[Mailman-Users] uncaught bounce notification

2009-03-13 Thread Ted Frohling
I'm getting an uncaught bounce notification from a particular user on one of my mailing lists. In a message in the archives, one respondent said they could look at the message, but would need the original email. I'm using mailman 2.1.9 and postfix as the mta. I can't figure out where I would

Re: [Mailman-Users] uncaught bounce notification

2009-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ted Frohling wrote: I'm getting an uncaught bounce notification from a particular user on one of my mailing lists. In a message in the archives, one respondent said they could look at the message, but would need the original email. I'm using mailman 2.1.9 and postfix as the mta. I can't figure

Re: [Mailman-Users] uncaught bounce notification

2009-03-13 Thread Barry Finkel
Ted Frohling t...@frohling.org wrote: I'm getting an uncaught bounce notification from a particular user on one of my mailing lists. In a message in the archives, one respondent said they could look at the message, but would need the original email. I'm using mailman 2.1.9 and postfix as the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Grossman wrote: Don't temporary failures get a score of 0.5 while a permanent failure gets a score of 1.0? So, if that is the case, these temporary failures would take longer to suspend the account. I think these should be counted. That's what the documentation says, but in fact, it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-15 Thread Jeff Grossman
Mark Sapiro wrote: Jeff Grossman wrote: Don't temporary failures get a score of 0.5 while a permanent failure gets a score of 1.0? So, if that is the case, these temporary failures would take longer to suspend the account. I think these should be counted. That's what the documentation

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the bounce system? You send them to me, but I need

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the bounce system?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grant Taylor wrote: On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Ed's Shop
* Grant Taylor wrote: On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/14/2009 07:04 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: That question hinges on whether or not the bounce should be considered a permanent or a temporary failure. The bounce itself says This is a permanent error. Agreed. However I believe the permanent or temporary nature that the bounce is speaking of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grant Taylor wrote: P.S. I find it interesting that the bounce is eluding to the amount of space remaining in the account. This is (in my experience) extremely unusual. As I read the bounce, it says Sorry, your intended recipient has too much mail stored in his mailbox. Your message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/14/2009 08:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: and I interpret that to mean that even though the user is over quota, the MTA will accept a 1 KB message to allow you to try to notify the user of the problem, not that the user is 1 KB below quota. *nod* Hopefully there is a limit to how far over

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
Grant Taylor wrote: On 02/13/2009 07:29 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-14 Thread Brad Knowles
on 2/14/09 7:32 PM, Grant Taylor said: Agreed. However I believe the permanent or temporary nature that the bounce is speaking of is on the SMTP level, thus the sending server should not try to send this given message again. I think it is a flaw to extend this SMTP meaning up to actual

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notification

2009-02-13 Thread Jeff Grossman
I received a uncaught bounce notification from one of my lists today. The bounce looks pretty normal, and figured it should have been caught by the bounce system. How do I report bounce formats that did not get caught by the bounce system? Here is the bounce. I changed the e-mail address.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification: Why this message , I haven't sent Any mails

2007-12-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
kk CHN wrote: I have few mailing lists running on Mailman(I am the list administrator for these lists ) : for the last few days I am getting a message regularly with subject line like this : Uncaught bounce notification I havn't sent any mails to the address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) still I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification: Why this message , I haven't sent Any mails

2007-12-17 Thread Barry Finkel
kk CHN wrote: I have few mailing lists running on Mailman(I am the list administrator for these lists ) : for the last few days I am getting a message regularly with subject line like this : Uncaught bounce notification I havn't sent any mails to the address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) still I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification: Why this message , I haven't sent Any mails

2007-12-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 12/17/07, kk CHN wrote: I have few mailing lists running on Mailman(I am the list administrator for these lists ) : for the last few days I am getting a message regularly with subject line like this : Uncaught bounce notification In this case, someone sent out spam, claiming to be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification: Why this message , I haven't sent Any mails

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Donsbach
On Dec 17, 2007 11:20 AM, Barry Finkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a problem here where mail from a Mailman list is sent to a BlackBerry device. When the recipient does a reply-all, one of the reply recipients is the list -bounce address. This appears to be a bug in the BlackBerry MUA

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification: Why this message , I haven't sent Any mails

2007-12-16 Thread kk CHN
Hello everybody ; I have few mailing lists running on Mailman(I am the list administrator for these lists ) : for the last few days I am getting a message regularly with subject line like this : Uncaught bounce notification I havn't sent any mails to the address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification - Out-of-Office

2007-07-24 Thread Barry Finkel
I, as co-owner of a Mailman 2.1.9 list, received this message: Subject: Uncaught bounce notification The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification - Out-of-Office

2007-07-24 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 08:12 -0500, Barry Finkel wrote: Or is the format of the text too variable to be able to parse the OOO message? Bingo! No Standard, and even if there was one most wouldn't follow it. The 2 biggest offenders I see are Outlook/Exchange and Lotus Notes, of which neither

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification - Out-of-Office

2007-07-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Finkel writes: The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, This is the relevant case here. If the message doesn't look like an MTA bounce, it's probably a bad idea to treat it as a bounce. ML admin addresses get a fair

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification - Out-of-Office

2007-07-24 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Barry Finkel wrote: Are there plans for Mailman to be able to intercept out-of-office replies and ignore them? Or is the format of the text too variable to be able to parse the OOO message? I've solved this problem locally using a procmail rule, and I think the method

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification loop

2006-12-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Parish wrote: With *bounce_processing set to Yes on one list I get: * The attached message was received as a bounce... messages, with the same message attached many times. i.e. The Uncaught bounce notification IS the attached message. These continue streaming out until I turn off

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification loop

2006-11-29 Thread Brian Parish
With *bounce_processing set to Yes on one list I get: * The attached message was received as a bounce... messages, with the same message attached many times. i.e. The Uncaught bounce notification IS the attached message. These continue streaming out until I turn off *bounce_processing Clues

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification question/problem

2005-03-10 Thread John Swartzentruber
When one user on one of my lists replies to list messages, they get sent to the bounce address and show up as uncaught bounces. I understand why this is happening, so that itself isn't my question. In the latest instance, this user also CC'ed the correct list address. It looks like the message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification question/problem

2005-03-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Swartzentruber wrote: When one user on one of my lists replies to list messages, they get sent to the bounce address and show up as uncaught bounces. I understand why this is happening, so that itself isn't my question. In the latest instance, this user also CC'ed the correct list