint > at pycon I don't think a non-FSF copyright assigned archiver would be > bundled into mailman (Core). AFAIK there are no "FSF projects", although the FSF does sup

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread Terri Oda
On 12-04-03 11:08 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: So David's program can't be *part* of GNU Mailman without special permission, which I doubt the GNU Project (ie, RMS, AFAIK) will grant (and would require delicate negotations in extreme good humor on our part, based on past experience trying to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-04-03 Thread David Jeske
This thread is slowing down my coding! :)(it's been really helpful though all, thanks for the many perspectives!) On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Terri Oda wrote: > It occurs to me that it's perfectly reasonable to assume that people who > *package* mailman for different distributions may c