Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/14/2017 03:44 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Mailman 3 sounds very promising. > Is Postorius and HyperKitty a part of that installation or are we > talking different software? Mailman 3 is much more modular than Mailman 2.1 There is a core list management engine that can run by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-14 Thread Hal via Mailman-Users
On 12/11/17 02:10, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 11/11/2017 03:58 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: On 12/11/17 00:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: Would adding me as a member to the Mailman group be the "safest" option? It would allow you to do what you need (and to "mess up" Mailman ;) without giving you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 11/13/2017 4:03 PM, eminmn wrote: Anyway, I think there are a few million people around the world who are aware of his contribution to freedom of computation And his anti-contributions? Anyway, since this is rather far removed from mailman v2, can we give it a rest. z!

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 11/13/2017 06:03 PM, eminmn wrote: > Steve: > > On 11/12/2017 23:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Dimitri Maziuk writes: >> >>   > Heh. You made me look. No, contrary to the popular belief LiGNUx >> did not >>   > invent the world, >> >> There is no such thing as LiGNUx.  Stallman may have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread eminmn
Steve: On 11/12/2017 23:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Dimitri Maziuk writes: > Heh. You made me look. No, contrary to the popular belief LiGNUx did not > invent the world, There is no such thing as LiGNUx. Stallman may have his fingers in a lot of software (to my everlasting annoyance;

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread Richard Shetron
https://xkcd.com/927/ On 11/11/2017 2:04 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: On 2017-11-11 12:22, Phil Stracchino wrote: Heh, I just looked at that myself.  How did such a useless tool ever become standard? [snip] -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Dimitri Maziuk writes: > Heh. You made me look. No, contrary to the popular belief LiGNUx did not > invent the world, There is no such thing as LiGNUx. Stallman may have his fingers in a lot of software (to my everlasting annoyance; he wrote, and at last check circa 2013 continues to write,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-11-12 12:06, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: other unix vendors ^^^ braino. "the only unix vendors left standing". Dima -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-11-11 18:34, Jordan Brown wrote: arch(1) dates back to at least SunOS 4.0, ca 1987.  I haven't been able to find manual pages before that. The competitor, "uname -m", dates back at least that far, in the System V branch of UNIX - it's in the SVID in 1986. ... So I think the simple

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-11-11 17:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 11/11/2017 02:28 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: ... The "LISTNAME.mbox/" directory contains a single "LISTNAME.mbox" file while the "LISTNAME/" directory contains a variety of files and sub-directories by month. I suppose I have to clean things up

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Jordan Brown
On 11/11/2017 11:04 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 2017-11-11 12:22, Phil Stracchino wrote: >> Heh, I just looked at that myself.  How did such a useless tool ever >> become standard? > My guess is IIRC SunOS was on Solaris 8 by 2001, and it was *the* > grown-up 64-bit unix: every other unix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/11/2017 03:58 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 12/11/17 00:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Whatever is done, needs to be done by someone with write access to that >> directory. > > Would adding me as a member to the Mailman group be the "safest" option? > Safest meaning that the web-server

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Hal via Mailman-Users
On 12/11/17 00:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 11/11/2017 02:28 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: unfortunately I'm unable to access that location ("permission denied") for some reason, It is not uncommon for /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ to not be readable/searchable by other than the web

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/11/2017 02:28 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I also tried to log into the server and believe they're located > somewhere here: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ That's where they should be. > unfortunately I'm unable to access that location ("permission denied") > for some

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Hal via Mailman-Users
On 07/11/17 19:41, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: On 11/07/2017 01:29 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived. I would like to remove them but all the info I can find

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-11-11 12:22, Phil Stracchino wrote: Heh, I just looked at that myself. How did such a useless tool ever become standard? My guess is IIRC SunOS was on Solaris 8 by 2001, and it was *the* grown-up 64-bit unix: every other unix vendor's keeled over or was about to and x86_64 didn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 11/11/17 13:17, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > Heh. You made me look. No, contrary to the popular belief LiGNUx did not > invent the world, nor did mailman invent "arch". Sunos had it since > forever, but it appears nobody else did. Somehow it made its way into > linux and apparently everyone's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-11 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-11-10 01:06, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Dimitri Maziuk writes: > well, given /bin/arch and its importance to packagers and such, you'd > have to agree that bin/arch was perhaps not the best choice of name. > ;) Yup, and pretty sure Mailman's was first. There's a reason why

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Dimitri Maziuk writes: > well, given /bin/arch and its importance to packagers and such, you'd > have to agree that bin/arch was perhaps not the best choice of name. > ;) Yup, and pretty sure Mailman's was first. There's a reason why namespaces were invented.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/08/2017 04:19 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 11/08/2017 06:00 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 11/07/2017 10:41 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >>> >>> man mmarch >> >> >> Which is apparently some packager's version of Mailman's bin/arch > > well, given /bin/arch and its importance to packagers and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-08 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 11/08/2017 06:00 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/07/2017 10:41 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >> >> man mmarch > > > Which is apparently some packager's version of Mailman's bin/arch well, given /bin/arch and its importance to packagers and such, you'd have to agree that bin/arch was perhaps not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/07/2017 10:41 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 11/07/2017 01:29 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: >> I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a >> few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived. >> I would like to remove them but all the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-07 Thread Jim Dory
Just had to do it today. I chose method #1 - just deleted an URL that was probably used for phishing from two messages. https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20edit%20the%20archives%20of%20a%20Mailman%20list%3F On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-07 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 11/07/2017 01:29 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: > I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a > few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived. > I would like to remove them but all the info I can find when searching > online are along the

[Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-07 Thread Hal via Mailman-Users
I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived. I would like to remove them but all the info I can find when searching online are along the lines of "hard to do", "shouldn't be attempted",