[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix on different hosts?

2006-08-30 Thread Anders Norrbring
Simple question, would it be possible to run mailman on one host, and the Postfix MTA on another host? The reason is that I'm configuring a new in/outgoing server that eventually should take over the old one, the old should keep the web server functionality, so I'd like to split things up. If

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't send messages to list

2006-08-30 Thread Eric Howland
On 8/29/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Howland wrote: I have used both DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' and DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' This just shifts the directory in which the outgoing email is stuck. SMTPDirect leaves them in the out directory Sendmail leaves them in

[Mailman-Users] working on an insanely huge moderation request list

2006-08-30 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, I recently took the administration of an mailinglist over. It was quite a shock to find out that it had over 8000(!) mails waiting in its moderation queue. The problem with this is of course that the webinterface times out before giving anything back and returns a 500 server internal error

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't send messages to list

2006-08-30 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 8/30/06, Eric Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I have another machine that can act as a mail server (and is also running postfix) maybe I could get it to sent the mail. Since I am running DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' Are you sure that the machine in question is configured to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Filters deleted?

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Spyro Polymiadis wrote: maybe the answer to my own question http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1020102group_id=103atid=300103 Can someone confirm if this is the correct fix for my problem? It may or may not be. There were two different causes to this problem. The first is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix on different hosts?

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anders Norrbring wrote: Simple question, would it be possible to run mailman on one host, and the Postfix MTA on another host? The reason is that I'm configuring a new in/outgoing server that eventually should take over the old one, the old should keep the web server functionality, so I'd

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't send messages to list

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: On 8/30/06, Eric Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I have another machine that can act as a mail server (and is also running postfix) maybe I could get it to sent the mail. Since I am running DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' Are you sure that the machine in

Re: [Mailman-Users] working on an insanely huge moderation requestlist

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: On 8/30/06, Attila Kinali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read about discard and that i can just delete everything in the queue. But i'd rather like to go trough the list and be able to aprove some of the held mails. Is there any way i can work on the queue? Another

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't send messages to list

2006-08-30 Thread Eric Howland
On 8/30/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Bogen wrote: On 8/30/06, Eric Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I have another machine that can act as a mail server (and is also running postfix) maybe I could get it to sent the mail. Since I am running DELIVERY_MODULE

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix on different hosts?

2006-08-30 Thread Eric Howland
On 8/30/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anders Norrbring wrote: Simple question, would it be possible to run mailman on one host, and the Postfix MTA on another host? The reason is that I'm configuring a new in/outgoing server that eventually should take over the old one, the old

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix on different hosts?

2006-08-30 Thread Anders Norrbring
Eric Howland skrev: On 8/30/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anders Norrbring wrote: Simple question, would it be possible to run mailman on one host, and the Postfix MTA on another host? The reason is that I'm configuring a new in/outgoing server that eventually should take over

[Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Setup: Debian AMD64 (mix testing/stable), Exim 4.62, Mailman 2.1.8 from source (with patch to allow @listname in allowed posters), multiple installations of Mailman (one instance of MM per virtual domain) In the last 24 hours we've had the same situation occur with two corporate

[Mailman-Users] Server upgrade

2006-08-30 Thread luis . talora
Friends, We have a Fedora Core 2 box, which is our Mailman/Postfix server. A few months ago, after a harddisk crash, I´ve tried to install Fedora Core 3 instead and restore Mailman configuration from the backup. It dind´t work at all. Now, I´ve decided to try it again, with Fedora 5 (or maybe

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to create a list with an approved list of posters? (not answered by FAQ?)

