[Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, I am trying to gage the capability of a Mailman virtual machine, which we will be moving our lists to. I'd like to do my best to size and tune this VM, and it's Postfix and Mailman installation, before putting it in production, and potentially having to troubleshoot and tune in a hurry.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ivan Fetch wrote: What is a reasonable / realistic way to benchmark a Mailman installation? Are there details of other similarly sized instlalations and throughput numbers which I can compare? I don't have any data for a comparable size installation. The benchmark test you describe seems

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, THanks Mark, I appreciate this. MOre below: On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: It seems the major hurdle is in processing the 'out' queue. It is possible to slice OutgoingRunner to provide some parallelism in this process and that may speed things up, but I suspect that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/14/2011 1:39 PM, Ivan Fetch wrote: On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: It seems the major hurdle is in processing the 'out' queue. It is possible to slice OutgoingRunner to provide some parallelism in this process and that may speed things up, but I suspect that a lot of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, On Aug 14, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: No. Threaded delivery in SMTPDirect.py was an experimental feature in Mailman 2.0. It was never implemented for Mailman 2.1 although the setting and its documentation were not removed from Defaults.py. Setting this in mm_cfg.py has no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/14/2011 4:25 PM, Ivan Fetch wrote: I noticed that the incoming qrunner was using 10% CPU (according to the pcpu column of ps) even after qfiles/in was empty, and after all 5000 messages were processed. I wonder what the incoming runner is doing - any ideas there? If I am not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Brad Knowles
On 08/14/2011 03:39 PM, Ivan Fetch wrote: There are some MTA tuning tips in the FAQ http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3, but some are only applicable to Mailman 2.0 so be careful. The majority of the MTA tuning tips that I know of should be applicable to most any mailing list manager, since they are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi Brad, On Aug 14, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: The majority of the MTA tuning tips that I know of should be applicable to most any mailing list manager, since they are oriented towards helping the MTA better deal with large amounts of outgoing mail, and optimizing certain types

[Mailman-Users] Are Mailman's files sparse?

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, As part of copying our Mailman data from one box to another, I wanted to verify: are any of Mailman's data files, sparse, E.G the .pck files and other files in the data directory? It looks to me like the answer to this is no. Thanks, Ivan. .