Re: [Mailman-Users] gating to newsgroup

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Siglin wrote: >where do I check for this? /usr/lib/mailman/cron or does this actually go >into like /etc/cron.daily? Assuming /usr/lib/mailman is your installation directory, /usr/lib/mailman/cron has the actual scripts and a crontab.in which is meant as the default to install. Dependin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Resetting usenet watermark?

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >You can use bin/withlist to manipulate the list attribute >usenet_watermark. Set it to a number 1 less than the number of the >first article you want from the news server or to None if you just >want to 'catch up' without retrieving articles or to 0 if you

Re: [Mailman-Users] gating to newsgroup

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Siglin wrote: >Is there any special settings to recieve mail into the list from a newsgroup? >I can get my post to my list to goto a newsgroup but have not seen it come to >the list when I post on the newsgroup. You need to set gateway_to_mail to Yes on the admin->Mail<->News gateways p

[Mailman-Users] gating to newsgroup

2006-03-03 Thread Patrick Siglin
Is there any special settings to recieve mail into the list from a newsgroup? I can get my post to my list to goto a newsgroup but have not seen it come to the list when I post on the newsgroup. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing li

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-03 Thread Dave Crocker
> You understand that and I understand that, but I don't think it's easy > to grasp from the pages whose URLs you posted. What _is_ easy to grasp > is that bulk emailers who have been getting a certain level of QoS for > free are now being asked to pay for it, and they're upset. Stinks of > "spec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >At 7:40 PM -0500 2006-03-03, Karl Zander wrote: > >> So I have to figure out how to change those date formats. >> Anyone know of scripts/tools to manipulate these date >> formats? > > See FAQ 3.36. The method in the FAQ is much more complete than the following, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:40 PM -0500 2006-03-03, Karl Zander wrote: > So I have to figure out how to change those date formats. > Anyone know of scripts/tools to manipulate these date > formats? See FAQ 3.36. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Karl Zander
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:16:31 -0800 Greg Lindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:48:43PM -0500, Karl Zander >wrote: > >> New messages sent to the list get appended to the end of >> the mbox file OK and do display in the archive. > > Compare the "From " lines (not From:).

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Karl Zander wrote: > >I will have to look carefully at that mbox format. There >are definately messages in it. Thunderbird reads it OK, >but maybe Thunderbird is more forgiving of mbox >formatting. The messages orginated in Lyris ListManger. > They have a script to export to mbox format. > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:48:43PM -0500, Karl Zander wrote: > New messages sent to the list get appended to the end of > the mbox file OK and do display in the archive. Compare the "From " lines (not From:). I had to fiddle with them with some of my archives a few years ago when I moved a list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Glenn Sieb
Karl Zander said the following on 3/3/2006 6:48 PM: > I will have to look carefully at that mbox format. There > are definately messages in it. Thunderbird reads it OK, > but maybe Thunderbird is more forgiving of mbox > formatting. The messages orginated in Lyris ListManger. > They have a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Karl Zander
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:39:35 -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karl Zander wrote: >> >>We have messages in mbox format that we want to import. >> >>As per 5.1 from the FAQ, we used >> >> bin/arch >>archives/private/.mbox/.mbox >> >>where is our list name. We did create the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix + Virtual Domains + MySQL + Mailman

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Adam Mattina wrote: > >/etc/postfix/main.cf > >--- > >myhostname = excellence.ritphipsi.org >mydomain = ritphipsi.org > >virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf, >hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman > >owner_request_special = no And do you also have something l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect all -bounce emails

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Wayne Ribbens quotes me: > >The first, which will address the bounce issue for all mail, is the >following code at the beginning of the process() function in >Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py > ># Calculate the non-VERP envelope sender. >envsender = msgdata.get('envsender') >if envsend

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect all -bounce emails

2006-03-03 Thread Wayne Ribbens
I put in envsender = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' where the address was a valid address and nothing changes. Do I have to do anything besides modify SMTPDirect.py to make this work? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Karl Zander wrote: > >We have messages in mbox format that we want to import. > >As per 5.1 from the FAQ, we used > > bin/arch archives/private/.mbox/.mbox > >where is our list name. We did create the list >before attempting to import. > > >Running arch gives this, > >Pickling archive state i

Re: [Mailman-Users] issues with signatures

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dirk Völlger wrote: > >I want to insert ASCII-Art like to be seen here: >The problem is, that < is always transformed to < so it becomes: See . -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Franc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Log analysis

