Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo Groups' From munging and X-Original-From

2014-05-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Levine writes: This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show unauthenticated fake From: lines. Not only that, they're doing it themselves. :-(

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo Groups' From munging and X-Original-From

2014-05-26 Thread Mark Rousell
On 26/05/2014 07:24, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: John Levine writes: This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show unauthenticated fake From: lines. Not only that, they're doing it themselves.

[Mailman-Users] [Spam] Re: Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

2014-05-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Levine writes: My understanding is that DMARC WAS going through the standardization process, and actually was to the state where experimental use was justified (and in some sense actually required). ... No, not at all. DMARC was designed and implemented by a small closed group

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

2014-05-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Rousell writes: It seems to me that if a protocol so easily allows (or even effectively encourages) usage that craps on existing legitimate Internet usage then the protocol (and its designers) must be in part to blame. I don't see any real difference between ESP abuse of p=reject

[Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
I am one of the list administrator/moderator for several mailing lists, most of which aren't based on my machine (a few are in another continent), so I am not the site admin for them. In particular three of these are on the same machine, therefore my firefox is able to remember the password

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 02:21:50PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I am one of the list administrator/moderator for several mailing lists, most of which aren't based on my machine (a few are in another continent), so I am not the site admin for them. In particular three of these are on the

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 26 May 2014, Adam McGreggor wrote: You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,) I do use the same password for stuff which is mine only, but these are shared with other co-moderators. And apparently at NASA they are also over-concerned (I

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ? My all time favorite: www.passwordmaker.org Doesn't store passwords

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 26 May 2014 16:04:55 +0200 (CEST) Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2014, Adam McGreggor wrote: You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,) I do use the same password for stuff which is mine only, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Malcolm Austen
On Mon, 26 May 2014 13:21:50 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ? Not an FF add-on ... but Opera will do this for you,

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
On May 26, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2014, Adam McGreggor wrote: You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,) I do use the same password for stuff which is mine only, but these are shared

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo Groups' From munging and X-Original-From

2014-05-26 Thread John Levine
a) It seems to me that this or something like it (i.e. new de facto standard headers to work around the problem) is surely an almost inevitable outcome anyway. I wouldn't count on it. The reasonable approach to this kind of nonsense is for the relatively small set of ISPs using DMARC policy to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo Groups' From munging and X-Original-From

2014-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/25/2014 11:35 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: On 26/05/2014 07:24, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: John Levine writes: This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show unauthenticated fake From: lines.