Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?

2012-02-07 Thread Stefan P. Wolf (NassRasur.com)


Mark Sapiro wrote:


I do not understand why this would be true? How does your MUA know that
the list address is or is not a 'mail user' on your system?


My MUA does not know about the server, my MUA knows about its
own mail profiles. If mails are addressed to the list and come
in on my PC and I hit reply then the MUA looks if it has a
mail profile with the very same email address. But if I can not
use this email address for *sending* because I can not create
this user on my server then this profile is useless and I have
to create a different sending address which is not selected by the
MUA automatically (instead the default mail profile is selected).

In the meantime I found out that despite the error message from
PLESK the mail user with the same name as the mailing address
was created anyway! It seems I get it to work...


Best regards, Stefan.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 9

2012-02-07 Thread Stefan P. Wolf (NassRasur.com)


Richard Damon wrote:


You can set up a profile in your MUA with the address of the mailing
list without the MTA having an account by that address.


That's interesting, will try that as well because it's much
more reliable than fiddling around PLESK errors which might
always lead to trouble in future updates! Thanks!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?

2012-02-07 Thread Larry Stone

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012, Stefan P. Wolf (NassRasur.com) wrote:



Mark Sapiro wrote:


I do not understand why this would be true? How does your MUA know that
the list address is or is not a 'mail user' on your system?


My MUA does not know about the server, my MUA knows about its
own mail profiles. If mails are addressed to the list and come
in on my PC and I hit reply then the MUA looks if it has a
mail profile with the very same email address.


I think there are a couple of issues that are leaving many of us confused. 
Why do you want to reply to email addressed to the list as the list rather 
than as you. That is not the way lists are normally used (e.g. I am 
replying to mail sent to this list as myself, not as the list).



But if I can not
use this email address for *sending* because I can not create
this user on my server then this profile is useless and I have
to create a different sending address which is not selected by the
MUA automatically (instead the default mail profile is selected).


Why does the list email address have to exist as a local user for you to 
send as it? Is your mail server doing a check to prevent mail being sent 
as from a non-existant user? While such checks (misguided in many cases, 
IMHO) can be set in many mail servers, it's not the default from my 
experience. If you have such checks, are they really needed? I don't 
recall if you described your environment but if it's one where you know 
all the users (as opposed to a public ISP), you probably don't need such 
checks.


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[Mailman-Users] Coworking member mailing list - help!

2012-02-07 Thread Susan Evans
Hello fine Mailman Users!

I am one of the owners  operators of Office Nomadshttp://officenomads.com/,
a coworking http://coworking.com space in Seattle, WA. We have been using
Mailman to manage our internal member mailing list for several years, to
enable our members to contact one another about job postings, events going
on, and requests for help. It's a fantastic system that is easy to use, but
we're running up against a challenge: we've hit the 100 member mark and
therefore don't have room for everyone on the mailing list.

We are currently hosted at Bluehost, which I recognize is the piece that is
responsible for the 100-member limit.

Do any of you have recommendations on which hosting provider might not
implement 100-member limits? The key here is that we're not looking for an
email blast list like Mailchimp. We are looking for a system to use that
enables any member to send a message to all of our members in the space.

It's one little growing pain for us, but I'd love to hear any
recommendations you all might have for how to solve the problem. I checked
through the archive of questions adn the FAQ but didn't see any
recommendations for alternate places to host our mailing list so we can
keep using Mailman.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Susan
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[Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails

2012-02-07 Thread Manuel Weiel
Hello,

I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds it 
useful:

I have written an app for moderating mails from your mailman lists.
You can add multiple lists and get an overview of all the pending moderation 
requests.
The app shows details about every mail like size, preview of the mail and 
moderation reason and you can approve/reject/discard the mail(s).

iMailModerate is available on the AppStore for 0,99$.

http://cl.ly/DyCl

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?

2012-02-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Larry Stone writes:

  Why do you want to reply to email addressed to the list as the list rather 
  than as you. That is not the way lists are normally used (e.g. I am 
  replying to mail sent to this list as myself, not as the list).

Yup.  But he explained this.  The list is the public face of a
committee, and at least some outgoing mail should appear to be from
the committee.

Whether that's a good idea or not, well, mostly I'd say not a great
idea.  But that's for him to decide.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?

2012-02-07 Thread Larry Stone

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:


Larry Stone writes:

 Why do you want to reply to email addressed to the list as the list rather
 than as you. That is not the way lists are normally used (e.g. I am
 replying to mail sent to this list as myself, not as the list).

Yup.  But he explained this.  The list is the public face of a
committee, and at least some outgoing mail should appear to be from
the committee.


I must have missed where he mentioned that.

I started to wonder about about setting it as an anonymous list but that 
would affect all posts - both from user to the committee as well as 
responses from the committee. But maybe something could be done with two 
lists - one for the users to send to that is normal and a second that the 
committee replies via that is anonymous and has the main list as its only 
member (I think this is an umbrella list but having never used umbrella 
lists, I'm unsure).


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[Mailman-Users] Setting hard limit on message size for mailman

2012-02-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva

Is there a setting I could use to limit the size of a message mailman will 
process, that even a list owner can't approve to get around ?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] List not sending out a welcome message

2012-02-07 Thread Brian Carpenter

On 2/6/2012 5:57 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Brian Carpenter wrote:

I have one list that is not sending out it's welcome message to new
subscribers and password reminder to its list members. All of the other
lists on the server are. I assume it's a db issue but could be wrong.
Any suggestion on where to look at what the problem could be?


Are the list's General Options settings send_reminders and
send_welcome_message set to Yes?

If so, you could visit the various member options pages via the email
address links on the Membership Management... -  Membership List pages
and verify that their Get password reminder email for this list?
settings are not all No. If they are all No, do

bin/config_list -o - LISTNAME | grep new_member_options

convert the decimal integer you see to binary and see if it contains
the 0010 (2^5 = 32) bit which is the option to supress password
reminder. If it does, also check mm_cfg.py for a
DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS setting containing this bit.

If all of the above indicates reminders and welcome messages should be
sent, try running 'cron/mailpasswds -l LISTNAME' and subscribing a new
member and check Mailman's 'smtp' log and the MTA logs to see if the
messages are being sent and what's happening to them.


Thanks Mark for the reply. It turned out having the Send password 
reminders to, eg, -owner address instead of directly to user.  set to 
yes on the General Options page caused the welcome message and password 
reminder message from being sent out. Changing it to no fixed it.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Manuel Weiel wrote:

I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds 
it useful:


I think I could find it useful if it were for android. Any thoughts
about an android app?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting hard limit on message size for mailman

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher X. Candreva wrote:

Is there a setting I could use to limit the size of a message mailman will 
process, that even a list owner can't approve to get around ?


You could do this with a custom handler http://wiki.list.org/x/l4A9,
but short of something like that there is no setting or configuration
option for this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Coworking member mailing list - help!

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Susan Evans wrote:

Do any of you have recommendations on which hosting provider might not
implement 100-member limits?


See http://wiki.list.org/display/COM/Mailman+hosting+services.

In particular, one of the principals of EMWD and Mailmanhost.com is
active on this list and seems highly conscientious about supporting
Mailman.

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