[Mailman-Users] Listreminder without PWs

2002-02-03 Thread Matthias Jaenichen

Hi,

As we have chosen to use SSL with the Mailman-Interface it would be nice to 
get more protection for the passwords.

1.) How can we send the list reminders without the PWs?

2.) How can we limit User- and Listadministration from WEB only (no e-mail)?

3.) What about the e-mail itself? Any ideas, how to encrypt the e-mails, so 
that non-list-members will not be able to read them?

4.) Certainly there are more steps to be taken to make MailMan more secure. 
We have already chosen QMail, Apache and RSBAC to protect the system but 
are there any plans/implementations to improve MailMan in such direction?

Reg.

Matthias Jänichen


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request

2002-02-03 Thread Matthias Jaenichen

At 17:34 01.02.02 +0100, René Nieuwburg wrote:
I don't know what happened since version 2.06, but could you consider 
adding some archival options:

- Other archive formats like zip.(somehow my WinRar does not read the 
format while it usually does).

- The ability to archive Text-only, or HTML. It will be hard to explain to 
some to put their email program in text - only. Result is an unreadable 
code. Do you know of any utility to convert it into plain text or HTML?

even if you use TEXT, but have nonstandard chars in the text/subject like 
äöü the archives become unreadable.

I think the problem here is that the format it is stored in the archives is 
the only transportable one. If we strip html, the message might loose 
significant information, if we transform into something Windows-readable it 
might not readable by MACs or UNIX.

BUT I agree for the Web-Interface: to view the archives the mails must be 
transformed into something readable.

Reg.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] question

2002-02-03 Thread Matthias Jaenichen

At 09:08 02.02.02 -0800, women wrote:
Hello I was wondering how many subscribers can this program handle? Do you 
know anyone with a big list. I have 61,000 and was wondering if it can 
handle it without timing out and how long would it take to send it out? James

I'd say: As Mailman works in batch-mode and uses the underlaying 
Mail-Program (qmail?) to send out the mails the question would rather be 
HOW to HANDLE that amount of users!!

What Q-Mail does if it gets a batch (or several batches) of 61.000 Mails at 
a time just depends on your infrastructure.

For handling that amout of users you could perhaps use MailMans 
Umbrella-List-Feature and split the Users on different sublist. Perhaps 
handling these sublist on different systems could also help to adress the 
above problem.


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[Mailman-Users] Bug against Mozilla?

2002-02-03 Thread Erik van der Meulen

Hi - I have just installed Mailman 1.2.4 (thanks to the support on this
list!) and I have come across the following:

If I hit the 'send' button after composing a mail, I get the hour glass
and that never goes away. The message does get send in the background,
but the compose window remains.
This happens in Mozilla 0.9.7, in the MS flavours I have checked this
functions as one would expect.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug against Mozilla? - Please ignore

2002-02-03 Thread Erik van der Meulen

On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:52:48 +0100, Erik van der Meulen wrote:

 Hi - I have just installed Mailman 1.2.4 (thanks to the support on this
 list!) and I have come across the following:

Oops - please ignore previous post, it was supposed to go to the
Squirrelmail-list - Sorry

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[Mailman-Users] Bug in Subject-Routine

2002-02-03 Thread Matthias Jaenichen

Hi,

I found a bug and would like to know how to patch:

a subject with a special Character like äöü German Umlate causes the 
subject to look like this on repeated replies:

Subject: [Test] Re: [Test] Re: [Test] hallöle mit Umlaut

Any ideas?
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[Mailman-Users] mailman setup

2002-02-03 Thread sunny

I am not able to continue...as i have executed 
make install  on a solaris 2.8,and when i try
accessing webservername.domain/mailman it says file
not found...pls help..
regs
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup

2002-02-03 Thread Kelemen Zoltan

Idzet sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am not able to continue...as i have executed 
 make install  on a solaris 2.8,and when i try
 accessing webservername.domain/mailman it says file
 not found...pls help..

make install is not enough to do the job. You have to manually config your 
webserver too, and then some other stuff. Read INSTALL carefully... there's 
quite a lot to do :(

 zOLtaN

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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe jerry@gaberts.com from mailman listserve

2002-02-03 Thread Jerry Gabert



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Listreminder without PWs

2002-02-03 Thread Jon Carnes

On Sunday 03 February 2002 03:20, Matthias Jaenichen wrote:
 Hi,

 As we have chosen to use SSL with the Mailman-Interface it would be nice
 to get more protection for the passwords.

