Re: [Mailman-Users] Config_list doesn't copy the "Public HTML Pages"

At 2:30 PM +0900 2006-09-06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. Is there some way to get config_list to do this? > > > > Not that I know of, at least not without making source-code level > > changes to the tool. > > This really ought to be fixed. I don't know if the templates are even > s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config_list doesn't copy the "Public HTML Pages"

Brad Knowles writes: > So far as I know, the config_list tool only captures those items > which are stored in the Python pickle which contains what Mailman > thinks of as the list configuration items. Kinda miserly of it, isn't it? > > 1. Is there some way to get config_list to do this?

[Mailman-Users] Mailman/Qmail/Plesk Problem

OK, I've got another problem with Qmail/Plesk/Mailman (same customer, rebuilt server). Plesk is 7.5.4 reloaded. Mail delivered fails with "need GID 110 got 101" error. I set up the brute-force wrapper to deliver with GID 110, and set the permissions correctly for it to work. Now, I'm get

[Mailman-Users] mailing list does not work

I have around 50 mailing lists on the xserve (running mailman)..all are working except one. check_perms -f had been done log files do not show anything sgnificant...no failures were shown, but the list (non-working one) just does not relay email to its members. Any idea? --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config_list doesn't copy the "Public HTML Pages"

Brad Knowles sent the message below at 15:07 9/5/2006: >At 5:41 PM -0400 2006-09-05, Ken Winter wrote: > > > 3. If not, is there some easier way to do it than opening the "source" and > > "target" lists in the administrator web sites and cutting-and-pasting the > > HTML from one to the other? >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config_list doesn't copy the "Public HTML Pages"

At 5:41 PM -0400 2006-09-05, Ken Winter wrote: > The config_list utility doesn't include the "public HTML pages" (most > importantly for me, the "General List Information Page") as part of the > configuration that it copies from one list to another. Since I have > drastically customized my Li

[Mailman-Users] Firefox password issue (was: Re: Hijacking threads and netiquette ... )

At 4:17 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > Now *that* really pissed me off. The page linked from the "help" > button on the FAQ edit page says "What is the password? The webmaster > will tell you the password if you ask nicely." Right. In private e-mail, not on a public forum.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages

At 4:20 PM -0500 2006-09-05, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Does the VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes only works on certain version of > Mailman? We have Mailman version 2.1.1-5, Python 3.0.4-0.1, and Qmail > (1.03-rhel3) and have set the setting as suggested; but we are still getting > the generic

Re: [Mailman-Users] Firefox password issue (was: Re: Hijacking threads and netiquette ... )

On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 3:56 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > > Thanks to everybody for their assistance working out what was going on > > here. I apologize for the heat I contributed to the discussion (while > > pleading in extenuation that I wa

[Mailman-Users] Config_list doesn't copy the "Public HTML Pages"

The config_list utility doesn't include the "public HTML pages" (most importantly for me, the "General List Information Page") as part of the configuration that it copies from one list to another. Since I have drastically customized my List Info Page, this rather impedes cloning my lists. So,

[Mailman-Users] Firefox password issue (was: Re: Hijacking threads and netiquette ... )

At 3:56 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > Thanks to everybody for their assistance working out what was going on > here. I apologize for the heat I contributed to the discussion (while > pleading in extenuation that I was provoked). There was certainly a communications breakdown

[Mailman-Users] Firefox password issue (was: Re: Hijacking threads and netiquette ... )

At 4:03 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > Given that Firefox was picking up the password, but was NOT offering > it back on later visits, I'll accept the argument that the basic > problem is really in Firefox. Apparently so do they, and they've > fixed it in an upcoming release,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > If you want to take a rules-lawyer approach and use it to resist any > suggestion of change, be my guest. So far as I know, what's at > issue here is the question of interoperability in an area where > there are no formal st

[Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages

Hi, Does the VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes only works on certain version of Mailman? We have Mailman version 2.1.1-5, Python 3.0.4-0.1, and Qmail (1.03-rhel3) and have set the setting as suggested; but we are still getting the generic subject line for list subscription confirmation email. Thanks, Jimmy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wrote what would have been 3.67, only to then be told that it wasn't > > actually open to anybody to post after all; so to keep that work from > > going to waste I post it here, and propose it be included (or improved > > and then includ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > It's an issue in the interaction of browsers and Mailman. It could > > almost certainly be fixed by either side. If you want to start a > > finger-pointing conte

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is definitely a firefox bug, AFAIAK. If Firefox is smart enough > to offer to save the password, then it needs to be smart enough to > fill it back in on return to the same page. Unless someone in the > firefox camp can show that the sp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

David Dyer-Bennet sent the message below at 12:58 9/5/2006: >I find I have mis-described the problem; Firefox *does* recognize the >password and save it, I can see it in the list of saved passwords. >What it doesn't do is *offer it back* when I return to the page. Same >net result, I have to look

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > It's an issue in the interaction of browsers and Mailman. It could > almost certainly be fixed by either side. If you want to start a > finger-pointing contest and say "not my problem" that's your > privilege of course, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

At 2:58 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > Same Firefox version I have. Mailman 2.1.6, though (Dreamhost.com's > installation, not under my control). Ahh. In which case, you should also see FAQ 1.32, and be aware that Dreamhost.com may well have made some localized modifications

