Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 confusion

2017-06-20 Thread Danil Smirnov
ssues noticed, see https://asynchronous.in/docker-mailman/ You can easily set up all Mailman components with single docker-compose.yml and even have SSL certificates automatically installed by Letsencrypt. There is no need in manual work fighting versions/dependencies/etc anymore... Regards, D

Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-19 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-07-17 18:24 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: Headers/Footers are added by Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py. Decorate.process is called by Mailman/Handlers/SPTPDirect.py to apply the replacements to msg_header and msg_footer and add them to the message. You would need to do something

Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-17 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-07-13 18:05 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: member_moderation action = Reject, a notice will be sent. The moral here is never Reject non-member posts, either Hold them or Discard them. Got it, Mark! To complete the topic, I would like also to add Mailman footers to messages,

Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-13 Thread Danil Smirnov
Another question: how about acknowledges for users from the Usernet? Will they get them after post will be gatewaying to the list? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-13 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-07-13 17:23 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: If a post from someone who is a member of the gated mail list is gated from the Usenet group to the mail list, and the poster's Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list? (ack) option is Yes, an acknowledgement will be

[Mailman-Users] best configuration for usenet group relay

2015-07-12 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi all! I need an advice from people who have experience in Usenet group gateway into the Mailman 2 mailing list (when this is a main purpose of the mailling list). AFAIK, there are no limitation on senders email in the Usenet. One can put there any crap he wants. But I doubt that it's

Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-12 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-07-12 19:42 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: On the other hand, you could just remove the fromusenet test and apply generic_nonmember_action to all posts whether or not from Usenet. I.e., just change if mlist.generic_nonmember_action == 0 or msgdata.get('fromusenet'): to

Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-12 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-07-13 0:54 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: Did you restart Mailman? Oops, forgot it. Thanks! Danil -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:

[Mailman-Users] newsgroup-mailman moderation

2015-07-12 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi Mark! I've found your posting advising how to set all posts from Usenet group to moderation: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2013-June/075346.html When look into Moderate.py I've found another code than mentioned in the post: --- # Okay, so the sender wasn't specified

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on CentOs

2015-05-11 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-05-08 14:01 GMT+03:00 Dennis Putnam d...@bellsouth.net: If you are going to install a fresh CentOS why are you not using the latest version (7)? That will solve all your problems because the CentOS 7 repos have the later version of mailman. Hi Dennis! Could you be more specific? I don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] packages vs sources (was: Cron command?)

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-21 21:23 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: But this raises the question, if you are installing Mailman from source, why do you still have artifacts from the distro's package still in your installation. Why you name them 'artefacts'? I consider them very convenient technology

[Mailman-Users] packages vs sources (was: Cron command?)

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-21 19:47 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: This is a packager thing (RHEL/CentOS ?). Mailman as distributed by the GNU Mailman project does not do this (never did). Our docs are http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node41.html and recommend installing our crontab as a user crontab

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron command?

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
Check if you already have /etc/cron.d/mailman, if not just cp /opt/local/share/mailman/cron/crontab.in /etc/cron.d/mailman with sufficient rights. 2015-04-21 8:21 GMT+03:00 Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com: Hi all, I recently updated and my digests stopped going out (I was able

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron command?

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-21 17:24 GMT+03:00 Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com: The crontab provided with Mailman in ~mailman/cron/crontab.in is not in the proper format for use in /etc/cron.d/ so a direct copy of the Mailman crontab to this directory can't be done without modifying the file. I have absolutely

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron command?

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-21 17:43 GMT+03:00 Danil Smirnov da...@smirnov.la: 2015-04-21 17:24 GMT+03:00 Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com: so a direct copy of the Mailman crontab to this directory can't be done without modifying the file. You are right but not because of improper format of crontab.in file

Re: [Mailman-Users] packages vs sources

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-21 23:10 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: They are things that are in some sense left over from a prior install of a distro's Mailman package. Had you just installed Mailman from source without ever installing the package, you would not be aware of them. Thus, they are artifacts

Re: [Mailman-Users] packages vs sources

2015-04-21 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-22 0:05 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: The source distribution also includes an init.d script at scripts/mailman and instructions for installing it are in comments at its beginning and in the installation manual at http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node42.html, so you can

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-09 Thread Danil Smirnov
The solutions is quite simple - use top-posting if you answering to the very whole message or thread (like this). It will save your time and would annoy nobody. (Don't forget to put your signature right after your answer to show others that there is nothing else below it from you to search for.)

[Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix: suddenly no delivery logs

2015-04-07 Thread Danil Smirnov
I've just send new post to my list and I see that postfix got in and transfer to mailman script: cat /var/log/maillog | grep li...@domain.net Apr 7 15:45:18 host1 postfix/local[32043]: 15439A403A1: to=list1-domain@domain.com, orig_to=li...@domain.net, relay=local, delay=0.75,

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix: suddenly no delivery logs

2015-04-07 Thread Danil Smirnov
Logs found in /var/lib/mailman/logs - everything is okay with them. Wrong anti-spam configuration is also found: I have to put permit_mynetworks before any reject_... entries. p.s. Why a solution always comes right after help message was sent to the list? 2015-04-07 16:22 GMT+03:00 Danil

[Mailman-Users] web UI somehow has appeared broken

2015-04-03 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi! I've just created new mailing list and successfully configured it through web UI. Now I try to change some subscribers' params on page Membership Management. But it does not work! (No changes appear recorded after form submitting.) I've noticed that in source of this page the form action

Re: [Mailman-Users] web UI somehow has appeared broken

2015-04-03 Thread Danil Smirnov
I've found another list with the same behavior. It looks like this http://; action part appears in situation with many subscribers only. If the subscribers number become higher than admin_member_chunksize, and display mode switches to divided by letters, it stops working properly.

