[Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread adsarebad
Hello all, I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. However when setting up the fist mailman install I have ran into a wall. In mm_cfg.py POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domian.com'] MTA =

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to enable VERP?

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 17 Jun 2008, at 18:47, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] If you want Mailman to VERP all deliveries, just set VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 and don't worry about personalization. Thanks, I ended up with just this one and it works. -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 17 Jun 2008, at 18:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/17/08, Allan Odgaard wrote: I transferred a lot of list members from a previous list. A dozen of these has left errors like the following in `logs/smtp-failures`: delivery to address failed with code 450: 4.1.2

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 17 Jun 2008, at 06:01, Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/17/08, Allan Odgaard wrote: I copied a list's mbox to a new server and regenerated the archive. Unfortunately threading is not rendered satisfyingly, here are the two Mailman/pipermail versions: Your threading got broken somehow, but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 10:04, adsarebad-at-. wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. Have you seen http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py ? It was included

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 02:49, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] Into `/etc/python2.5/sitecustomize.py`. This is despite proper setup of `LC_CTYPE` on the system. Seems to me Mailman should use the encoding of the current locale, not this site-wide Python default encoding (settable by root only). I am aware

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Stefan Förster
* Allan Odgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Jun 2008, at 18:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/17/08, Allan Odgaard wrote: I transferred a lot of list members from a previous list. A dozen of these has left errors like the following in `logs/smtp-failures`:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Odgaard wrote: I don’t think Mailman should use `sys.getdefaultencoding()`. See http://wiki.python.org/moin/DefaultEncoding. I think instead `locale.getdefaultlocale()` should be used for the CLI commands. Since sys.getdefaultencoding() is going away, we'll have to do something ;)

[Mailman-Users] News headers in mails gated from news

2008-06-18 Thread David Hláčik
Hello mailman users, I am using mailman script called from cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news to synchronize mails between our company private only news server (INN) and our company mailing list. When mail is gated from news to mailing list - news: header is not removed, mailing list headers

[Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Dragon
Mark Sapiro mentioned in another post that the web UI is in need of an update/overhaul. I'd like to make one feature request for that which came to light with a bunch of non-technical users on one of my lists. It is not obvious from the list information page how one would obtain a password

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Dragon wrote: Mark Sapiro mentioned in another post that the web UI is in need of an update/overhaul. I'd like to make one feature request for that which came to light with a bunch of non-technical users on one of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 18-Jun-08, at 11:24 AM, Dragon wrote: Mark Sapiro mentioned in another post that the web UI is in need of an update/overhaul. I'd like to make one feature request for that which came to light with a bunch of non-technical users on one of my lists. It is not obvious from the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Odgaard wrote: Raw mbox file. And new letters sent to the list also show up with wrong indent in the web archive. I'm only guessing, but I think there must have been some issue with the mbox file that caused the archive database file to be messed up. Does a new list work OK? What

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
Allan Odgaard wrote: If others should run into this problem `reject_unknown_recipient_domain` was the setting I had to disable in Postfix’s `smtpd_recipient_restrictions`. We run postfix on python.org. This option is not disabled on our machine, because we have a separate copy of postfix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
Allan Odgaard wrote: I don’t think it will verify that the domain is the proper one (for mails sent to each list), but it should be simple to duplicate the service as mailman-list-a, b, c and setup the different ones to be used as transport for the different list domains (via transport_maps

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. However when setting up the fist mailman install I have ran into a wall. In mm_cfg.py POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS =

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Jaco Kroon
Allan Odgaard wrote: On 17 Jun 2008, at 18:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/17/08, Allan Odgaard wrote: I transferred a lot of list members from a previous list. A dozen of these has left errors like the following in `logs/smtp-failures`: delivery to address failed with

[Mailman-Users] Fresh Install Fails To Start

2008-06-18 Thread Carlos Williams
I just installed Mailman 2.1.9 on my new server and I cd /usr/lib/mailman/bin and ran the ./newlist script: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./newlist Enter the name of the list: zoo Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial zoo password: To finish creating your mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:51, Brad Knowles wrote: Allan Odgaard wrote: I don’t think it will verify that the domain is the proper one (for mails sent to each list), but it should be simple to duplicate the service as mailman-list-a, b, c and setup the different ones to be used as transport

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fresh Install Fails To Start

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
Carlos Williams wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# /etc/init.d/mailman start Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman You didn't create the site list, as directed by the documentation. See http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node40.html. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fresh Install Fails To Start

2008-06-18 Thread Dragon
Carlos Williams wrote: Now when I try and start Mailman, I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# /etc/init.d/mailman start Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman [FAILED] End original message.

