Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Tass
SCSI alas is not an option (which is where I think the bottleneck is). It is an 80GB IBM EIDE hardrive with UDMA66 Celeron 500 686class 512M Ram I have about 80% disk cap still open On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Jon Carnes wrote: Could you give us a description of the hardware your server runs on?

[Mailman-Users] Hello, and a couple of questions

2001-12-05 Thread Martin Skjoldebrand
Hi, I just installed Mailman on an elderly Pentium box (P200, 64 MB RAM, Red Hat 7.1) on which we plan to start running a few informational newsletters (~3x400 subs). Now, we're going to introduce Mailman to our potential listadmins, does anyone know if there is a/ a step-by-step instruction

[Mailman-Users] Weird Behavior

2001-12-05 Thread Gedaliah Wolosh
I recently upgraded mailman from 2.0.2 to 2.0.8. I performed the upgrade by sucessively patching the source and running make install. I checked a few lists and all looked well. One of my large lists which is set up as an announce-only lost all of its privacy cusotmizations. Password reminders

RE: [Mailman-Users] Change digest mailing time

2001-12-05 Thread Camille K. Powell
Does anyone know an online resource that discusses how to make modifications to Mailman field tags? I want to change the text of some of the Mailman fields. Thank you. Camille -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Greg Ward
On 04 December 2001, Tass Chapman said: Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the remove_members tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find the email in the config.db, but I am not sure of the syntax and am rather loathe to just delete at will. Aieee!! Don't do this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:28:53 -0500 (EST) tass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCSI alas is not an option (which is where I think the bottleneck is). It is an 80GB IBM EIDE hardrive with UDMA66 Celeron 500 686class 512M Ram Its a little difficult to say much without knowing how much list traffic

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Tass
My issue is not with its sending speed (in fact it still nice and fast) but with sheer management issues. It is a 10K+ list that is for outgoing announcements.. 1-4 week of about 4K... DNS and MTA are non issues.. I have my own name servers and a heavily customized PostFix as well as softupdate

[Mailman-Users] certain queues hanging in qfiles dir...

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Idalski
I'm running mailman 2.0.6, with sendmail, on a freebsd 4.3 box. And everything seems to be working almost perfectly, however every so often a random queue file will just sit in /home/mailman/qfiles. The other queues will be processed around it, but that one will just stay. It's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:29:11 -0500 (EST) tass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my issues are just with trying to do member operation ... it would nice if you could split it up into smaller sets or have some direct edit tool that may be faster than remover_members seems to be. Aye, that's an area

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 12/5/01 10:29 AM, Tass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my issues are just with trying to do member operation .. How long does it take to add/delete an individual member? FWIW, in my experience, the delay isn't mailman. It's disk I/O. Almost all of the time spent in this operation is in Disk I/O.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Jon Carnes
Let's not solve the wrong problem here. The problem as stated is that it takes too long to edit the config.db file. So long in fact, that it can no longer be done via the web interface. Contributing factors to this are the size of the list, hence the size of the database, the disk subsystem the

Re: [Mailman-Users] certain queues hanging in qfiles dir...

2001-12-05 Thread Jon Carnes
There is a problem with certain headers that is corrected in v2.07 of Mailman (which is now at v2.08). For now, try to delete (or move to a temp directory) the next message in that queue waiting to be processed (take a good guess). Later, when you have time, upgrade to version 2.08 Jon Carnes

[Mailman-Users] check-perms-error: ImportError: No module named paths

2001-12-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hey ho, I've a strange error in bin/check_perms after ./configurue --with-mail-gid=8 --with-cgi-gid=www-data make install bin/check_perms: Could not import paths! This probably means that you are trying to run check_perms from the source directory. You must run this from the installation

Re: [Mailman-Users] check-perms-error: ImportError: No module named paths

2001-12-05 Thread Jon Carnes
Do you have the file: bin/paths.py: === # This file becomes paths.py which is installed in may directories. By # importing this module, sys.path gets `hacked' so that the $prefix/Mailman # directory is inserted at the start of that list. That directory really # contains the Mailman modules in

Re: [Mailman-Users] check-perms-error: ImportError: No module named paths

2001-12-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 02:01:32PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: Do you have the file: bin/paths.py: [...] sys.path.insert(0, prefix) === If so, is the prefix setup properly? Are the rights setup properly? -rw-r--r--1 mailman mailman 1531 Jan 9 2001 paths.py -rw-r--r--1

RE: [Mailman-Users] certain queues hanging in qfiles dir...

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Idalski
I may have jumped the gun on this. The files in question are staying in queue, but I'm getting reports from some of the subscribers that they are being recieved multiple times, even though the file stil resides in the qfiles dir, as if it hasn't been processed. This may be a seperate issue that

Re: [Mailman-Users] check-perms-error: ImportError: No module named paths

2001-12-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 09:15:45PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote: Everythings like you wrote ;( Ok, sorry. The problem was silly: I didn't run the check_perms-script from $prefix-directory ;) Bye Jonas -- Pinky: What are we going to do tonight, Brain? Brain: The same thing we do every night,

[Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread Mark Lehrer
Does mailman have a feature where users can reply to messages, or start new threads, with a CGI form in the pipermail archives? A useful companion feature would be the ability to have subscribers who don't actually receive a copy of the mailing list traffic. Thanks, Mark

[Mailman-Users] returned mails....