Re: [Mailman-Users] web UI somehow has appeared broken

2015-04-03 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-04-03 16:21 GMT+03:00 Danil Smirnov da...@smirnov.la: I've found another list with the same behavior. It looks like this http://; action part appears in situation with many subscribers only. If the subscribers number become higher than admin_member_chunksize, and display mode

[Mailman-Users] reject notice to non-member

2015-03-20 Thread Danil Smirnov
was deemed inappropriate by the moderator. --- Is this a bug? I'm using Mailman 2.1.18-1 Thanks, Danil Smirnov -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] reject notice to non-member

2015-03-20 Thread Danil Smirnov
2015-03-20 16:46 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: You can consider that it's a bug if you wish and report it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug, but it is the intentional behavior. Okay I see Mark. But there is no any other way to include reason of rejecting to notice.

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved from non-subscriber

2015-02-19 Thread Danil Smirnov
Thanks Mark! And how about if this non-subscriber is included to the hold_these_nonmembers list in Privacy -- Sender filters? Is Approved: powerful enough to overpower this option? TIA, Danil 2015-02-18 19:56 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: On 02/18/2015 04:34 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote

[Mailman-Users] remove message from archive?

2015-02-18 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi! Are there any way to remove one particular message from list archive? Thanks, Danil -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

[Mailman-Users] approved from non-subscriber

2015-02-18 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi, I was surprised by the fact that message from unsubscribed address was successfully delivered to the list because of Approved: pseudo header. Is this intended behavior? Are there a way to configure list to accept messages with Approved: header only if sender is moderated subscriber? Thanks,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong encoding

2015-02-06 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hello EyeLand! You can add 'AddDefaultCharset koi8-r' directive to your list.ournet.biz virtual host configuration and restart Apache webserver. This force server to return main listinfo page in koi8-r encoding, as well as all list-specific listinfo pages. This should help because server encoding

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong encoding

2015-02-06 Thread Danil Smirnov
Note that the reply from Danil about changing your web server's default charset is probably also relevant. Unfortunately it is not. :( After some testing I've found that AddDefaultCharset does not help - it seems like Mailman changes default server's header to its own default header for US

[Mailman-Users] encoding of bin/script output

2015-02-04 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hello! I've noticed that output of bin scripts depends on $LANG environment variable. I can switch languages of output by issue export LANG=en_US (or ru_RU). But what I could not find is how to switch a charset of output. I tried to issue export LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, export LANG=ru_RU.koi8-r but

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding of bin/script output

2015-02-04 Thread Danil Smirnov
It seems I forgot to type my question: how could I force bin scripts to change encoding of their output? Thanks. 2015-02-04 18:37 GMT+02:00 Danil Smirnov da...@smirnov.la: Hello! I've noticed that output of bin scripts depends on $LANG environment variable. I can switch languages of output

[Mailman-Users] subscribers classes?

2015-02-04 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi! Are there any way to send different welcome messages to subscribers which depend of their class? For example, I have announcement list with two classes of subscribers: - posters, who are allowed to post to the list (subscribed by admin) - silent members who just receive posts from the first

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers classes?

2015-02-04 Thread Danil Smirnov
I have an idea to create another list whose members can post to the first list without moderation. Now I can configure different welcome messages, right? :) Any advices/warns? 2015-02-04 13:14 GMT+02:00 Danil Smirnov da...@smirnov.la: Hi! Are there any way to send different welcome messages

[Mailman-Users] another logo images?

2015-02-03 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hello! I have upgraded Mailman from 2.12 to 2.18-1 and found that now we have different logo image which have white background and lookы inaccurate on my gray one. Arе theку any image library for Mailman where I could select proper logo image? Thanks. Danil

[Mailman-Users] how to subscribe users of one list to another when they post

2015-01-29 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi Mark, Barry and others! Could you please advice whether it's possible to automate situation when users of particular list post to some sibling list which they are not member of: - to invite them - to subscribe them silently - to subscribe them with moderator approve Is it possible with

[Mailman-Users] 1-click subscription confirmation?

2014-12-16 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi! Are there a way to let subscribers be subscribed to the list right after clicking on the link in address confirmation e-mail without second step - pushing button on subscription page? (I'm afraid some of them will not push this button thinking the're already subscribed...) Danil

Re: [Mailman-Users] configuring of Mailman UI url for Webmin

2014-12-13 Thread Danil Smirnov
Okay I have some progress with changing of UI urls: https://www.virtualmin.com/node/35532#comment-141577 May be it will help somebody. 2014-12-09 16:22 GMT+02:00 Danil Smirnov da...@smirnov.la: Hi all! I've installed Mailman module in Webmin control panel and found some problems

[Mailman-Users] configuring of Mailman UI url for Webmin

2014-12-09 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hi all! I've installed Mailman module in Webmin control panel and found some problems with it: https://www.virtualmin.com/node/35532 Could you please point me to good guide for Mailman UI url setup to change Webmin ugly defaults? Do anybody know contacts of Mailman Webmin module developers?

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to discard bounced messages?

2009-04-17 Thread Danil Smirnov
... Thank you... Danil 2009/4/16 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Danil Smirnov wrote: 2009/4/16 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net You need to individually mark each request discard in the admindb interface and Submit All Data. There is no bulk removal method or tool for subscription requests

[Mailman-Users] how to discard bounced messages?

2009-04-09 Thread Danil Smirnov
Hello all! I have more that 40 thousand spam messages bounced on my mailman list. Can't discard them thru the web interface... I googled and searched this list archive and found a solution: cd /usr/lib/mailman/bin ./discard data/heldmsg* But I've got Ignoring non-held message: data/heldmsg*