[Mailman-Users] Re: Flooded with signup requests

2022-07-29 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 7/29/22 02:02, Max wrote:


I would have expected that Mailman shows the user/bot a message saying: 
Hey simon1...@gmail.com, you already have a pending signup request, 
please be patient while the moderators are reviewing your request.



Mailman 3 does this. The message is not so gracious, just "Subscription 
request already pending", but this is not the case with Mailman 2.1. 
While it would be possible in MM 2.1 to check the `pending` and 
`requests` data for an existing request before accepting a new one, MM 
2.1 is EOL and won't be changed to do this.



--
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
--
Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/
   https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Managing Lists Remotely

2022-07-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users writes:

 > We're looking at options to manage our mailman3 lists programmatically from
 > a saas platform we offer.
 > 
 > The rest api seems like the way to go, but almost everything I read
 > about it says do not expose this publicly.

Use a dedicated encrypted tunnel from the saas platform to the list
host.  As long as that goes directly to Mailman's REST port, I don't
see why the management would have a problem.  Unless you're sharing
the Mailman instance---but if that's a problem I don't think they'd
give you REST access either.

Steve

--
Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Flooded with signup requests

2022-07-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Max writes:

 > I would have expected that Mailman shows the user/bot a message saying: 
 > Hey simon1...@gmail.com, you already have a pending signup request, 
 > please be patient while the moderators are reviewing your request.

I don't think that information is readily available to the
subscription request handler.  The database Mailman 2 uses is simple
and foolproof for its own purposes: each request is processed
immediately, any emails etc are sent, and the request ends up in a
file with a unique name ordered by time of receipt.

It wouldn't be hard to keep an auxiliary database with request
addresses in it so we could easily check for duplicates, but it
doesn't simplify things very much because both moderators and
subscribers lose mail, either by mistake or because they have a strict
filter.  So we'll just send another confirmation response anyway
because there's a good chance that they didn't get the first.

Obviously that doesn't apply to the kind of attack your site is
facing, but it's very unusual for a list to be attacked this way in my
experience.

 > Instead all moderators get the same signup request email from the same 
 > email address every minute for hours.

In 'General Options' set admin_immed_notify to No, and only one mail
will be sent per day.

Steve

--
Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Flooded with signup requests

2022-07-29 Thread Max

On 29.07.22 06:04, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

  > How can I at least stop the bots from repeated signups with the
  > same email?

This is the Internet; you can't stop them.  The best Mailman can do
for you is put the address on the ban list.


I would have expected that Mailman shows the user/bot a message saying: 
Hey simon1...@gmail.com, you already have a pending signup request, 
please be patient while the moderators are reviewing your request.


Instead all moderators get the same signup request email from the same 
email address every minute for hours.


:o
--
Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/
   https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/