Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Dave McGuire
On 4/10/19 12:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > The path forward is to increase the community of MM 3 users which will > result in more people contributing to the project and faster progress. On that note, I migrated my half-dozen lists (a few hundred recipients in total) to MM3 yesterday. I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Malformed URLs for some admin web page links

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 12:10 PM, Jeff Hunter wrote: > I have a mailman list that is working correctly, except for some of the links > on the base admin web page and it's child pages. The list is at > listserv.mydomain.com and all of the links on the list admin page start with > that base url, except the

[Mailman-Users] Malformed URLs for some admin web page links

2019-04-10 Thread Jeff Hunter
I have a mailman list that is working correctly, except for some of the links on the base admin web page and it's child pages. The list is at listserv.mydomain.com and all of the links on the list admin page start with that base url, except the link "Go to list archives". That link drops the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 2:53 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > What Mailman things need assistance in MM3? I've avoided jumping in because > honestly every time I looked it seemed like all the focus was everything but > the email reflector bits. There are (at the moment) 509 open issues at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 12:08 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > Maybe there's a place for a community-driven port of MM2 onto python3. I > am not volunteering, too many other projects currently. I think a much more productive use of the community's resources would be implementation of a light weight, non-Django

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 12:08 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > The main thing is that from appearances MM3 is large enterprise-grade > list manager, but many of us don't need that, we need something for a > few (<100?) lists with a few (<500?) members. I can run that on a small > BSD box; spinning up django, sass,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 09:25 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > The path forward is to increase the community of MM 3 users which will > result in more people contributing to the project and faster progress. What Mailman things need assistance in MM3? I've avoided jumping in because honestly every

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 4/10/19 2:08 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Or rust, or python3 (which might be the easiest). I'm not sufficiently > up on the python differences, but. it can't be -that- difficult. > (and aren't there tools to assist? some code claims to be both v2 and v3 > compatible) (gnat? that's really

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Matthew Goebel
I'm more worried another DMARC style debacle myself, more than a Python security issue, although that could be an issue. Thanks, Matt On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:29 PM Sean McBride wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:36:59 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said: > > >On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:36:24AM -0400, Matthew Goebel wrote: > Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are people > going to move off of mailman 2? Most of my mailman lists are run off a CentOS 6 box, have done for a long time, quite stable. CentOS 8 will (is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Sean McBride
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:36:59 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said: >On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean McBride wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said: >> >>> How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why >>> do you believe you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: With a properly sandboxed application your security vulnerability has to be a) exploitable through that application and b) able to break out of the sandbox and wreak havoc to your host system. Exactly. (That said, given the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean McBride wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said: > >> How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why >> do you believe you will need it in the future? > > Fixes to security vulnerabilities basically.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Sean McBride
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said: >> Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are >> people going to move off of mailman 2? > >How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why >do you believe you will need it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 4/10/19 10:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote: > Hey, > > Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are > people going to move off of mailman 2? How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why do you believe you will need it in the future? -- Dimitri

Re: [Mailman-Users] Systemctl unit file for MM

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 9:32 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > > You may want to add > > > > PIPFile=/home/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid > > should that variable be PIDFile? Absolutely yes. Thanks Steve. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay

Re: [Mailman-Users] Systemctl unit file for MM

2019-04-10 Thread Bryan Blackwell
On Apr 10, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > You may want to add > > PIPFile=/home/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid Ok, thanks, will do. > > However, I don't think that's relevant to your issue. I don't know why > the rm command doesn't work. How do you know it doesn't? I touched a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Systemctl unit file for MM

2019-04-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > You may want to add > > PIPFile=/home/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid should that variable be PIDFile? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 8:46 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > I'll probably continue with MM2 until either it's ported > to python3 or I stop running these lists. The GNU Mailman project will never port Mailman 2.1 to Python 3. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 8:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote: > > Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are > people going to move > off of mailman 2? I've been looking at mailman 3 and finding it hard to > grok after using > mailman 2 for many years. I haven't seen a discussion about

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 4/10/2019 8:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote: Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are people going to move off of mailman 2? I've been looking at mailman 3 and finding it hard to grok after using mailman 2 for many years. I haven't seen a discussion about this so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Systemctl unit file for MM

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/10/19 8:06 AM, Bryan Blackwell wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm learning how to use systemd on my Fedora box, since I still had MM as a > script startup I thought I'd fix that. Below is a unit file, it starts and > stops ok but the rm command doesn't work. Comments welcome. > > [Unit] >

[Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Matthew Goebel
Hey, Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are people going to move off of mailman 2? I've been looking at mailman 3 and finding it hard to grok after using mailman 2 for many years. I haven't seen a discussion about this so I thought I would check and see if people

[Mailman-Users] Systemctl unit file for MM

2019-04-10 Thread Bryan Blackwell
Hi folks, I'm learning how to use systemd on my Fedora box, since I still had MM as a script startup I thought I'd fix that. Below is a unit file, it starts and stops ok but the rm command doesn't work. Comments welcome. [Unit] Description=Mailman, the GNU Mailing List Manager