[Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Enriko Groen
Heyhey, Wouldn't it be good to state that Mailman is for Unix servers only in the beginning of the websites pages? I think it would bounce of a few dozen of people who subscribe to this list and will get disapointed anyway. And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't know

RE: [Mailman-Users] Instability of Mailman or ?

2001-06-13 Thread Enriko Groen
-Original Message- From: Louiza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Yes, but the problem is that I am not allowed access to any logs. The way my webhost has Mailman set up is that I can create mailing lists, configure them, and manage the subscriptions, but that's about as far as it

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wednesday 13 June 2001 02:25 am, Enriko Groen wrote: And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't know how to leave the list. All they have to do is to display the headers of one of the mail messages. The unsubscribe information is in there. .../Ed --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Instability of Mailman or ?

2001-06-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
L == Louiza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: L Yes, but the problem is that I am not allowed access to any L logs. The way my webhost has Mailman set up is that I can L create mailing lists, configure them, and manage the L subscriptions, but that's about as far as it goes. You're

[Mailman-Users] Start archiving an 'old' list

2001-06-13 Thread David Bengtsson
Dear gurus, My archive is up and running for a couple of lists, but I have one list that's not been archived. The question is how I create the directorys I need to start archive this specific list. If I take a look in my ~mailman/archives/private/ folder it looks like this: (list1 is up and

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #1257 - 16 msgs

2001-06-13 Thread ron
hey guys I was trying to set up my list to be like this list ie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] every time i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it goes into the moderation section and i have to approve it.. this is not what i want. i simply want the

[Mailman-Users] remove_members -a listname?

2001-06-13 Thread Tim Tyler
mailman, Since the remove_members command is owned by mailman, it appears it can only be run by the site manager. Is it possible for a list owner to run this command or some other variation for his list only? -perhaps via an email command? Tim Tyler Network Engineer - Beloit College

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread JC Dill
On 06:56 AM 6/13/01, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: EG == Enriko Groen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EG Wouldn't it be good to state that Mailman is for Unix servers EG only in the beginning of the websites pages? I think it would EG bounce of a few dozen of people who subscribe to this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriptions

2001-06-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
when I get one of these -- I do it. If a user complains when they get the unsub note -- I simply refer them to their admin, since he told me to. It's his domain. I see no reason to second-guess him, or waste time arguing with him. If he's an idiot, better off he's idioting elsewhere. On

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 07:53 AM, JC Dill wrote: I subscribe to the teach them to fish method, I used to. Now I'm in the parents don't want justice, they want quiet mode, and I do what's fastest and easiest for me, which is usually to just unsubscribe them. I've had one too many

[Mailman-Users] keep formated text ?

2001-06-13 Thread CJoe
Dear all, I am truly amazed by the features incorporated to MAILMAN...itsfunctionality is like the very expensive/commercial LSoft's Listserv ... I upload (to auto-responses) formated text like this: I have a quick question: it is possible to maintain the text

[Mailman-Users] Digests getting the wrong reply-to/from address...

2001-06-13 Thread Pug Bainter
Good Morning, On some of my digests (I haven't verified all of them) I've noticed a problem that the return address is the listname-request instead of the listname. This causes problems when people reply to them. Where is this setting and what can I do to fix it? Ciao, -- Pug

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread JC Dill
On 08:44 AM 6/13/01, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 07:53 AM, JC Dill wrote: I subscribe to the teach them to fish method, I used to. Now I'm in the parents don't want justice, they want quiet mode, and I do what's fastest and easiest for me, which is usually

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread JC Dill
On 08:17 AM 6/13/01, Satya wrote: On Jun 13, 2001 at 07:53, JC Dill wrote: There are too many people on the Internet these days who CAN NOT view all the message headers. AOL hides many headers. Hotmail hides many headers. Yahoo hides many headers. Even if there is some process the user

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriptions

2001-06-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:37:09 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I get one of these -- I do it. If a user complains when they get the unsub note -- I simply refer them to their admin, since he told me to. I have a short almost canned paragraph I roll out: Due to

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 09:55 AM, JC Dill wrote: Which means that they will expect ME to do the same when they come to my list. You don't have to kvetch at me over this. I know this. I've been on the net for 20 years now, teaching people how to fish. I've taught enough people to

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Satya
On Jun 13, 2001 at 08:08, JC Dill wrote: On 06:56 AM 6/13/01, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: The first sentence under the Requirements, Download section of Mailman currently runs only on Unix-y systems, such as Linux, Put it on the home page. Not a bad idea, but the requirements section

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Satya
On Jun 13, 2001 at 09:59, JC Dill wrote: On 08:17 AM 6/13/01, Satya wrote: The software that hides so many headers with no way of viewing them is broken. Yes, and AOL 6 is broken in that it doesn't (easily) let the sender send in Plain Text. If 20% of your users use AOL 6, what are you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman for Windows