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Glenn Sieb wrote: > >for Newsyslog I do something like this And for logrotate, you need something like postrotate /var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl reopen >/dev/null 2>&1 || true endscript in the block for the Mailman logs. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large site mailman config

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
George Barnett wrote: > >We have the following relevant options set: > >QRUNNERS = [ > ('ArchRunner', 4), # messages for the archiver > ('BounceRunner', 2), # for processing the qfile/bounces directory > ('CommandRunner', 1), # commands and bounces from the outside world > ('

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:08 AM -0800 2006-03-03, Harold Paulson wrote: > ...for your resume first, and was suggesting a solution I thought was > both useful, and more...correct. You were saying that a non-existant magic mechanism should be used for the MTA to know exactly how the MLM would react to a giv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Glenn Sieb
Karl Zander wrote: > Hello, > > Using mm 2.1.7 with the patches for htdig and MHonArc > applied. > > We have messages in mbox format that we want to import. > > As per 5.1 from the FAQ, we used > > bin/arch archives/private/.mbox/.mbox > > where is our list name. We did create the list > bef

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:46:28AM -0500, Jonathan Dill wrote: > For the sender, there is a very simple solution to "whitelist" his or > her own e-mail addresses which I have used myself: subscribe the other > e-mail address then set "Mail delivery" to "Disabled." Or the admin can add these ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing doesn't work

2006-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andre Tann wrote: > >> Since you already have enabled full personalization for the list, >> you can at no extra cost set >> >> VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES =3D Yes >> >> in mm_cfg.py to enhance bounce recognition. > >I have already thought about this. But I was not sure if this might >be a problem

[Mailman-Users] Importing Archives Not Working

2006-03-03 Thread Karl Zander
Hello, Using mm 2.1.7 with the patches for htdig and MHonArc applied. We have messages in mbox format that we want to import. As per 5.1 from the FAQ, we used bin/arch archives/private/.mbox/.mbox where is our list name. We did create the list before attempting to import. Running arc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Harold Paulson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brad, > I've been specializing in Internet e-mail for over a decade, I was > the comp.mail.sendmail FAQ maintainer for years, I was heavily > involved in the postfix community from back when it was still being > called VMailer, and I have

[Mailman-Users] Postfix + Virtual Domains + MySQL + Mailman

2006-03-03 Thread Adam Mattina
Hello, I am having trouble getting mail delivered to my lists. Setup Server name (for instance) is host.domain.com which will be hosting two virtual domains. There will be no local user accounts other than root and some other users that won't need mail (ftp user, etc). Therefore all accou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Change Mailman Server IP Address

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:47 AM -0300 2006-03-03, Eduardo Scricco wrote: > I need to change my Mailman server IP address. What changes should be > made, besides changing DNS entries? If the IP address is the only thing changing, and the DNS will remain the same, then there shouldn't be anything you need t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Copying List from Lyris to Mailman

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:02 PM +0100 2006-03-03, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 2:28 PM + 2006-03-03, nico osagie wrote: > >> We are switching from Lyris to Mailman, but we stucked with >> moving/copying/exporting 200 lists from lyris list server to mailman. > > There's actually not anything in the FAQ Wizar

[Mailman-Users] Change Mailman Server IP Address

2006-03-03 Thread Eduardo Scricco
Hello all, I need to change my Mailman server IP address. What changes should be made, besides changing DNS entries? Thanks! Eduardo -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Copying List from Lyris to Mailman

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:28 PM + 2006-03-03, nico osagie wrote: > We are switching from Lyris to Mailman, but we stucked with > moving/copying/exporting 200 lists from lyris list server to mailman. There's actually not anything in the FAQ Wizard about this, at least not yet. However, searching the ar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:47 AM -0300 2006-03-03, Oliver Schulze L. wrote: > It would be nice to have this feature: > - if an email is marked as spam using "Spam Filter" in mailman, > differ the email and: 1) do not sent the body of the email to > the list owner, 2) do not reply to the sender > > Meaby this is a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large site mailman config

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:13 PM + 2006-03-03, George Barnett wrote: > The processes dont seem to be failing. New list mail is delivered fine, > but what's 'stuck' in the queue doesn't leave until a restart which > effectively does a queue run. Ahh. Because Mailman uses the filesystem as a queueing m

