[Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
* Schwartz, Robert - IS robert.schwa...@itt.com: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. Set the reply-to: to something wrong :) -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Implement umbrella list on Mailman 2.1.9
Esteban Torres Rodriguez wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: warts and all What do you mean? I have read the FAQ, but not what you mean. Quoting from dictionary.com wart [...] 3. any unattractive detrimental feature or aspect: /The biography presents the full story of the prime minister's political career, warts and all/. In this case, the unattractiveness is if a list is set as an umbrella with other lists as members, and there are people who are members of multiple sub-lists, they will receive duplicates of posts to the umbrella, one for each sub-list of which they are a member. Also, if you set a list to be an umbrella (General Options - umbrella_list = Yes), the only thing that does is assume that all members of that list are other lists so that administrative notices such as password reminders from that list for a member whose address is subl...@example.com will be sent to sublist-ow...@example.com so there can be issues with lists which have both individuals and other lists as members. That is what I meant by warts and all. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
On 04/30/10 09:23, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: Set the reply-to: to something wrong :) That will not work. Reply-to-All will reply to the incorrect Reply-To as well as all other senders. There is also a possibility that a spam filter will detect that the Reply-To is invalid and will consider the message spam. Reply-to-All is an end user application function that Mailman its self has no control over. A better question would be where does the OP want replies to go? Make Reply-To reflect that location. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
On 04/29/10 13:26, Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? To directly answer your question (and for the benefit of others searching the archives) I think the best that you will be able to do is to filter messages based on the existence of the standard reply headers (References: and In-Reply-To:) and reject the message(s). Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
On 4/30/2010 7:23 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Schwartz, Robert - ISrobert.schwa...@itt.com: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. Set the reply-to: to something wrong :) Kinda defeats the purpose of replying at all. Robert- Why?? Most mailing lists are a conversation (of sorts). You say one thing and I say something relevant to that (like this). Almost all messaging happens like that (email, web fora, chat systems, SMS, etc). Do you want to prevent two-way conversation, force every message to me a new message, or what? Also, reply-all is a MUA function, not an MTA function, so changing the behavior of Mailman is kind of a band-aid solution. (That aside, you could look at the subject for a Re: or similar tag, but that's not reliable. You could look for mailman's X-BeenThere or X-Mailman-Version headers, which would be better... OTOH, these will prevent -all- replies that go to the list, not just reply-all.) z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
* Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com: On 4/30/2010 7:23 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Schwartz, Robert - ISrobert.schwa...@itt.com: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. Set the reply-to: to something wrong :) Kinda defeats the purpose of replying at all. It was not my idea! -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] get list of users
How can you get a list of all user's and addresses exported to .csv or .xls from the web. Robert P. Schwartz CAS, Inc. A wholly owned subsidiary of ITT Corporation 100 Quality Circle Huntsville, AL 35806 Phone: 256.922.4203 Fax: 256.922.4243 E-mail: robert.schwa...@itt.commailto:robert.schwa...@itt.com This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] get list of users
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: How can you get a list of all user's and addresses exported to .csv or .xls from the web. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/aYA9 which, among other things will point you to the script at http://www.msapiro.net/mailman-subscribers.py which runs on your workstation and can generate a .csv from the web admin interface. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Thank you -- Help with migration
Thank you! *** -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:34 AM To: Lee, Davis H; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Thank you -- Help with migration The files in the lists/listname/ directory need to be Mailman's group - 'list' in your case. The lists/listname directories need to be SETGID - i.e. mode 2775, not 0775. sudo /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f (if I have the path right) should fix all of this. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan *** Two more questions. QUESTION ONE: Checkperms doesn't change the group owner on the symlinks under /var/lib/mailman (I get the message below no matter how many times I run checkperms -f). Should I chgrp -h on those symlinks? c...@lists:~$ c...@lists:~$ c...