 1.) How can we send the list reminders without the PWs?

Remove the job out of mailman's cron that sends out the reminder.  Add your 
own message and have cron send that instead, if you want a monthly 
reminder.


 2.) How can we limit User- and Listadministration from WEB only (no
 e-mail)?

Set the list so that it does not look for Administriva, then reroute the 
list-request alias to /dev/null or to an autoresponder that sends back a 
note telling folks to use the web.


 3.) What about the e-mail itself? Any ideas, how to encrypt the e-mails,
 so that non-list-members will not be able to read them?

This is interesting...  There are actually MTA's that will do this for you 
- that will encrypt the mail leaving the server, and decrypt the mail 
coming to the server.  
You could also run the mail bodies through a pre-processor that encrypted 
the bodies using something like gpg.  Procmail will allow you to do this.   
For it to work properly, you will need to have a savvy user group.  They 
will have to be smart enough to decrypt the message on their end.


 4.) Certainly there are more steps to be taken to make MailMan more
 secure. We have already chosen QMail, Apache and RSBAC to protect the
 system but are there any plans/implementations to improve MailMan in such
 direction?

I can't speak for the direction of Mailman.  It's open source though, so 
feel free to pull it in the direction you would like to see it go.  All 
contributions are accepted.

Jon Carnes

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman bug

2002-02-03 Thread Stephen McKeown

Hi all,

When I try to access my list info page, or any other list page or admin
page, I get the following error:

Bug in Mailman version 2.0

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.


This just started. I buy my hosting from a company, and they have great
support, but I haven't heard back yet on this one so I thought it might help
if I could give them some pointers on what to do. Or if you could suggest a
solution I could do myself.

Many thanks,
Stephen


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request

2002-02-03 Thread Matthias Jaenichen

At 17:34 01.02.02 +0100, René Nieuwburg wrote:
I don't know what happened since version 2.06, but could you consider 
adding some archival options:

- Other archive formats like zip.(somehow my WinRar does not read the 
format while it usually does).

- The ability to archive Text-only, or HTML. It will be hard to explain to 
some to put their email program in text - only. Result is an unreadable 
code. Do you know of any utility to convert it into plain text or HTML?

even if you use TEXT, but have nonstandard chars in the text/subject like 
äöü the archives become unreadable.

I think the problem here is that the format it is stored in the archives is 
the only transportable one. If we strip html, the message might loose 
significant information, if we transform into something Windows-readable it 
might not readable by MACs or UNIX.

BUT I agree for the Web-Interface: to view the archives the mails must be 
transformed into something readable.

Reg.


Matthias Jänichen
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[Mailman-Users] feature request

2002-02-03 Thread Michel Lewinger

Hi there. We use MailMan (I concede the correct spelling to you !!!), and
I'm quite happy with all the options. Very comprehensive package.

I'd like to suggest the addition of an attachment filter that allows only
a list of administrator's explicitly defined file types to pass, i.e.,
thus avoiding the sending of e-mail virii to the list.

Cheers,

Miki Lewinger
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Israel


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[Mailman-Users] Re: [SM-USERS] Bug against Mozilla?

2002-02-03 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst

 If I hit the 'send' button after composing a mail, I get the hour glass
 and that never goes away. The message does get send in the background,
 but the compose window remains.
 This happens in Mozilla 0.9.7, in the MS flavours I have checked this
 functions as one would expect.

This is a bug in Mozilla 0.9.7 which has been fixed in more recent nightly
builds.


Thijs Kinkhorst



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[Mailman-Users] Re: [SM-USERS] Bug against Mozilla?

