Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Magda writes: > Debian is fairly conservative about these things, Debian may be conservative, but individual maintainers vary. Cf. that OpenSSL patch fiasco. There was no excuse for that patch, the maintainer just thought he was smarter than the OpenSSL people. Mailman itself has spent a

Re: [Mailman-Users] at Slayter 7pm TOMORROW Wed., FREE Beginner lesson, Live Band

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 10:43 AM, Ryan Anderson wrote: > Why won't this message send to my group? I have sent things before, > including a message that said "help" as the subject. I tried using "help" > as a subject but it didn't go. What do you all see? > > Ryan > > -- Forwarded message --

[Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-01 Thread Jason Fayre
Hello, I'm attempting to get Mailman 2.1.20 working with htdig. I've installed the htdig patch for this version of Mailman from Mark's site. When I run a search from the archive pages, I get a blank page. I've seen others asking this, but have never seen a solution. I think I may have had this work

[Mailman-Users] at Slayter 7pm TOMORROW Wed., FREE Beginner lesson, Live Band

2015-09-01 Thread Ryan Anderson
Why won't this message send to my group? I have sent things before, including a message that said "help" as the subject. I tried using "help" as a subject but it didn't go. What do you all see? Ryan -- Forwarded message -- From: Ryan Anderson Date: Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:02 PM Sub

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 06:55 PM, David Magda wrote: > > The message in question seems to be from October 2005, and it has the > "Subject: Você […]” header. Running under Debian 5 (Python 2.5), archive > processing wasn’t an issue: messages were coming into the mbox and the HTML > page was being generate

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 21:14, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 09/01/2015 12:09 PM, David Magda wrote: >> >> Could the new version of Python been chocking on a binary file whose >> format has changed from the old version? Is it prudent to do an "arch >> --wipe" when changing versions of Python? > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 21:02, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > In my testing with GNU grep on Ubuntu 15.04, 'grep "\xea"' interprets \x > as a literal x and therefore looks for the string "xea", not for the > character whose hex value is EA. For the record/archives: GNU grep also as the “-P” option, which

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 12:09 PM, David Magda wrote: > > Could the new version of Python been chocking on a binary file whose > format has changed from the old version? Is it prudent to do an "arch > --wipe" when changing versions of Python? The exception is thrown in Python's sort() method. There are no

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 12:16 PM, David Magda wrote: > On Tue, September 1, 2015 14:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Mark Sapiro writes: >> >> > I don't know what you are grepping, but if it's the mbox, you shouldn't >> > be looking for "\xea", you should be looking for "ê". >> >> At least on recent BSD-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Pluggable authentication for Mailman web interface?

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 06:33 AM, Waldbieser, Carl wrote: > > I know that currently, mailman roles are set up such that the roles > themselves have a shared password per role. This is true for MM 2.1. It is not true for MM 3. > I want to be able to move away from that model and have roles assigned to

Re: [Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

2015-09-01 Thread Steve Matzura
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:24:24 -0700, you wrote: >On 09/01/2015 10:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> I get Mailman job logs that look like this: >> >> Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python >> -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) >> Sep 1 09:00:01 {my_node} CROND[3012

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
On Tue, September 1, 2015 14:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > > I don't know what you are grepping, but if it's the mbox, you shouldn't > > be looking for "\xea", you should be looking for "ê". > > At least on recent BSD-based systems "\xea" is a well-defined escape > seq

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
On Tue, September 1, 2015 13:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: > There shouldn't be any non-ascii in a mbox. Well, maybe in a > "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit" (or binary?) body part, but certainly > not in any headers. > > I don't know what you are grepping, but if it's the mbox, you shouldn't > be lookin

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > I don't know what you are grepping, but if it's the mbox, you shouldn't > be looking for "\xea", you should be looking for "ê". At least on recent BSD-based systems "\xea" is a well-defined escape sequence, interpreted as the hexadecimal representation of a byte. Dunno abo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive looping

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 07:27 AM, Joseph Brennan wrote: > > Yesterday the archive got into a weird state that I could not break by a > shutdown and fresh start. For each incoming message, it rewrites all of > the old messages with one extra newline. This useless activity takes > quite a while and has caused

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 10:26 AM, David Magda wrote: > > Looking at the mbox, there was only one place where \xea was in the > header, in a Subject line, using `grep --color='auto' -P -n "\xea"`. I > manually edited the mbox (making a copy first) and remove the accented-e > character with an ASCII "e", and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive looping

2015-09-01 Thread Joseph Brennan
I must correct myself. First-- The monthly archive is 9,000 messages (137,000 is the total in the entire archive going back for years). Second-- Not all messages are getting rewritten one newline at a time. Only those with "An HTML attachment was scrubbed..." get the rewrite. Still happeni

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
[Actually send the reply to the list as well.] On Tue, September 1, 2015 12:15, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > David Magda writes: > > > When I run 'bin/arch mylistname' I get the following: > > > > [...] > > figuring article archives > > 2005-October > > /usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Arch

Re: [Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/01/2015 10:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > I get Mailman job logs that look like this: > > Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python > -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) > Sep 1 09:00:01 {my_node} CROND[30120]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python > -S /usr/local/ma

[Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

2015-09-01 Thread Steve Matzura
I get Mailman job logs that look like this: Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) Sep 1 09:00:01 {my_node} CROND[30120]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled^M) Sep 1 12:00:01 {my_node} atronus

[Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Magda writes: > When I run 'bin/arch mylistname' I get the following: > > [...] > figuring article archives > 2005-October > /usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py:176: > UnicodeWarning: Unicode equal comparison failed to convert both arguments > to Unicode - in

[Mailman-Users] Archive looping

2015-09-01 Thread Joseph Brennan
We have a list with a very large archive, over 137,000 messages in a month. It catches system alerts. This might just be a bad idea. Maybe we should archive by day. But it's been all right for many months up to now. I'm looking for ideas on how to solve a problem with the archives. Yesterday

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2015-09-01 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 31 Aug 2015 21:35:33 -0500, Nestor Praslin writes: >Hi dear mailman user is there any step by step video in youtube maybe with >the requirements and the installation process? I went to youtube. I searched for "mailman tutorial". The first 3 hits seem to be what you are lookin

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2015-09-01 Thread Nestor Praslin
Hi dear mailman user is there any step by step video in youtube maybe with the requirements and the installation process? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Nestor Praslin wrote: > Hi dear, how are you doing, I have a question?can anybody help me install > mailman and make it run? I like to get in

[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2015-09-01 Thread Nestor Praslin
Hi dear, how are you doing, I have a question?can anybody help me install mailman and make it run? I like to get in touch with you if so so that maybe ca help me installl it in my server because I have installed via webmin once but didn`t get it to run. -- Nestor Praslin International sihay.com U

[Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
Hello, We recently upgrade from Debian 5 to 6, and are now having issues with Mailman. Messages are still flowing properly, but the web archives are not being generated since the upgrade. When I run 'bin/arch mylistname' I get the following: [...] figuring article archives 2005-October /usr/loca

[Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-01 Thread David Magda
[Not sure if my first attempt made it out.] Hello, We recently upgrade from Debian 5 to 6, and are now having issues with Mailman. Messages are still flowing properly, but the web archives are not being generated since the upgrade. When I run 'bin/arch mylistname' I get the following: [...] fig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Pluggable authentication for Mailman web interface?

2015-09-01 Thread Waldbieser, Carl
I know that currently, mailman roles are set up such that the roles themselves have a shared password per role. I want to be able to move away from that model and have roles assigned to individual user accounts that would allow access to the admin interfaces for individual lists. For example,