@lists:~$ sudo /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f /var/lib/mailman/locks bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/Mailman bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/bin bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/templates bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/icons bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/logs bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/mail bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/cron bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/scripts bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing) c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ ls -al | more total 36 drwxrwsr-x 8 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 . drwxr-xr-x 33 root root 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 .. drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 2005-03-20 16:17 archives lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2010-04-13 10:08 bin - /usr/lib/mailman/bin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2010-04-13 10:08 cgi-bin - /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2010-04-13 10:08 cron - /usr/lib/mailman/cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2010-04-26 11:35 data lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2010-04-13 10:08 icons - /usr/share/images/mailman drwxrwsr-x 40 root list 4096 2010-04-13 11:02 lists lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2010-04-13 10:08 locks - /var/lock/mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2010-04-13 10:08 logs - /var/log/mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2010-04-13 10:08 mail - /usr/lib/mailman/mail lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2010-04-13 10:08 Mailman - /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman drwxrwsr-x 37 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 messages drwxrwsr-x 11 list list 4096 2010-04-13 10:27 qfiles lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2010-04-13 10:08 scripts - /usr/lib/mailman/scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2009-06-01 05:35 spam lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2010-04-13 10:08 templates - /etc/mailman -rw-r--r-- 1 root list 11 2009-06-01 05:36 .version c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ ls -al /usr/lib/mailman/ | more total 36 drwxr-xr-x 7 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 . drwxr-xr-x 60 root root 12288 2010-04-26 08:47 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 cron drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 mail drwxr-xr-x 11 root list 4096 2010-04-13 11:43 Mailman drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2010-04-13 10:08 scripts QUESTION TWO: Postfix is not starting (see below). How can I fix this? c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ sudo tail /var/log/mail.log Apr 30 10:39:03 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Apr 30 10:40:03 lists postfix/smtpd[1845]: fatal: open database /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db: Invalid argument Apr 30 10:40:04 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1845 exit status 1 Apr 30 10:40:04 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Apr 30 10:41:04 lists postfix/smtpd[1848]: fatal: open database /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db: Invalid argument Apr 30 10:41:05 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1848 exit status 1 Apr 30 10:41:05 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Apr 30 10:42:05 lists postfix/smtpd[1851]: fatal: open database /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db: Invalid argument Apr 30 10:42:06 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1851 exit status 1 Apr 30 10:42:06 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ Thank you, Davis Lee WAN Administrator Albuquerque Public Schools 505 830 6870
Re: [Mailman-Users] Thank you -- Help with migration
Lee, Davis H wrote: Two more questions. QUESTION ONE: Checkperms doesn't change the group owner on the symlinks under /var/lib/mailman (I get the message below no matter how many times I run checkperms -f). Should I chgrp -h on those symlinks? You can, if it works in your OS (some OSs won't change ownership of symlinks at all), and it may get rid of the check_perms messages, but it doesn't really matter. check_perms doesn't deal well with symlinks, it complains about the symlink, but fixes the target, but it is only the target mode and permissions that are relevant anyway. QUESTION TWO: Postfix is not starting (see below). How can I fix this? c...@lists:/var/lib/mailman$ sudo tail /var/log/mail.log Apr 30 10:39:03 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Apr 30 10:40:03 lists postfix/smtpd[1845]: fatal: open database /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db: Invalid argument Apr 30 10:40:04 lists postfix/master[1404]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1845 exit status 1 Apparently you have hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases in Postfix main.cf alias_maps list. This is good, but either the aliases.db doesn't exist or is corrupt. You need to be sure you have MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py, and also that the Defaults.py setting POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' points to where postalias actually is and if it doesn't, put POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/correct/path/to/postalias' in mm_cfg.py. Then run Mailman's bin/genaliases to make sure that /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases and /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db are correct and in sync. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Terri Oda wrote: Thanks Larry! I've linked your once again excellent post into the Mac OS FAQ on the wiki: http://wiki.list.org/x/O4A9 Thanks Terri. I've also asked Larry to submit a bug report against mailman-administrivia so that we can update the docs. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. As others have said, I'm not sure this is a good idea, unless your goal is to annoy your users and impede communication. But one thing that would have the side-effect of blocking a reply-to-all is changing the list settings so that the list only accepts mails if there is exactly one recipient. You can do this under Privacy Options - Recipient Filters Set Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting. to 1 Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address. Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