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Elizabeth Schwartz said the following on 2006/08/30 08:12 PM: I see how to allow them to post if they are *not* members of the list , but not if they *are*. We found the following useful for non-members (but members of another list):

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Dragon said the following on 2006/08/30 10:03 PM: Oops... forgot to send my reply to the list too. Sorry about that Bretton, I did not mean for you to receive it twice. Not a problem, and thanks for the reply ;-) However it doesn't solve my problem of determining why a TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Dragon
Bretton Vine sent the message below at 14:22 8/30/2006: Dragon said the following on 2006/08/30 10:03 PM: Oops... forgot to send my reply to the list too. Sorry about that Bretton, I did not mean for you to receive it twice. Not a problem, and thanks for the reply ;-) However it doesn't solve

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:22 PM +0200 2006-08-30, Bretton Vine wrote: (no criticism intended to developers, but I have to ask:) Was this requested by users; were users involved in this decision; or was it a case of developers deciding for users what they thought was best given the environment of email/lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] working on an insanely huge moderation request list

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:37 PM +0200 2006-08-30, Attila Kinali wrote: I've read about discard and that i can just delete everything in the queue. But i'd rather like to go trough the list and be able to aprove some of the held mails. Is there any way i can work on the queue? Another possibility would be if

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:12 PM +0200 2006-08-30, Bretton Vine wrote: Now when I test the following I /don't/ get the error. TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which brings to mind an obvious possibility, but this being what it is that isn't one that can be entertained. (heads must roll!

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bretton Vine wrote: I repeat, no criticism intended, I just need to be able to give a complete answer and am anticipating the questions I'll be asked. :-) I think most of what I'm going to say here has been said by Dragon and Brad already, but just for emphasis... The major reason for

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Dragon said the following on 2006/08/31 12:24 AM: I just tested this on one of my lists. I sent an e-mail with the To: set to one of my other e-mail addresses and the CC: set to my list address. snip It worked as advertised when I had it enabled. I can confirm my own testing duplicates this.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Filters deleted?

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Spyro Polymiadis wrote: I ended up grabbing the 2.1.8 Privacy.py file and it seems to have fixed the problem.. Good. Mark out of interest, that last link you provided me with gave me a: An Exception Has Occurred The root mailman is unknown. If you believe the value is

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination (devils advocate!)

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Brad Knowles said the following on 2006/08/31 12:09 AM: snip useful comments We prefer to have this option default to on, because it is safer that way, and people can always choose to set their choice to be more permissive. (locally) it's been referred to as a be strict in what you send,

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/08/31 01:22 AM: Whatever is chosen as the Defaults.py value for any particular list setting, some will wish it had been the other way. It is simply not possible to create out of the box defaults that will satisfy everyone. That is why a site can change

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bretton Vine wrote: Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/08/31 01:22 AM: Thus of your 3 examples above, if 'list' is the list posting address that Mailman expects to see, only the 3rd example will be held for implicit destination because in this and only this case, Mailman doesn't see the

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:21 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote: As I said above, this should never have happened as far as I can tell. I'm sure one of the developers with more knowledge about this will correct me if I am wrong. I'm hoping for more information so I can prepare a summary of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination (devils advocate!)

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:07 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote: (locally) it's been referred to as a be strict in what you send, relaxed in what you receive approach but not everyone adheres to (or is aware of) this way of looking at things and it seems antiquated to some. It's called the Postel

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:22 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote: Aaaah, but that's the crux of the situation. I have read the documentation. I have searched the FAQs. I have asked the list and I keep getting the same answer: there is no obvious reason a {TO:listname,CC:thirdparty} post should result in

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Brad Knowles said the following on 2006/08/31 02:37 AM: So, does my opinion count? Of course it does. Credentials are useful, experience more so. Heck next week we have a whole bunch of experts here to give opinions to the industry (shameless plug for iweek) The person in question wouldn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Larry Stone
On 8/30/06 8:07 PM, Brad Knowles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:22 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote: Aaaah, but that's the crux of the situation. I have read the documentation. I have searched the FAQs. I have asked the list and I keep getting the same answer: there is no

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination

2006-08-30 Thread Bretton Vine
Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/08/31 02:55 AM: It drove me crazy, because I knew there was a real explaination for every glitch, and I wanted to find it, but I think the 'poltergeist' explaination worked for many of the users. Yeah, the radial flux in the atmospheric pressure excuse

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination (devils advocate!)

2006-08-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:56 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote: So far my experience has been wonderful with the product, good and bad with the documentation, and rather difficult in terms of user-error, namely mine. I am of the opinion that all software sucks, but some sucks less than others. IMO,