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Idalski
Should returned and undeliverable mail that gets sent back to my list server show back up in /home/mailman/qfiles? I'm getting the occasional burstof returned mail, and it's filling up my queue. Is this what's supposed to be happening, after migrating over to a new lists server I know I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:48:48 -0700 Mark Lehrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does mailman have a feature where users can reply to messages, or start new threads, with a CGI form in the pipermail archives? No. I've implemented this externally however via MhonArc and PHP. See the list archives or

[Mailman-Users] Read-only (closed), mailinglist with auto-reject

2001-12-05 Thread C:SAR Computers
Is there a way to make a *closed* mailinglist with mailman? When I set my emailaddress in "posters"; set "Restrict posting privilege to list members? (member_posting_only)" to NO and set "Must posts be approved by an administrator?" to NO, I don't get anymore messages from members,

[Mailman-Users] MM FAQ/Sendmail question...

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Idalski
Q. I'm getting really terrible performance for outgoing messages. It seems that if the MTA has trouble resolving DNS for any recipients, qrunner just gets really slow clearing the queue. Any ideas? A. What's likely happening is that your MTA is doing DNS resolution on recipients for messages

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM FAQ/Sendmail question...

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:16:27 -0500 Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q. I'm getting really terrible performance for outgoing messages. I've wrapped a FAQ item about this at: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.011.htp -- J C Lawrence

[Mailman-Users] Read-only (closed) mailinglist

2001-12-05 Thread RentOne.nl \(K.A. Pronk\)
Is there a way to make a *closed* mailinglist with mailman? When I set my emailaddress in "posters"; set "Restrict posting privilege to list members? (member_posting_only)" to NO and set "Must posts be approved by an administrator?" to NO, I don't get anymore messages from members, having

[Mailman-Users] question about Mailman

2001-12-05 Thread George Blazer
Could you please tell me ? does Mailman work for Win 2000? Thanks much = Sincerely, George Blazer E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

[Mailman-Users] error message from Mailman

2001-12-05 Thread Konrad-Online
Hello, we have Mailman in use an we have a problem. We have added about 15.000 members in a list and wenn we try to add another member, we receive a error message. Is there a max. number of members in a list or counld this be a problem of our webserver? It would be really nice if you could help

Re: [Mailman-Users] smrsh error

2001-12-05 Thread Dr. Bernd Zimmermann
I have a similar problem with smrsh: When I disable smrsh in sendmail all works fine, but wiht smrsh I got a local configuration error mail from sendmail. In sendmail.mc smrsh is activated: FEATURE(smrsh, `/usr/lib/sm.bin/smrsh')dnl In /usr/lib/sm.bin/smrsh the link to wrapper is created like

Re: [Mailman-Users] Read-only (closed), mailinglist with auto-reject

2001-12-05 Thread Jon Carnes
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.012.htp On Wednesday 05 December 2001 19:12, C:SAR Computers wrote: Is there a way to make a *closed* mailinglist with mailman? When I set my emailaddress in posters; set Restrict posting privilege to list members?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Greg == Greg Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg On 04 December 2001, Tass Chapman said: Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the remove_members tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find the email in the config.db, but I am not sure of the syntax and

RE: [Mailman-Users] smrsh error

2001-12-05 Thread Lynn, Michael (DCS)
In /etc/mail/sendmail.mc you should have: FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl #(your smrsh may be installed in another dir) This feature enables sendmail to use sendmail restricted shell. Sendmail simply references the FEATURE value when attempting to execute programs in the aliases.

[Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was going to implement this, and I still may in the future. What I did was to make the link at the top of the message (ReplyTo) be a real reply-to, with the subject and message ID embedded into the link. This works as long as the user has a mail client on their system installed and linked

Re: [Mailman-Users] question about Mailman

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:29:23 -0800 (PST) George Blazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please tell me ? does Mailman work for Win 2000? Not currently, and no current plans or interest in that direction. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my

Re: [Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 23:43:24 -0500 bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works as long as the user has a mail client on their system installed and linked through their browser. This probably accounts for 50% of the users. Not perfect, but at least something. ObNote: While useful,

Re: [Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
J C Lawrence wrote: ObNote: While useful, this make quoting the original message rather difficult. That is true. The whole deal of being able to quote the original message is a bit messy. Do you make a form on the bottom of each and every message, with a text box pre-loaded with the

Re: [Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 01:24:00 -0500 bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J C Lawrence wrote: ObNote: While useful, this make quoting the original message rather difficult. That is true. The whole deal of being able to quote the original message is a bit messy. Do you make a form on the

Re: [Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi JC, Yeah, that's not bad! Only thing is you are depending on php to do the work for you... Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, because I would suppose most people have that running on their Apache. Bob -- Mailman-Users maillist -

Re: [Mailman-Users] online cgi posting

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 02:37:53 -0500 bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that's not bad! Thanks. Only thing is you are depending on php to do the work for you... PHP in this case does a lot of the heavy lifting for me. MHonArc merely devolves messages into files consisting of PHP