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

At 2:23 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > While I agree it's not a wonderful search term by virtue of being > relevant to a lot of different FAQs, it's the one people will be > looking for in this case; the problem is that their browser doesn't > offer to remember their password.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > On 9/5/06, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If firefox has profiles, they're not in the menu and not in the help > (under that name). I don't know the various ways to change the profiles in firefox, but running th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:23:42 -0500 > "David Dyer-Bennet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My problem, as I have said from the beginning, is that browsers > > (specifically Firefox, though I note the same problem reported > > against Safari in feature re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:23:42 -0500 "David Dyer-Bennet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My problem, as I have said from the beginning, is that browsers > (specifically Firefox, though I note the same problem reported > against Safari in feature request 966157) do not recognize the > password field on t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > I'm not convinced there's anything about this in the FAQ. > > > > 4.65 is not about the issue I'm raising; that's about cookie issues, > > whereas my case is that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 1:14 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > >> Did you search for "reauthentication"? Or "saving my changes"? > > > > No; I searched for "password" and "firefox", I believe. Obviously > > there were a number of entries mentioni

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette

At 3:00 PM -0400 2006-09-05, Jim Popovitch wrote: > - -Jim P. (/me thinks someone should replace the FAQ wizard with a > wiki... just because it confuses less ;-)) The wiki already exists -- see . However, someone will have to copy all that content over to the wiki, ed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Have you tried using another firefox profile (or from another machine > entirely) to verify that this isn't something specific to your firefox > config/system setup? Alternatively make sure that your Mailman domain isn't listed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > I'm not convinced there's anything about this in the FAQ. > > 4.65 is not about the issue I'm raising; that's about cookie issues, > whereas my case is that the password field isn't recognized in the > first place. I've tes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Firefox password issue (was Re: Hijacking threads and netiquette)

On 9/5/06, Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Dyer-Bennet sent the message below at 09:55 9/5/2006: > > >Why doesn't Firefox (or other browsers, I think I've seen the same > >behavior in Opera) offer me the chance to remember the Administrative > >password for my site? > End

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

At 1:14 PM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: >> Did you search for "reauthentication"? Or "saving my changes"? > > No; I searched for "password" and "firefox", I believe. Obviously > there were a number of entries mentioning passwords, but none about > saving them. Correct, there a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:55 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > > Okay. And I've now checked through > > the Wizard-driven FAQ and also find nothing relevant. > > Did you search for "reauthentication"? Or "savin

[Mailman-Users] Firefox password issue (was Re: Hijacking threads and netiquette)

David Dyer-Bennet sent the message below at 09:55 9/5/2006: >Why doesn't Firefox (or other browsers, I think I've seen the same >behavior in Opera) offer me the chance to remember the Administrative >password for my site? End original message. - It is very sim

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

At 11:55 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > I suppose that could be what happened. Look, I've been participating > on Arpanet and Internet email lists since 1981, but every now and then > the fingers don't quite do it right, and we're all just going to have > to live with that; t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:17 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > >> First off, please don't hijack existing threads and leave the subject > >> line the same. If you have a new topic, please create a new message > >> with a new subject. > > > > Sor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

At 11:17 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: >> First off, please don't hijack existing threads and leave the subject >> line the same. If you have a new topic, please create a new message >> with a new subject. > > Sorry about this ending up attached to the thread. I don't see how

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

David Dyer-Bennet sent the message below at 09:17 9/5/2006: >On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:30 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > > > > At least on Mailman 2.1.6, something about how the page where you > > > enter the administrative password is designe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

On 9/5/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:30 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > > At least on Mailman 2.1.6, something about how the page where you > > enter the administrative password is designed prevents Firefox from > > remembering that password for me. It's

[Mailman-Users] Hijacking threads and netiquette (was: e: Obscure addresses problem)

At 10:30 AM -0500 2006-09-05, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > At least on Mailman 2.1.6, something about how the page where you > enter the administrative password is designed prevents Firefox from > remembering that password for me. It's extremely annoying, I have to > go look that one up in Pass

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting list owner's admin rights

At 3:54 PM +0100 2006-09-05, Robert Bannocks wrote: > Is it possible to restrict the options that list owners can set. To a limited degree, yes. See Defaults.py and FAQ 1.32. > In particular I want to stop list administrator > For all lists from setting up USENET news gateway-ing and stop so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Obscure addresses problem

At 5:56 AM -0700 2006-09-05, Jack Stone wrote: > The knob in the web site configs about changing from YES to NO had > me distracted thinking it was the place to change my setting for > this preference. Yeah, I'm confused too. I'm hoping that one of the core Mailman developers will respond to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Obscure addresses problem

At least on Mailman 2.1.6, something about how the page where you enter the administrative password is designed prevents Firefox from remembering that password for me. It's extremely annoying, I have to go look that one up in Passwordsafe each time I use it, which is nearly daily. Anybody have an

[Mailman-Users] Restricting list owner's admin rights

Is it possible to restrict the options that list owners can set. In particular I want to stop list administrator For all lists from setting up USENET news gateway-ing and stop some but not all list administrators from archiving messages. Regards

Re: [Mailman-Users] Obscure addresses problem

Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:At 7:06 PM -0700 2006-09-04, Jack Stone wrote: > I looked at FAQ 4.4 and the method described there using an external > archiving tool like MHonArc with Mailman methinks is a monster [...] It's not as clean as we would like, no. That is an area we are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Obscure addresses problem

At 7:06 PM -0700 2006-09-04, Jack Stone wrote: > I looked at FAQ 4.4 and the method described there using an external > archiving tool like MHonArc with Mailman methinks is a monster [...] It's not as clean as we would like, no. That is an area we are hoping to improve upon for future release