2001-06-13 Thread JC Dill
On 02:11 PM 6/7/13, Lars T. Soeftestad wrote: Hi Mailmen/women! Have loked at Mailman, and thought it would be perfect for my use. Which is: a regular newsletter to people working on community-based natural resource management (CBNRM), mostly in developing countries, as an adjunct to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Amanda
JC Dill wrote: I don't let clueless newbies tell me what they want me to do for them. Period. Occasionally someone tries to boss me around and gets roasted for their efforts. I bet they won't try that again with the next list admin... And if it keeps them off mailing lists entirely (go

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 11:38 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: They don't want you to teach them how to fish ... learning is hard, and they might hurt themselves on the hook. many times, this really means we need improved fish hooks. Frankly -- while list server software has made big

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Phil Stracchino
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:46:41AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 11:38 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: They don't want you to teach them how to fish ... learning is hard, and they might hurt themselves on the hook. Is it the idiot's fault if they can't

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:08 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote: What gets me frustrated is the people who actively *don't want* to understand, because no matter how simple it is, they want it done for them why is the internet supposed to be immune from real life? you've never seen people

RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscriptions

2001-06-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
MR == Mark Roedel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MR but it's simply not a productive use of an admin's time MR (especially when we're talking about larger lists) to go MR combing through the web membership management screens for MR every subscribed address within a domain In MM2.1,

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
A == Amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A What I want to know is, how can someone who runs filmless A contrast-doppler radiology equipment, or microneurosurgical A tools, etc., complain that unsubscribing from a freaking A newsletter is too technical ? I once knew of a chief of

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Amanda
Barry A. Warsaw wrote: I once knew of a chief of a very large medical informatics research organization that never learned how to use a mouse. Mouse? What's a mouse? We don't need no stinkin' mouse! You know, on the flip side of that coin, when I was working (specifically) as a QA, a bug

[Mailman-Users] Downloading MailMan

2001-06-13 Thread Lars T. Soeftestad
One has to begin somewhere, in my case with downloading MailMan. Can't figure out how to download these files. Tar-files appears to be different than other files I've worked with. I guess the information is available on various pages, but I simply can't figure it out. Would someone pls

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:33 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: A tools, etc., complain that unsubscribing from a freaking A newsletter is too technical ? I once knew of a chief of a very large medical informatics research organization that never learned how to use a mouse. It's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Downloading MailMan

2001-06-13 Thread Amanda
Hi Lars, Looks like you're using Outlook Express, which is a Windows thing... which may or may not be relevant, but leads me to the first possible question: do you have Unix, Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, or some variant thereof installed wherever you're trying to install Mailman? If not, you will

[Mailman-Users] Mailman List move?

2001-06-13 Thread Scott Comboni
Hello all, New to the list but have been running Mailman for over a year. Anyway I'm in the process of installing a new box and I have a slightly different mailman structure. Old /usr/share/mailman and the new install has created /usr/lib/mailman and /var/mailman were the lists are located. Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Mel
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: Can I program a boot rom? nope. Can you? A virtual memory implementation? Why do some of us make the assumption that because someone is trained, technical or smart (choose whichever term you prefer) that this somehow endows them with the magical ability to use a

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Darn good reality checks Chuq, thanks. :) CVR == Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CVR What can be done to clean up mailman's rough edges and make CVR it easier ot use, especially by the end-user who's not a CVR techie? where is the documentation weak? or missing? Where

[Mailman-Users] Allowing users to join without specifying passwords

2001-06-13 Thread Joel Votaw
Hello, I recently inherited a Mailman server and have unfortunately never used the tool before. I have a question about administering the server that I can't find the answer to online or in the documentation, and was wondering if someone on this list could give me some insight. I need

[Mailman-Users] Can You Delete A Message From an Archive?

2001-06-13 Thread Jim_Fannin
We have a unique circumstance in which a mail message was posted, approved and sent to a list which turned out to have erroneous information in it. Management would like to remove the message from the archive which is public. Anyone know how to do this without killing the archive? Any help would

[Mailman-Users] Sending without implicit approval

2001-06-13 Thread Martin Foster
I am trying to migrate from Majordomo 1.9.x which has serious problems specially in regards to sending out mail to 500+ individuals at a time. The only disadvantage I can find to GNU Mailman is the simple fact that I can't seem to create a base list of people and have all lists draw from that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Allowing users to join without specifyingpasswords

2001-06-13 Thread Satya
On Jun 13, 2001 at 16:52, Joel Votaw wrote: I need to allow people to join and use the lists without specifying a password at all. I've dug through the docs including with the distribution, archives of this mailing list, and a number of Google searches and can't turn up the answer (however I've

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

2001-06-13 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wednesday 13 June 2001 09:53 am, JC Dill wrote: On 04:38 AM 6/13/01, Ed Wilts wrote: On Wednesday 13 June 2001 02:25 am, Enriko Groen wrote: And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't know how to leave the list. All they have to do is to display the

[Mailman-Users] strange problem with rebuilding archives, mailman thinks it's in adifferent directory

2001-06-13 Thread arif
I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I'm getting this error when using arch to rebuild an archive, what's odd is the line that seems to be looking for an archive mbox in /usr/share, even though mailman is configured and installed in /var/mailman. Here's the error message from the arch