[Mailman-Developers] Web Posting Interface: Additional Features.

2013-04-29 Thread Peter Markou
Hello everyone in the community. As you may or may not know, I've applied a proposal in Melange for Web Posting Interface. The description of the project idea states: "the interface itself may not take the whole summer", so I've come up with some features that I would like to implement for Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-29 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 27 Apr 2013, at 14:40, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > I don't think that "we" have the expertise to create a "secure" system. At > best, we can adopt good practices and provide an obscured traffic stream. I > consider anything more to be beyond the scope of the MM project. > Also, what kind

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Web Posting Interface: Additional Features.

2013-04-29 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 29 Apr 2013, at 09:39, Peter Markou wrote: > Hello everyone in the community. As you may or may not know, > I've applied a proposal in Melange for Web Posting Interface. > The description of the project idea states: "the interface > itself may not take the whole summer", so I've come up with

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-29 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Richard Wackerbarth writes: > My point is that IMHO it's flexible *enough*. > >> I'm advocating that we attach the roles (whatever they may be) to >> an entire collection of lists. > > I know what you're advocating, and I agree with th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-29 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 29.04.2013 11:40, Ian Eiloart wrote: > Also, what kind of secure list would have automated processing of > message content as a requirement? imho you're asking the wrong question ;-) _All_ network communication should be encrypted, it is a pity that mail encryption is so little adopted. > If

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ian Eiloart writes: > Also, what kind of secure list would have automated processing of > message content as a requirement? Precisely, a list that wants to avoid this requirement: > If a message is gpg encrypted, then every sender would require the > public keys of every recipient, would the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-29 Thread Richard Damon
On 4/29/13 5:40 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: > Also, what kind of secure list would have automated processing of > message content as a requirement? If a message is gpg encrypted, then > every sender would require the public keys of every recipient, would > they not? Which means that a PKI for the list h

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Richard Wackerbarth writes: > So you have at least three layers. Do you really think that it is > more difficult to implement a general recursive tree than it is to > implement those layers? No. What I think is difficult is to implement a general recursive tree *and* an API for expressing pro

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-29 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Richard Wackerbarth writes: > >> So you have at least three layers. Do you really think that it is >> more difficult to implement a general recursive tree than it is to >> implement those layers? > > No. What I think is difficult is to

[Mailman-Developers] About authentication (was Re: Architecture for extra profile info)

2013-04-29 Thread Terri Oda
1. I would like to remind/tell you all that FOR THIS RELEASE, we will ONLY be supporting Mozilla Persona and passwords as authentication methods. This is not up for discussion at this time; it's a choice we've made to in order to help move the release forwards. 2. As such, any discussion of

Re: [Mailman-Developers] About authentication (was Re: Architecture for extra profile info)

2013-04-29 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Terri Oda wrote: > 1. I would like to remind/tell you all that FOR THIS RELEASE, we will ONLY be > supporting Mozilla Persona and passwords as authentication methods. This is > not up for discussion at this time; it's a choice we've made to in order to > help move

Re: [Mailman-Developers] About authentication (was Re: Architecture for extra profile info)

2013-04-29 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-29 3:25 PM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: I'll go further than that and suggest, for the purpose of GSoC: [snip details] These are good if you're going to do the implementation. If you're not, I'm happy to leave some of these details up to the person who actually writes the code. T

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Richard Wackerbarth writes: > There are two aspects of using a "generic tree". The first is some > customization of the tree to fit the installation's delegation > model. Here, I would suggest that "sample base installations" Once again, you're making an argument based on theory that nobody di

[Mailman-Developers] About authentication (was Re: Architecture for extra profile info)

2013-04-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Terri Oda writes: > 1. I would like to remind/tell you all that FOR THIS RELEASE, we will > ONLY be supporting Mozilla Persona and passwords as authentication > methods. > 3. While I agree that thinking about these things in advance is useful, > I think this discussion is starting to cro