You can do this under Privacy Options - Recipient Filters Set Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting. to 1 Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address. But if someome sends mail to the list, and has an extra recipient in the To: or Cc:, the mail will also be held. -- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: bsfin...@anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] cgi in URLs
IIUC, In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/, like this: http://lists.aps.edu/mailman/admin The new install expects the /cgi-bin/, like this: http://lists.aps.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/admin What's the best way to fix this? Thank you, Davis Lee WAN Administrator Albuquerque Public Schools 505 830 6870 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] cgi in URLs
Lee, Davis H wrote: In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/, like this: http://lists.aps.edu/mailman/admin The new install expects the /cgi-bin/, like this: http://lists.aps.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/admin What's the best way to fix this? If your web server is Apache, it has something in its configuration like ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Change that or its equivalent in your web server to ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ You will then also find that either mm_cfg.py or Defaults.py contains DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/' If it's in mm_cfg.py, change it, or if it's in Defaults.py, override it in mm_cfg.py so you have in mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' You will then need to run fix_url to update the web_page_url attribute for existing lists (see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/mIA9). -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] cgi in URLs
Lee, Davis H wrote: In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/, What's the best way to fix this? There's a withlist script in $mailman/bin called fixurl.py -- you'll need to run it on lists to give them the appropriate new URLs. Assuming the new system is already set up with the new style of URL as the default, bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LISTNAME should do the trick (since it defaults to the, uh, default) Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] cgi in URLs
Terri Oda wrote: Lee, Davis H wrote: In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/, What's the best way to fix this? There's a withlist script in $mailman/bin called fixurl.py -- you'll need to run it on lists to give them the appropriate new URLs. Assuming the new system is already set up with the new style of URL as the default, bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LISTNAME should do the trick (since it defaults to the, uh, default) Upon rereading your the question, I see Terri's answer rather than mine is probably the one you were looking for. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
Grant suggested: To directly answer your question (and for the benefit of others searching the archives) I think the best that you will be able to do is to filter messages based on the existence of the standard reply headers (References: and In-Reply-To:) and reject the message(s). Does anyone know how to do this: Where would you setup this filter? I can't find it in the General Options or Content Filtering. Robert This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] get list of users
I do not know how to do this from a cmd prompt. The usage says: Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] hostname listname password Do I do this from a cmd prompt. What would be the syntax for my site? -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:44 AM To: Schwartz, Robert - IS; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] get list of users Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: How can you get a list of all user's and addresses exported to .csv or .xls from the web. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/aYA9 which, among other things will point you to the script at http://www.msapiro.net/mailman-subscribers.py which runs on your workstation and can generate a .csv from the web admin interface. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List all users on one page
This is the same question I have. I don't know how to use to script in Windows XP. I only use to web to get to my mail. Nothing is saved on my system. Re: [Mailman-Users] List all users on one page Mark Sapiro Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:10:41 -0700 Brian Luria Where is the best place for me to start understanding terminal commands like you list there. I am honestly not even sure where to start. I am only used to the web based interface. The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/z4A9 lists the commands and what they do. Each command has a --help option that gives the usage and options for the command. The two most useful commands for manipulating non GUI things or things for all lists at once are bin/withlist and bin/config_list. Withlist can run Python scripts against one or all lists and can invoke an interactive Python interpreter with a list instance that can be examined and changed interactively, but this requires both Python knowledge and some knowledge of Mailman internals. bin/config_list is more friendly. For example, in this case you would just create a file containing the single line admin_member_chunksize = 100 or whatever number you need, and run bin/config_list --inputfile /path/to/above/file listname This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