2002-02-03 Thread Ivan F. Poddubny

On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Erik van der Meulen wrote:

 Hi - I have just installed Mailman 1.2.4 (thanks to the support on this
 list!) and I have come across the following:

 If I hit the 'send' button after composing a mail, I get the hour glass
 and that never goes away. The message does get send in the background,
 but the compose window remains.
 This happens in Mozilla 0.9.7, in the MS flavours I have checked this
 functions as one would expect.

This is well-known Mozilla 0.9.7 bug. Check buglist on Mozilla.org for
more information. Workarond -- downgrade to 0.9.6 or use Opera/IE.

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[Mailman-Users] MySQL back end to Mailman?

2002-02-03 Thread Chris Hedemark

Boy is it hard doing a search for this stuff because of the infrastructural
uses of both components causing their names to be archived in many totally
unrelated places...

A little birdy said that Mailman was going to support a MySQL back end in
2.1.  Is this true?  If so I can't find anything about that on the Mailman
web site.  Where can I learn more about this?  And how close is it to being
ready for general consumption?

Reason I ask is I am currently building a PHP system for managing clubs and
would like to use Mailman as the mailing list manager instead of having to
waste lots of time reinventing the wheel and coming up short.  The
membership database will be kept in MySQL which I would like Mailman to use.

Thanks,
Chris



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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and LDAP

2002-02-03 Thread Henry Lu



Hi,
My company's mailing list data is stored in LDAP. 
Can I use Mailman to manage the mailing list data in LDAP? If yes, 
how?
Thanks
Henry



[Mailman-Users] hello Mailmen and Mailwomen

2002-02-03 Thread brenda and fred



I was just checking out Mailman to see if its 
suitable for our organisation
where can I get a look at the administrative 
interface (whithout installing it myself)?
does it support headers and footers?
can it filter atachments if wanted?
can anyone be bothered answering a lot of stupid 
questions about it?
thanks
fred


Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman bug

2002-02-03 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Stephen McKeown wrote:

 This just started. I buy my hosting from a company, and they have great
 support, but I haven't heard back yet on this one so I thought it might help
 if I could give them some pointers on what to do. Or if you could suggest a
 solution I could do myself.

There's nothing we can do without being able to look at the logs.  This is 
something your hosting company needs to resolve.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and LDAP

2002-02-03 Thread Jon Carnes

Install the alpha version 2.1.  It allows you to use an external database 
for the mailling list.

Jon Carnes
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On Sunday 03 February 2002 16:16, Henry Lu wrote:
 Hi,
 My company's mailing list data is stored in LDAP. Can I use Mailman to
 manage the mailing list data in LDAP? If yes, how? Thanks
 Henry


Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Description: 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] MySQL back end to Mailman?

2002-02-03 Thread Jon Carnes

Hay Chris!

AFAIK, Mailman 2.1 is not going to be fixed to use any particular external 
database, but will have the hooks to use any external database.  Someone, 
perhaps you, will have to write the interface from Mailman to the database 
format.  

Someone may have already written such an interface for MySQL.  If they 
haven't yet, I'm sure it will come soon.  You should ask on the Dev list 
though, as this list is only for current production releases.

Good luck, and if you need any help in re-inventing this wheel, let me 
know, I've written a few...

Jon
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On Sunday 03 February 2002 18:27, Chris Hedemark wrote:
 Boy is it hard doing a search for this stuff because of the
 infrastructural uses of both components causing their names to be
 archived in many totally unrelated places...

 A little birdy said that Mailman was going to support a MySQL back end in
 2.1.  Is this true?  If so I can't find anything about that on the
 Mailman web site.  Where can I learn more about this?  And how close is
 it to being ready for general consumption?

 Reason I ask is I am currently building a PHP system for managing clubs
 and would like to use Mailman as the mailing list manager instead of
 having to waste lots of time reinventing the wheel and coming up short. 
 The membership database will be kept in MySQL which I would like Mailman
 to use.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] hello Mailmen and Mailwomen

2002-02-03 Thread Jon Carnes

On Sunday 03 February 2002 20:56, brenda and fred wrote:
 does it support headers and footers?

Yes.

 can it filter atachments if wanted?

