Brad Knowles writes:
However, I am starting to wonder if this kind of stuff going away
is not part of an overall effort to dumb-down OS X so that it can
be unified with iOS.
Could be, but in that case I would expect that their strategy is to
completely eliminate server support, and try to
Am 20.08.2012 um 12:33 schrieb Brad Knowles:
On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote:
There are lots of mailing lists available. Mailman is only one of them.
Apple no doubt supports _a_ mailing list, but as Apple Enterprise
Support says, one can seldom
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 22:33 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
Regretfully, the Server team at Apple is well known for ignoring
feedback and input from anyone else, especially anyone else in the
company.
My guess is that they don't put their top-flight people on either server
development or server
Lindsay Haisley writes:
but if they're going to make modifications to it, they need to share
those modifications back with us
Doesn't their failure to do so violate the GPL?
No. The GPL requires that you grant certain rights to use of your
code to downstream recipients, not that you
On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote:
My guess is that they don't put their top-flight people on either server
development or server support.
I believe that they do have high quality people working on the development
side, I think the issue is more on the
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Brad Knowles wrote:
I've got a copy of Mountain Lion server (it's only $20), and the code in
question is Python, so it has to be shipped as source. So, if we want
their changes, it's easy enough to get them.
Actually, it doesn't have to be shipped as source. They could
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 21:39 +0300, Geoff Shang wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Brad Knowles wrote:
I've got a copy of Mountain Lion server (it's only $20), and the code in
question is Python, so it has to be shipped as source. So, if we want
their changes, it's easy enough to get them.
Brad Knowles writes:
Doesn't their failure to do so violate the GPL?
In this respect, I believe that they are probably in violation of
the spirit of the GPL, but perhaps not in the letter of the law.
RMS is adamantly opposed to that interpretation of the spirit of the
GPL, and has said
David Dodell wrote:
(1) First issue is cosmetic.At the bottom of each administrative page,
mailman does not display the icons which I see on ever other mailman website
... basically the mailman / python logos. Not a real big deal, besides the
cosmetic irk. I've checked the docs, found
On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Which is probably why they are so very violently opposed to having
any GPL-encumbered code anywhere in the company.
GCC? gdb? binutils? Make? CUPS? Mailman? And that's just the
applications I know of in the Mac
Brad Knowles writes:
More importantly, it would be much less difficult for us to support
that part of the community, which would help reduce the support
burden that Apple has to maintain.
C'mon, Brad, it's *annoying* to have to support that part of the
community, but it's never been
Brad Knowles writes:
On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Which is probably why they are so very violently opposed to having
any GPL-encumbered code anywhere in the company.
GCC? gdb? binutils? Make? CUPS? Mailman?
Gcc gdb are gone
On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
More importantly, it would be much less difficult for us to support
that part of the community, which would help reduce the support
burden that Apple has to maintain.
C'mon, Brad, it's *annoying* to have to support
Am 13.08.2012 um 00:25 schrieb David Dodell:
This list is my last hope on getting my problems fixed.
I am running OSX Lion (not Mountain Lion). Mailman was part of the
default installation.
I have two issues which I have gotten absolutely no help from Apple
Enterprise Support ...
Am 20.08.2012 um 01:00 schrieb David Dodell:
where is apache looking for the icons.
I think I read on the OS X Server List that the icons are on a different
place than they should be.
This problem has been fixed. Strangely enough, found where apache was
looking for the icons, put
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 12:22 +0900, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
Am 13.08.2012 um 00:25 schrieb David Dodell:
This list is my last hope on getting my problems fixed.
I am running OSX Lion (not Mountain Lion). Mailman was part of
the default installation.
I have two issues which I
On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote:
There are lots of mailing lists available. Mailman is only one of them.
Apple no doubt supports _a_ mailing list, but as Apple Enterprise
Support says, one can seldom expect support from a proprietary software
vendor
This list is my last hope on getting my problems fixed.
I am running OSX Lion (not Mountain Lion). Mailman was part of the default
installation.
I have two issues which I have gotten absolutely no help from Apple Enterprise
Support ... basic answer, we don't support open source software
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