Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the bounce system? You send them to me, but I need

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.9 - Fedora 8 - upgrade

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: on 2/13/09 1:12 PM, Dragos Leahu said: 1. Which is the best way to upgrade Mailman to a newer version (the latest if possible) without taking any risk? All upgrades carry a certain measure of risk. If you want absolute zero risk, then pull the power cord, toss the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.9 - Fedora 8 - upgrade

2009-02-14 Thread Fil
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2004-October/017343.html for more on this. There is a patch attached to that post which is against an older (2.1.5 I think) base which you could probably apply to 2.1.12 and then configure and make to match your existing installation. Could

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.9 - Fedora 8 - upgrade

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fil wrote: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2004-October/017343.html for more on this. There is a patch attached to that post which is against an older (2.1.5 I think) base which you could probably apply to 2.1.12 and then configure and make to match your existing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the bounce system?

Re: [Mailman-Users] external mail server

2009-02-14 Thread Khalil Abbas
I'm sorry .. I forgot to say: per list .. I meant : is there a way to set mailman to make each list on the same server to send using external mail servers?? for example : I have 5 lists, list1,list2,list3,list4,list5, can mailman make: list1 send to mail.external-server1.com list2 send to

Re: [Mailman-Users] external mail server

2009-02-14 Thread Brad Knowles
on 2/14/09 6:11 PM, Khalil Abbas said: I'm sorry .. I forgot to say: per list .. I meant : is there a way to set mailman to make each list on the same server to send using external mail servers?? On a per-list basis? No, not without making source code modifications. On this issue, you get

Re: [Mailman-Users] external mail server

2009-02-14 Thread Khalil Abbas
are you guys gonna be real pals and do this modification to the source code soon? This would be a great addition to mailman's many great features - I hope this sucking up would work :) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:39:02 -0600 From: b...@shub-internet.org To: khillo...@hotmail.com CC:

Re: [Mailman-Users] external mail server

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Khalil Abbas wrote: I'm sorry .. I forgot to say: per list .. I meant : is there a way to set mailman to make each list on the same server to send using external mail servers?? for example : I have 5 lists, list1,list2,list3,list4,list5, can mailman make: list1 send to

Re: [Mailman-Users] external mail server

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Khalil Abbas wrote: are you guys gonna be real pals and do this modification to the source code soon? This would be a great addition to mailman's many great features - I hope this sucking up would work :) It won't work. The only thing that would work is a strong argument that this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grant Taylor wrote: On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Ed's Shop
* Grant Taylor wrote: On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/14/2009 07:04 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: That question hinges on whether or not the bounce should be considered a permanent or a temporary failure. The bounce itself says This is a permanent error. Agreed. However I believe the permanent or temporary nature that the bounce is speaking of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grant Taylor wrote: P.S. I find it interesting that the bounce is eluding to the amount of space remaining in the account. This is (in my experience) extremely unusual. As I read the bounce, it says Sorry, your intended recipient has too much mail stored in his mailbox. Your message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/14/2009 08:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: and I interpret that to mean that even though the user is over quota, the MTA will accept a 1 KB message to allow you to try to notify the user of the problem, not that the user is 1 KB below quota. *nod* Hopefully there is a limit to how far over

[Mailman-Users] Checking installation issues.

2009-02-14 Thread Daniel.Li
Dear Sir, I have met some difficulties when checking installation. I have google the issue, and take necessary measurement that I know, but still got the problem. How can I fix the problem? Any advice and suggestion is welcomed. Thanks in advance. $ bin/check_perms Traceback (most recent call

[Mailman-Users] MMDSR Question

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
I know the mmdsr program is an unsupported application, but I am hoping somebody here can help me out. I have not been able to find any answers via Google or the mailing list archives. I have set up all of the parameters, but the program never finishes running. When I run it from the command

[Mailman-Users] Error Message

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
I have started getting the following error message in my log files. It appears to be when Mailman receives a bounce for a non-member. Feb 13 21:31:25 2009 qrunner(527): Traceback (most recent call last): Feb 13 21:31:25 2009 qrunner(527): File /Applications/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 278,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
Grant Taylor wrote: On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the

Re: [Mailman-Users] MMDSR Question

2009-02-14 Thread Brad Knowles
on 2/14/09 10:49 AM, Jeff Grossman said: I know the mmdsr program is an unsupported application, but I am hoping somebody here can help me out. I'm the original author of mmdsr (now that it's been checked into source control, Mark has been the last person to make any changes to it), but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Brad Knowles
on 2/14/09 7:32 PM, Grant Taylor said: Agreed. However I believe the permanent or temporary nature that the bounce is speaking of is on the SMTP level, thus the sending server should not try to send this given message again. I think it is a flaw to extend this SMTP meaning up to actual