No.  That is a function of many other programs that work with your MTA 
(sendmail, qmail, exim, postfix,...).  For a recommended list of such 
programs see the Users list FAQ

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Re: [Mailman-Users] cookies

2002-02-03 Thread Marc MERLIN

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:54:41AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
 
 Around 9 o'clock on Feb 1, Oliver Egginger wrote:
 
  if MM-version  2.06 and browser is konqueror 
  then MM don't will work with passwords.
 
 For some reason, konqueror sends back cookies with  marks around them.

But this should mean that konqueror somehow works with mailman 2.05, right?
(I have a konqueror user complaining that it's not working either)

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[Mailman-Users] Pipermail option via browser throws an error

2002-02-03 Thread Ganesh HariHaran
Title: Pipermail option via browser throws an error




Hi all

So long!!

I get an error when clicking the Go to list archieve from the admin
interface.

Bug in Mailman version 2.0.8

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited,
but the
webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. 

My error log file says like this..
admin(6872): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(6872):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/local/apache/htdocs/
admin(6872):SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.0.11
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip
admin(6872):SERVER_PORT: 80
admin(6872):PATH_TRANSLATED:
/usr/local/apache/htdocs/public//general/
admin(6872):REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.0.11
admin(6872):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) ApacheJServ/1.1.1
PHP/4.0.
1pl2
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en
admin(6872):REMOTE_PORT: 2218
admin(6872):SERVER_NAME: ganeshh.naturesoft.com
admin(6872):HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive
admin(6872):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux
2.2.14-12 i686
)
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg,
image/pjpeg
, image/png, */*
admin(6872):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/archives/public//general/
admin(6872):QUERY_STRING:
admin(6872):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/archives
admin(6872):PATH_INFO: /public//general/
admin(6872):HTTP_HOST: ganeshh.naturesoft.com
admin(6872):REQUEST_METHOD: GET
admin(6872):SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.12 Server at
ganeshh.natur
esoft.com Port 80/ADDRESS

admin(6872):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/archives
admin(6872):SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(6872):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(6872):PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman
admin(6872):HTTP_COOKIE:
general:admin=2802006989155e3c7328003832616
5613837613566363530613961383031636530336239313364343731386337663430636166
admin(6872):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.0
admin(6872):HTTP_REFERER:
http://ganeshh.naturesoft.com/mailman/admin/general
^[[B   
  


Please Advice
Regards
Ganeshh 




[Mailman-Users] Pipermail option via browser throws an error

2002-02-03 Thread Ganesh HariHaran
Title: Pipermail option via browser throws an error




Hi all

So long!!

I get an error when clicking the Go to list archieve from the admin
interface.

Bug in Mailman version 2.0.8

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited,
but the
webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. 

My error log file says like this..
admin(6872): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(6872):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/local/apache/htdocs/
admin(6872):SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.0.11
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip
admin(6872):SERVER_PORT: 80
admin(6872):PATH_TRANSLATED:
/usr/local/apache/htdocs/public//general/
admin(6872):REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.0.11
admin(6872):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) ApacheJServ/1.1.1
PHP/4.0.
1pl2
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en
admin(6872):REMOTE_PORT: 2218
admin(6872):SERVER_NAME: ganeshh.naturesoft.com
admin(6872):HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive
admin(6872):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux
2.2.14-12 i686
)
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8
admin(6872):HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg,
image/pjpeg
, image/png, */*
admin(6872):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/archives/public//general/
admin(6872):QUERY_STRING:
admin(6872):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/archives
admin(6872):PATH_INFO: /public//general/
admin(6872):HTTP_HOST: ganeshh.naturesoft.com
admin(6872):REQUEST_METHOD: GET
admin(6872):SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.12 Server at
ganeshh.natur
esoft.com Port 80/ADDRESS

admin(6872):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/archives
admin(6872):SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(6872):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(6872):PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman
admin(6872):HTTP_COOKIE:
general:admin=2802006989155e3c7328003832616
5613837613566363530613961383031636530336239313364343731386337663430636166
admin(6872):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.0
admin(6872):HTTP_REFERER:
http://ganeshh.naturesoft.com/mailman/admin/general
^[[B   
  


Please Advice
Regards
Ganeshh