[Mailman-Users] Copying List from Lyris to Mailman

2006-03-03 Thread nico osagie
Hi Guys, We are switching from Lyris to Mailman, but we stucked with moving/copying/exporting 200 lists from lyris list server to mailman. Any help will highly appreciated. Mailman ver 2.1.7 Lyris Ver 5 Kind regds Nick -- Mailman-

[Mailman-Users] issues with signatures

2006-03-03 Thread Dirk Völlger
Hello, I just successfully set up mailman 2.1.7 on a Debian Sarge Server which works very fine so far. I only have some problems with Signatures, i know that its not a big problem, but i liked it to be resolved. I want to insert ASCII-Art like to be seen here: __o _`\<,_ (*)/_(*) The p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Log analysis

2006-03-03 Thread Glenn Sieb
Roger Favero said the following on 3/3/2006 8:57 AM: > thanks a lot for you answer. I downloaded the script and, after a few > modification for customisation reason, it runs very well. But now I have > a problem: I found out that my mailman post log is stop to the begin of > february and I don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Log analysis

2006-03-03 Thread Roger Favero
Mark Sapiro ha scritto: >It's Mailman patch 1123383 at >. > >It's also referenced in the FAQ at >. > >And, since 2.1.7 it is in the contr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Oliver Schulze L.
It would be nice to have this feature: - if an email is marked as spam using "Spam Filter" in mailman, differ the email and: 1) do not sent the body of the email to the list owner, 2) do not reply to the sender Meaby this is a big feature request, but mailman does not play very well with spam/viru

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large site mailman config

2006-03-03 Thread George Barnett
Brad Knowles wrote: > What do you mean by "wedge"? Which process(es) is/are failing or > getting "wedged"? The processes dont seem to be failing. New list mail is delivered fine, but what's 'stuck' in the queue doesn't leave until a restart which effectively does a queue run. > For the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:26 PM +0100 2006-03-03, Brad Knowles wrote: >> I think the right solution is to reject junk, instead of accept-and-bounce. >> I think accept-and-bounce is a blight on the internet, that lowers the >> quality and reputation of email. I think it is a waste of resources. > > Fine.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large site mailman config

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:31 AM + 2006-03-03, George Barnett wrote: > Could somebody please send me a config for a large mailman site? In my experience, these kinds of things need to be developed specifically for a given site. SourceForge and lists.apple.com may both be exceptionally large Mailman si

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Jonathan Dill
Harold Paulson wrote: > away. All of the normal posts would go right through. Members who > send from the wrong account would get the usual Mailman notice. > Occasionally wrong-account-posters would have to wait a long time on > their notice. > For the sender, there is a very simple sol

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:55 PM -0800 2006-03-02, Harold Paulson wrote: >> How could the MTA possibly know that the MLM would choose to reject >> those messages because the sender is not a subscriber? Or that the >> MLM might choose to hold those messages for moderation, because the >> sender is not a subscri

[Mailman-Users] Large site mailman config

2006-03-03 Thread George Barnett
Hi, Could somebody please send me a config for a large mailman site? We're seeing our mailman queue wedge fairly frequently. A simple restart sorts this out, but I'd like to see if there's anything else I can do to prevent this. We have the following relevant options set: QRUNNERS = [ (

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam check and bounced email's body

2006-03-03 Thread Oliver Schulze L.
Sorry about posting my email again. I received an email from the list moderator saying that my email was rejected so I assumed it was rejected. I didn't saw my email until I sended it again to the list :( I should double check next time ;) Regards, Oliver Mark Sapiro wrote: > Oliver Schulze L.wr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam check and bounced email's body

2006-03-03 Thread Oliver Schulze L.
Hi Patrick, seems a nice solution, will give it a try. Cheers, Oliver Patrick Bogen wrote: > If you're using sendmail, I have a solution that I implemented that > seems to work quite well: > > Put together a script (e.g., an init script in /etc/init.d, on Debian) > that will run the following on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam check and bounced email's body

2006-03-03 Thread Oliver Schulze L.
Hi Mark, I understand. The solution I'm looking is to hack the code to not send the body of the differed/rejected email. It would be nice to hace and option for this, since anti-spam software get installed more and more every day. Thanks for your reply, Oliver Mark Sapiro wrote: > Oliver Schulz

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Harold" == Harold Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harold> The problem is that we are making net.messes by Harold> automatically replying to junk. It would be nice to see a Harold> general fix. Well, there isn't one.[1] Take the case in point. Your solution is also a hack