That didn't work because the first message sent will go to yourself and the mailing list which will be blocked. If you tell it not to send it to yourself, the first message will send. If you try to reply to all to this message it will also be sent because the reply to will only have the member list. Robert P. Schwartz CAS, Inc. A wholly owned subsidiary of ITT Corporation 100 Quality Circle Huntsville, AL 35806 Phone: 256.922.4203 Fax: 256.922.4243 E-mail: robert.schwa...@itt.com -Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+robert.schwartz=itt@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+robert.schwartz=itt@python.org] On Behalf Of Terri Oda Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:03 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. As others have said, I'm not sure this is a good idea, unless your goal is to annoy your users and impede communication. But one thing that would have the side-effect of blocking a reply-to-all is changing the list settings so that the list only accepts mails if there is exactly one recipient. You can do this under Privacy Options - Recipient Filters Set Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting. to 1 Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address. Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/robert.schwartz%40itt.com This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
Maybe I can put a message at the top of every mail being send Do not do a reply all. How do you do this? Robert P. Schwartz Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message. As others have said, I'm not sure this is a good idea, unless your goal is to annoy your users and impede communication. But one thing that would have the side-effect of blocking a reply-to-all is changing the list settings so that the list only accepts mails if there is exactly one recipient. You can do this under Privacy Options - Recipient Filters Set Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting. to 1 Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address. Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/robert.schwartz%40itt.com This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Using the command line (was Re: List all users on one page)
There are quite a variety of tutorials, all of which are rather out of scope for this list. Search for command line tutorial or somesuch in google and you'll find plenty of links. Here's one for linux: http://www.linuxcommand.org/ And here's for windows: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial76.html (I haven't used either of those, since I learned the command line several decades ago, but at a glance they look reasonable.) If those don't suit, many local libraries and colleges can introduce you to someone who can do one-on-one training, assuming you're willing to pay for an hour of someone's time. Terri Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: This is the same question I have. I don't know how to use to script in Windows XP. I only use to web to get to my mail. Nothing is saved on my system. Re: [Mailman-Users] List all users on one page Mark Sapiro Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:10:41 -0700 Brian Luria Where is the best place for me to start understanding terminal commands like you list there. I am honestly not even sure where to start. I am only used to the web based interface. The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/z4A9 lists the commands and what they do. Each command has a --help option that gives the usage and options for the command. The two most useful commands for manipulating non GUI things or things for all lists at once are bin/withlist and bin/config_list. Withlist can run Python scripts against one or all lists and can invoke an interactive Python interpreter with a list instance that can be examined and changed interactively, but this requires both Python knowledge and some knowledge of Mailman internals. bin/config_list is more friendly. For example, in this case you would just create a file containing the single line admin_member_chunksize = 100 or whatever number you need, and run bin/config_list --inputfile /path/to/above/file listname This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/terri%40zone12.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List all users on one page
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: This is the same question I have. I don't know how to use to script in Windows XP. I only use to web to get to my mail. Nothing is saved on my system. Did you see my initial reply in that thread at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-April/069315.html? If not, see it. If you did see that and you can't do this from the web admin interface, your Mailman must be 2.1.9 or older. If that is the case, and as it appears, it is hosted on a server that you don't have command line access to, then you have no way to change admin_member_chunksize from it's default value to get all the members on one page. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block reply to all
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Grant suggested: To directly answer your question (and for the benefit of others searching the archives) I think the best that you will be able to do is to filter messages based on the existence of the standard reply headers (References: and In-Reply-To:) and reject the message(s). Does anyone know how to do this: Where would you setup this filter? I can't find it in the General Options or Content Filtering. It's Privacy options... - Spam filters - header_filter_rules -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] get list of users
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: I do not know how to do this from a cmd prompt. The usage says: Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] hostname listname password Do I do this from a cmd prompt. What would be the syntax for my site? You first need to download and install Python on your Windows XP box. The windows installer for Python 2.6.5 is at http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.6.5/python-2.6.5.msi Then, if your list's web admin interface were for example http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/listname, you would at a cmd prompt type cd (the folder where you saved mailman-subscribers.py) python mailman-subscribers.py -c -o output-file.csv www.example.com listname password The last line starting with python and ending with password is all one line, not wrapped as here. output-file.csv is the name of the file to receive the csv and password is the list's admin password. You might also need to use the -u option if the admin interface URL is not of the above form. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org