On 3/10/2005 8:23 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
John Swartzentruber wrote:


When one user on one of my lists replies to list messages, they get sent to the bounce address and show up as uncaught bounces. I understand why this is happening, so that itself isn't my question. In the latest instance, this user also CC'ed the correct list address. It looks like the message was sent to:

To: A individual address
To: The "list-bounces" address
CC: The correct list address

My question is why the message never showed up for moderation (the list is moderated)? All that showed up was the "uncaught bounce" message. It seems that the actual message should also have come through. Is duplicates processing preventing that? In this case, I would prefer that the real message be processed and the bounce message be discarded instead of the other way around. If this isn't the case, what could have caused the message not to come through?


The header - X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm guessing that these headers came from the "unrecognized bounce"
e-mail that you received. If that is the case, the "reply" contains
way too many headers from the original message that should not be
included in a reply. Rather than a "reply", it looks like a redirect
or resend.

She *claims* she just did a "Reply All". She's using Outlook so anything is possible. The headers are definitely very weird. You'll also notice that there are Juno specific headers and she isn't using Juno. Those were from the message that she is replying too.


Thanks for reminding me about the X-BeenThere. I guess that clears up the Mailman mystery. The Outlook mystery is outside of the scope of this list.




But then, if these are headers from the bounce, I don't know why it
would be unrecognized as the reply address
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to
be a VERP like address that should always be recognizable regardless
of message content.


Here are the headers (with stuff crossed out or changed):

Received: from gatekeeper-sef.rcbhsc.wvu.edu (gatekeeper.rcbhsc.wvu.edu [xxx.xxx.216.2])
by xx.xxx.xxx.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id
j29IZVUc013396; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:35:33 -0500
Received: from nt-exchange1.xxxh.xxxhs.com by gatekeeper-sef.rcbhsc.xxx.edu
via smtpd (for dslxxx-xxx-039.phl1.dsl.xxx.net [xxx.xxx.233.39])
with ESMTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:35:32 -0500
Received: (private information removed)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jones, Sally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Richard J Smith '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [BogusList] Subject
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:35:27 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <http://www.bogusdomain.org/mailman/listinfo/boguslist>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.bogusdomain.org/mailman/listinfo/boguslist>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3, 6-7, 20-21, 30-31, 34-35, 43-45, 48, 55-56, 58, 63-64,
68-69, 76-77, 79
X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on localhost
X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on localhost
X-Virus-Status: Clean
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
X-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-MailScanner-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="ISO-8859-1"


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