Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/6/2015 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: It's not just the popup windows. It's not just the sites that hijack the right-click menu. It's not just the autoplay videos. It's not even the browser crashes! (Mostly Opera, Firefox seems a bit more stable.) Any one of them

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 06:50:55AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 4/6/2015 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: It's not just the popup windows. It's not just the sites that hijack the right-click menu. It's not just the autoplay videos. It's not even the browser crashes!

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: I'm not happy when web sites *demand* that you run their untrusted and untrustworthy code in your computer before you can see the content. How do you currently see the HTML content before it is interpreted by your

[Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix: suddenly no delivery logs

2015-04-07 Thread Danil Smirnov
I've just send new post to my list and I see that postfix got in and transfer to mailman script: cat /var/log/maillog | grep li...@domain.net Apr 7 15:45:18 host1 postfix/local[32043]: 15439A403A1: to=list1-domain@domain.com, orig_to=li...@domain.net, relay=local, delay=0.75,

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix: suddenly no delivery logs

2015-04-07 Thread Danil Smirnov
Logs found in /var/lib/mailman/logs - everything is okay with them. Wrong anti-spam configuration is also found: I have to put permit_mynetworks before any reject_... entries. p.s. Why a solution always comes right after help message was sent to the list? 2015-04-07 16:22 GMT+03:00 Danil

[Mailman-Users] Will slices ever become permanent?

2015-04-07 Thread Jeff Taylor
I've been running the modified slice code (three slice servers plus one backup server) for the past couple years, and generally speaking it has run perfectly. However every now and then I find that mailman is suddenly not running on any of the servers, with no helpful information showing in

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Teijo
6.4.2015, 2:17, David Andrews kirjoitti: A reminder that any web UI, whether end user, or administrator, needs to be accessible to disabled persons -- preferably it will use the WCAG 2.0 AA standards. Have developers of Mailman 3 default web Ui kept this important point in mind? Best,

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
Sorry if I enter now in the thread at an arbitrary point. Sincerely I'm rather happy with the *current* mailman interface, and in particular I'm used to it. Considered that there should be quite a large base of mailman lists around, that they are unlikely to migrate to a new UI soon, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Bill Cole mailmanu-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com: On 6 Apr 2015, at 20:02, Andrew Stuart wrote: Sounds like not working with JavaScript is something important to you. What’s the thinking behind wanting to work without JavaScript? Isn’t it kinda hard to navigate the modern web

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Bill Cole
On 6 Apr 2015, at 20:02, Andrew Stuart wrote: Sounds like not working with JavaScript is something important to you. What’s the thinking behind wanting to work without JavaScript? Isn’t it kinda hard to navigate the modern web without JavaScript? I don't know the original poster's

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Steven Clift
As someone who raised this issue 15 years ago and was seriously rebuffed with lots of notes that said essentially this is a mailing list and not a web forum I then started looking elsewhere. Anyway, my NGO has put a lot into our web interface for our primarily email based set of neighborhood

Re: [Mailman-Users] Will slices ever become permanent?

2015-04-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/07/2015 08:09 AM, Jeff Taylor wrote: I've been running the modified slice code (three slice servers plus one backup server) for the past couple years, and generally speaking it has run perfectly. However every now and then I find that mailman is suddenly not running on any of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Will slices ever become permanent?

2015-04-07 Thread Jeff Taylor
Well that's a shame that there hasn't been any more interest. I have a file documenting the changes needed, which are pretty simple, so if any interest is expressed in this thread I'll share the details. It could be that folks don't know the option exists, but you were a great help to me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Will slices ever become permanent?

2015-04-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 07, 2015, at 02:15 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote: Well that's a shame that there hasn't been any more interest. I have a file documenting the changes needed, which are pretty simple, so if any interest is expressed in this thread I'll share the details. Any chance you could file a bug (tagged

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Andrews writes: A reminder that any web UI, whether end user, or administrator, needs to be accessible to disabled persons -- preferably it will use the WCAG 2.0 AA standards. We do use industrial-strength web frameworks, mostly Django. To the extent they support the

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 08:31:04AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: I'm not happy when web sites *demand* that you run their untrusted and untrustworthy code in your computer before you can see the content. How do you

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread David Andrews
At 07:26 PM 4/7/2015, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: David Andrews writes: A reminder that any web UI, whether end user, or administrator, needs to be accessible to disabled persons -- preferably it will use the WCAG 2.0 AA standards. We do use industrial-strength web frameworks, mostly

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread JB
Not kicking anyone's cat here but if the ADA applies to web sites then NO WEB PAGE EVER should be allowed to utilize that HORRIBLE 'flat' design strategy. Pages such as the new ESPN page are EXTREMELY difficult to read and sue for people who have vision and reading disabilities. Having said