Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-06 Thread skip
>> In fact, it is quite easy to argue that with a programmatic interface >> and access to cron my "spread out the pain" request is better >> implemented there. Stephen> "There" being in Mailman itself? Or in cron? (It's not Stephen> obvious to me whether Mailman could do thi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
s...@pobox.com writes: > Stephen> If Mailman can do it *better* than cron, that would be another > Stephen> matter. That point is arguable, but my personal preference > Stephen> would be to provide a generic feature that both cron and other > Stephen> possible schedulers could

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 05, 2010, at 06:15 AM, s...@pobox.com wrote: >I haven't followed MM3 discussions closely, but if there is some sort of >extension capability or programmatic API it might be useful to provide a >demonstration of how to reproduce the defunct monthly mailing using such an >interface. Yes to b

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 04, 2010, at 06:34 PM, David Andrews wrote: >At 11:25 PM 4/1/2010, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>David Andrews writes: >> >> > Some other list software, I believe, has a feature that sends out a >> > canned message once a month, such as list rules. I would like to see >> > this in MM3 >>

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-05 Thread skip
Stephen> If Mailman can do it *better* than cron, that would be another Stephen> matter. That point is arguable, but my personal preference Stephen> would be to provide a generic feature that both cron and other Stephen> possible schedulers could take advantage of. In fact, it is

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-05 Thread skip
[ on the topic of the demise of the monthly mailing ] I haven't followed MM3 discussions closely, but if there is some sort of extension capability or programmatic API it might be useful to provide a demonstration of how to reproduce the defunct monthly mailing using such an interface. Is MM3 fa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Andrews writes: > I disagree, not everyone who runs a list has access to the command > line, and/or the means or ability to set up a Cron Job, so something > through the Web UI would be useful! Of course it would be useful to people who are using platforms that were designed to make Ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-04 Thread David Andrews
At 11:25 PM 4/1/2010, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: David Andrews writes: > Some other list software, I believe, has a feature that sends out a > canned message once a month, such as list rules. I would like to see > this in MM3 -1. This is mission creep. A cron job will serve perfectly well

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 02, 2010, at 09:30 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >That's a good point. I think a better way to handle this might be an >Urgent flag (I guess we can't use Precedence for this, unfortunately, >list mail should still be bulk in most cases) accompanied by an >appropriate authentication. Whic

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
s...@pobox.com writes: > I assume the monthly reminder emails have be canned for a reason. They do > have the nice property of sending something to every subscribed address, > even those who are set NOMAIL. That's a good point. I think a better way to handle this might be an Urgent flag (I g

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-02 Thread skip
Stephen> David Andrews writes: >> Some other list software, I believe, has a feature that sends out a >> canned message once a month, such as list rules. I would like to see >> this in MM3 Stephen> -1. This is mission creep. A cron job will serve perfectly Stephen> well

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Andrews writes: > Some other list software, I believe, has a feature that sends out a > canned message once a month, such as list rules. I would like to see > this in MM3 -1. This is mission creep. A cron job will serve perfectly well. Something that assists in setting up such cron

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread David Andrews
At 03:01 PM 4/1/2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: s...@pobox.com wrote: > >At any rate, that solves one problem but creates another, right? In MM3 how >will you weed out bad email addresses? Again, this may already be accounted >for somehow. If so, I'd be happy to learn how you do it without attempting

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
s...@pobox.com wrote: > >At any rate, that solves one problem but creates another, right? In MM3 how >will you weed out bad email addresses? Again, this may already be accounted >for somehow. If so, I'd be happy to learn how you do it without attempting >to send email to an address then process

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread skip
Barry> Or how about we just get rid of them? :) I wasn't sure what you meant until I saw Mark's reply. I guess I wasn't listening to the silence between the notes. ;-) At any rate, that solves one problem but creates another, right? In MM3 how will you weed out bad email addresses? Again,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
s...@pobox.com wrote: >Perhaps this is on the feature request list already, or better yet, Barry >borrowed Guido's time machine when I wasn't looking, however... As barry already noted, there will be no reminders in MM 3. >I help administer a number of python.org mailing lists. MM sends out >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 01, 2010, at 11:59 AM, s...@pobox.com wrote: >I realize that getting Mailman to grok more rejection notice formats is a >worthwhile goal, however I think it would also be helpful to spread the pain >of invalid email addresses more evenly through the month, at least across >mailing lists but

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:59:05AM -0500, s...@pobox.com wrote: > Perhaps this is on the feature request list already, or better yet, Barry > borrowed Guido's time machine when I wasn't looking, however... > > I help administer a number of python.org mailing lists. MM sends out > subscription rem

[Mailman-Developers] MM feature request - spread out the pain

2010-04-01 Thread skip
Perhaps this is on the feature request list already, or better yet, Barry borrowed Guido's time machine when I wasn't looking, however... I help administer a number of python.org mailing lists. MM sends out subscription reminders on the first of each month. This inevitably leads to a huge number