Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Odhiambo Washington writes: > Okay, so Exim and Postfix act the same in their default configs > unless one changes it. Mark (Dale), does your Postfix act the same > way? I think it doesn't and maybe it's something you need to take a > second look at?? Mark Dale's posts demonstrate knows his

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Dale writes: > Verizon began accepting mail again for lists on the European server > about 6 hours ago. Yay! And thank you for that followup. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/23/2016 11:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Okay, so Exim and Postfix act the same in their default configs unless one > changes it. Mark (Dale), does your Postfix act the same way? I think it > doesn't and maybe it's something you need to take a second look at?? Why do you think this?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Okay, so Exim and Postfix act the same in their default configs unless one changes it. Mark (Dale), does your Postfix act the same way? I think it doesn't and maybe it's something you need to take a second look at?? On 23 December 2016 at 22:17, Richard Shetron wrote: >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
That's what Exim does, unless the sysadmin changes things! On 23 December 2016 at 20:21, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/23/2016 06:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > I know Exim will only treat a session as a failure if it gets 5xx. Does > > Postfix do the same? > > > Yes,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Richard Shetron
Postfix is the same. I had to install a greylisting package to add greylisting to postfix. On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On 23 December 2016 at 17:36, Richard Shetron > wrote: Maybe they were using some type of grey

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/23/2016 06:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I know Exim will only treat a session as a failure if it gets 5xx. Does > Postfix do the same? Yes, mostly. Postfix treats any 4xx as retryable and retries at configured intervals until the message is delivered or maximal_queue_lifetime

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On 23 December 2016 at 17:36, Richard Shetron wrote: > Maybe they were using some type of grey listing. > > For those who don't know: > Grey listing is where the target MTA rejects with a retry error code the > email from a new source for some period of time. Every site can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Richard Shetron
Maybe they were using some type of grey listing. For those who don't know: Grey listing is where the target MTA rejects with a retry error code the email from a new source for some period of time. Every site can set their own delay. Most spammers won't retry so it gets rid of a lot of spam.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Dale
Thanks for the suggestion on the mailop list Jim. Verizon began accepting mail again for lists on the European server about 6 hours ago. No light was shed as to why or what changed their view. Not only Verizon but AT as well, at around the same time - a little puzzle that's probably best

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Dale writes: > We haven't brushed Odhiambo off, but rather have worked with him on this > problem trying to fix it. However, I'm sorry if I gave the impression that you did, everything Odhiambo wrote indicates that you have been very helpful, and I took that for granted. By support

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Mark Dale wrote: > Hi Odhiambo and Steve, > > I'm one of the co-owners of MailmanLists.net that is mentioned in this post. > > As Odhiambo said, we've recently moved one of the servers that hosted > Odhiambo's list. This involved a change

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Mark Dale
Hi Odhiambo and Steve, I'm one of the co-owners of MailmanLists.net that is mentioned in this post. As Odhiambo said, we've recently moved one of the servers that hosted Odhiambo's list. This involved a change of IP address, and at the same time the problem with Verizon kicked into play.

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Odhiambo Washington writes: > mails, but majority of the subscribers are with Verizon/ATT and that has > really affected one list that I have so I need to change. Do you have a reason to think a change will help? As you say, they're notorious for blocking list emails. I doubt their criteria

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 08:45:35PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > True. We then migrated the list to another of their servers that already > existed, but the rejections > became even more. I'd still do a gradual ramp-up to N recipients with the 'standard' type of messages/headers/patterns

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On 21 December 2016 at 20:09, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:11:16PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move > to > > another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread ddewey
Quoting Adam McGreggor (adam-mail...@amyl.org.uk): > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:11:16PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move to > > another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of IP > > addresses and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:11:16PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move to > another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of IP > addresses and this has not gone well for one of my mailing lists which

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Just for the record, I have been hosting with mailmanlists.net for the last three or so years and I am very happy with them. The only problem is that one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move to another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hi to East Africa I do not have any information about their "reputation" with Verizon and AT, but our organization uses digimouse.eu for mail, mailing lists and web. You may want to mention my name when contacting them (no, I do not get any compensation for my "advertising"). Christian --

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hi, Does anyone know of a provider who hosts Mailman and who has a good reputation with American ISPs - Verizon and ATT, etc? These providers somehow have notoriety blocking mailing list emails. I'm currently hosting with a provider based in Oz, but having some difficulties when it comes to

[Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread James Reid
Hi Everyone, I've been running my own server hosting (amongst other things) mailman for the last 10+ years using a combination of either my own server, or more recently VPS. However, I've got to the point in my life where it is too much work to maintain the servers myself, so am now

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Carpenter
Hi Everyone, I've been running my own server hosting (amongst other things) mailman for the last 10+ years using a combination of either my own server, or more recently VPS. However, I've got to the point in my life where it is too much work to maintain the servers myself, so am now

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread Ed Kasky
I just did exactly what you are doing for the same reasons... I moved everything over to Asmallorange and so far I have been very happy. http://asmallorange.com/ On 1/27/2013 12:43 AM, James Reid wrote: Hi Everyone, I've been running my own server hosting (amongst other things) mailman for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread William Bagwell
On Sunday 27 January 2013, Ed Kasky wrote: I just did exactly what you are doing for the same reasons... I moved everything over to Asmallorange and so far I have been very happy. Long time ASO customer... They have a strict 1,000 emails per hour limit so a discussion list with 250 members

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Carpenter
  -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of William Bagwell Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:59 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed On Sunday 27 January 2013, Ed Kasky wrote

[Mailman-Users] MAILMAN HOSTING pt 2

2004-04-20 Thread Sean Carnahan
My List is personal list, not for profit, Any places I can host a NEWSLETTER mailman list that you all could suggest? The lists are one for 5,000 and another of around 19,000 people? My present hosting company only allows 1,000 email per hour.

Re: [Mailman-Users] MAILMAN HOSTING pt 2

2004-04-20 Thread texas critter - mailman-users
Sean Carnahan wrote: The lists are one for 5,000 and another of around 19,000 people? My present hosting company only allows 1,000 email per hour. For lists of these sizes, you're probably going to need to use a professional list host. If you google on email list host or similar phrases,

[Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting services

2003-03-24 Thread John DeCarlo
Hello, This is probably mostly off-topic, so any commercial replies should probably go directly to me. I have been asked to support multiple school PTAs, each with one to three mail lists. Initially, I have started putting together a proposal for setting up a computer in a central location

[Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting requirements

2003-03-05 Thread John DeCarlo
Hello, I know this is one of those questions where the real answer is it depends. However, I will ask it anyway, in case someone has done something similar enough. I have been running two small lists with Mailman, several hundred users, and average of 2 messages a day per list. The impact

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting requirements

2003-03-05 Thread Jon Carnes
If all the lists are similar to yours then that setup would work fine. If the lists are going to be more like this one (with a lot of messages per day) then you should go with at least a 600Mhz box, and go for the 512Mb RAM so that you can run some Spam filtering on the box as well. Good Luck -

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2002-05-23 Thread Feingold Josh S
Title: Mailman Hosting Do you know of anyone who would offer to host my low volume mailing list for me using mailman? Thanks, Josh