Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignore DMARC bounces?

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Shute
Mark Sapiro > For wrapping the message, the logic in dmarc_moderation_action is much > more efficient. It checks for DMARC p=reject at the Author Domain, > and then does something. Wrapping the message so that the "outside" > message is "From:" the list and the inside message is the original > (

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignore DMARC bounces?

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 06:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > > While the idea of identifying a DMARC bounce and "forwarding" the > > original post to the bounced recipient wrapped in some boilerplate about > > the need to do so has some appeal, I think the implementation would b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignore DMARC bounces?

2014-06-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > While the idea of identifying a DMARC bounce and "forwarding" the > original post to the bounced recipient wrapped in some boilerplate about > the need to do so has some appeal, I think the implementation would be > too messy to contemplate. If you wish to try, the code i

[Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Knowles writes: > I'm attempting to re-create the "Membership Management" using PHP. More > specifically, I want to be able to view, and modify all column data > associated with each subscriber in the same way the default Mailman UI does > (ex. Name, Email, MOD, Hide, Nomail, Ack, Not Me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 02:54 PM, Peter Knowles wrote: > Mark, > > I'm also considering the use of the PEAR module Services_Mailman, which > appears to interact with the Mailman default admin UI behind the scenes. > This options may be feasible in the short term. Are you aware if this > works with the curre

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 03:54 PM, Peter Knowles wrote: > Lindsay, ... > > You had mentioned something about "withlist" being the script which may can > do pretty much everything. Could this script be used for "updating" > subscriber settings, and if so could you give an example? Actually, both withlist an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Knowles
Lindsay, I didn't mean to come off as completely ignoring your suggestions. As for the temporary solution, yes this would require that the existing UI continue to be running in order to work, which as mentioned may be a "temporary" immediate solution while I work to gain the required knowledge.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 14:50 -0700, Peter Knowles wrote: > Mark, > > Preferably I'd like to transparently issue a command to Mailman backend > script(s). That is, my PHP UI would make localized changes to queue (for > scheduled changes) or directly via the "exec" (or similar) command (for > real-ti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Knowles
Mark, I'm also considering the use of the PEAR module Services_Mailman, which appears to interact with the Mailman default admin UI behind the scenes. This options may be feasible in the short term. Are you aware if this works with the current 2.x.x branch of Mailman without issue? Best Regards,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Knowles
Mark, Preferably I'd like to transparently issue a command to Mailman backend script(s). That is, my PHP UI would make localized changes to queue (for scheduled changes) or directly via the "exec" (or similar) command (for real-time changes). Essentially, we want to be in a position eventually to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 02:01 PM, Peter Knowles wrote: > Hi, > > I'm attempting to re-create the "Membership Management" using PHP. More > specifically, I want to be able to view, and modify all column data > associated with each subscriber in the same way the default Mailman UI does > (ex. Name, Email, MOD

Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 14:01 -0700, Peter Knowles wrote: > I'm attempting to re-create the "Membership Management" using PHP. More > specifically, I want to be able to view, and modify all column data > associated with each subscriber in the same way the default Mailman UI does > (ex. Name, Email, M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 14:00 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 06/16/2014 01:45 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > > > If you have shell access on a Mailman host you can pretty much do as you > > wish, including circumventing a lot of Mailman's privacy walls, all > > without having system root access. Th

[Mailman-Users] Membership Management PHP UI

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Knowles
Hi, I'm attempting to re-create the "Membership Management" using PHP. More specifically, I want to be able to view, and modify all column data associated with each subscriber in the same way the default Mailman UI does (ex. Name, Email, MOD, Hide, Nomail, Ack, Not Metoo, NoDupes, Digest, Plain, L

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 01:45 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > If you have shell access on a Mailman host you can pretty much do as you > wish, including circumventing a lot of Mailman's privacy walls, all > without having system root access. This is both good and bad, > obviously, and is mostly an argument

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:27:34 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 06/16/2014 12:49 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > There is a shell command that does that: > > > > /usr/lib/mailman/bin/find_member > > > > I don't know if there is a web interface to this command. > > > There's not. A site could

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 13:27 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > It's a privacy concern. Just because I happen to subscribe to your list > doesn't mean you should be able to know what other lists I might > subscribe to. That's why only site admins (people who have sufficient > access to the Mailman installa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 12:49 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > There is a shell command that does that: > > /usr/lib/mailman/bin/find_member > > I don't know if there is a web interface to this command. There's not. A site could implement one - see the FAQ at - but this is not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignore DMARC bounces?

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Shute
> On 17 Jun 2014, at 3:25 am, "Bryan Wright" wrote: > > Could we not send the message out as usual, then on a p=reject bounce, > forward the original message (so it comes from the mailing list) along with > an explanation of what is transpiring to the bounced user, plus to the > message author

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:38:31 -0700 Hung Phan wrote: > > As a user, one can authenticate and see the listserv groups that one > belongs to. Is there a similar feature for admin? There is a shell command that does that: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/find_member I don't know if there is a web interface t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 11:01 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This list is for Mailman users, not Listserv(r) users. See > > > That said, and assuming you really mean Mailman and not Listserv(r), > what is your question? > > If you mean is ther

Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 10:38 AM, Hung Phan wrote: > As a user, one can authenticate and see the listserv groups that one > belongs to. Is there a similar feature for admin? This list is for Mailman users, not Listserv(r) users. See That said, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignore DMARC bounces?

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/16/2014 10:10 AM, Bryan Wright wrote: > Could we not send the message out as usual, then on a p=reject bounce, > forward the original message (so it comes from the mailing list) along with > an explanation of what is transpiring to the bounced user, plus to the > message author? Maybe inc

[Mailman-Users] Determine listserv that a member belongs to

2014-06-16 Thread Hung Phan
As a user, one can authenticate and see the listserv groups that one belongs to. Is there a similar feature for admin? Thank you, -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignore DMARC bounces?

2014-06-16 Thread Bryan Wright
Could we not send the message out as usual, then on a p=reject bounce, forward the original message (so it comes from the mailing list) along with an explanation of what is transpiring to the bounced user, plus to the message author? Maybe include a note suggesting the author change mail provid

Re: [Mailman-Users] list of lists mailman 2.1.9

2014-06-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/15/2014 11:32 AM, Gonzalo Moya wrote: > > My question is: > How can the sublists accept all the post from list "members" without hold the > messages ?? See the FAQ at . -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California

[Mailman-Users] list of lists mailman 2.1.9

2014-06-16 Thread Gonzalo Moya
Hi I have problems with list of lists.. I have a setup of mailman 2.1.9 and I have a list of lists like: - member-students | members-| | - members-stuff and more members-* My question is: How can the sublists accept all the post from list "members" with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman init script doesn't work and webpage doesn't show list of lists

2014-06-16 Thread Jimmy
Mark, Good straw to grasp at. I thought SElinux had already been disabled but it hadn't. It seems to be working now. Thanks! On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 06/13/2014 11:25 AM, Jimmy wrote: > > Here is what is on the new server > ... > > > OK. I'm at a total loss and