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:45, Mark Sapiro wrote: Allan Odgaard wrote: Raw mbox file. And new letters sent to the list also show up with wrong indent in the web archive. I'm only guessing, but I think there must have been some issue with the mbox file that caused the archive database file

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:49, Brad Knowles wrote: [...] It is not necessary to recommend to others that they disable this feature on their copy of postfix. Instead, you should be recommending to them exactly what I recommended to you, which was to run a second copy of postfix with all checks

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 16:09, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] The process of adding the list header and/or footer to the message attempts to add these to a text/plain body by coercing the body and the header/footer to unicode, concatenating them and then coercing back to the original body charset. If the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 18-Jun-08, at 4:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. This doesn't answer your questions, but have you considered giving the lists unique names, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] selinux postfix + mailman

2008-06-18 Thread Todd Zullinger
Dony Tata wrote: how to configure selinux on centos 5 , i use postfix and mailman,if selinux set enabled, i have got error in /var/log/mailman/error command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted), if selinux set disabled, it's work fine. But i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:41, Terri Oda wrote: [...] the more user input we get, the better! Another thread said that “the web UI is scheduled for overhaul”. Is anyone assigned to this? Is it an open process? Can we follow it somewhere? I think the admin UI suffers from: 1. Too many

[Mailman-Users] archives generation on new server

2008-06-18 Thread Manuel Goepfert
Hi Everybody, I'm currently moving to a new server my lists. Old version is 2.1.7 new version is 2.1.9 While moving the lists themself is really easy, I have an issue with the archives. It seems that the accents like éèà are not properly handled. The content-type from the headers is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 18-Jun-08, at 1:56 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote: On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:41, Terri Oda wrote: [...] the more user input we get, the better! Another thread said that “the web UI is scheduled for overhaul”. Is anyone assigned to this? Is it an open process? Can we follow it somewhere? The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Cyndi Norwitz
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:24:34 -0700 From: Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not obvious from the list information page how one would obtain a password reminder. You have to click the Unsubscribe or edit options button to get to the page with the password reminder button. This

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
Allan Odgaard wrote: Another thread said that “the web UI is scheduled for overhaul”. Is anyone assigned to this? Is it an open process? Can we follow it somewhere? This is a development issue, and would be discussed on the mailman-developers mailing list. The rest of this thread should

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Odgaard wrote: On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:45, Mark Sapiro wrote: Does a new list work OK? A new list show the same problem. What does bin/cleanarch say about the mbox file? Did bin/arch report anything odd? I don’t recall so. But since this happens both for new letters to this list,

Re: [Mailman-Users] archives generation on new server

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Manuel Goepfert wrote: While moving the lists themself is really easy, I have an issue with the archives. It seems that the accents like éèà are not properly handled. The content-type from the headers is charset=ISO-8859-1 I've tryed to google or look into the FAQ without success so far, if you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. It would be easy to write a little script to edit the tables mailman makes to be right but I don`t know how I would get mailman to call my script instead of (is it postmap?)...? I was looking through the mailman source for a call to postmap but could not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, Just some background about myself and why I lurk on this list: I'm someone that contracts with some ISPs, maintaining various different kind of servers, amongst others a few Mailman servers. I run Mailman with a single self-cooked patch for these folks (patch is for virtual hosting,

[Mailman-Users] Missing Files config.db/config.db.last

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Jung
RE: mailman-2.1.9_5 I have a list crew that is running and functional from the standpoint the list is working. It has a very static list of users that seldom changes. Today it was brought to my attention that the web interface was not working. Upon finding tracebacks in the

[Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Jeff Donsbach
Hi, I recently started having delivery problems with list messages to Hotmail subscribers. The problem seems to have started on or around June 10. I checked the syslog file and was seeing occasional (452 too many recipients for delivery) errors. I changed SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to 5 and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing Files config.db/config.db.last

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Jung wrote: RE: mailman-2.1.9_5 I have a list crew that is running and functional from the standpoint the list is working. It has a very static list of users that seldom changes. Today it was brought to my attention that the web interface was not working. Upon finding tracebacks

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Odgaard wrote: On 18 Jun 2008, at 16:09, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] The process of adding the list header and/or footer to the message attempts to add these to a text/plain body by coercing the body and the header/footer to unicode, concatenating them and then coercing back to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Donsbach wrote: I recently started having delivery problems with list messages to Hotmail subscribers. The problem seems to have started on or around June 10. I checked the syslog file and was seeing occasional (452 too many recipients for delivery) errors. I changed SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to 5

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Jeff Donsbach
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the world of pain and frustration that is dealing with Microsoft and Windows live mail spam filtering - yes, they do accept your mail and then silently discard it. I had the same problem. I hammered and hammered

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Donsbach wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the world of pain and frustration that is dealing with Microsoft and Windows live mail spam filtering - yes, they do accept your mail and then silently discard it. I had the same problem. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] News headers in mails gated from news

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Hláčik wrote: I am using mailman script called from cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news to synchronize mails between our company private only news server (INN) and our company mailing list. When mail is gated from news to mailing list - news: header is not removed, mailing list headers

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 01:33, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] The problem that I had initially and that you are apparently having now is that at some point, they accept your mail and then silently discard it. That hasn't happened to me again since the mitigation period, but I'm never relaxed about

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
On 6/18/08, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: I second this. Subscribers losing their password and asking me to make changes for them is one of my biggest timesinks, outside of moderation. I don't molly-coddle users. If they can't figure out for themselves how to get their password sent to them,

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
On 6/18/08, Mark Sapiro wrote: Welcome to the world of pain and frustration that is dealing with Microsoft and Windows live mail spam filtering - yes, they do accept your mail and then silently discard it. For small non-profit organizations, you can pay a one-time fee to Habeas and/or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing Files config.db/config.db.last

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
On 6/18/08, Michael Jung wrote: Upon finding tracebacks in the mailman/logs/error file I decided to run check_db which reports two missing files for each list. I have no clue how these got deleted. I've started going back through old backup tapes but apparently these have been missing for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 00:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: So should I consider it a bug that setting list encoding to utf-8 will (in my experience) _always_ produce (base 64 encoded) utf-8 letters, when both header/footer and letter itself sent to list is ASCII? You may consider it a bug if you wish. It

[Mailman-Users] How to change following mail header shown by hotmail?

2008-06-18 Thread Bob001
Dear Experts, Can this header be changed? If so, how to do it? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of USER_NAME ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wed 6/18/08 8:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Basically, on behalf of is really confusing and also spam looking.. Also, if there are many ways to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:59, adsarebad-at-. wrote: Have you seen http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py ? [...] I think I may have ran into that file in my travels, can`t remember for sure through because I ran into so many. Is that the one where I need to have

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 22:46, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] I have never before seen a report like this. Since it occurs for a new list, there is apparently something wrong with the Mailman installation itself. If it were a problem with the Ubuntu package, I think it would have been seen elsewhere, so I

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 07:00, Allan Odgaard wrote: On 18 Jun 2008, at 22:46, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] I have never before seen a report like this. Since it occurs for a new list, there is apparently something wrong with the Mailman installation itself. If it were a problem with the Ubuntu

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change following mail header shown by hotmail?

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
On 6/18/08, Bob001 wrote: Basically, on behalf of is really confusing and also spam looking.. Search the Mailman FAQ for microsoft. The first hit will be http://wiki.list.org/x/RoA9. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu