Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?

2002-09-18 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:39:03 +0100 Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could someone explain to me what VERP is?? lol thanks! DJB has a page on it at cr.yp.to, -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] Emergancy Help!!!!!

2002-09-18 Thread Kevin
Everytime I run mailman from one of like 50 lists I get   Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 514. (Reconfigure to take 514?) and gid 514 changes based on which user executed this script... HOW Do I fix this please? I can't find the configuration files anywhere I have Mailman store

Re: [Mailman-Users] Amount of messages in a .mbox file

2002-09-18 Thread Jon Carnes
Just to be on the safe side I use: grep -c ^"From " .mbox To separate them by Month use something like: grep ^"From " .mbox |grep -c " Mar " The months are: Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec. Good Luck Jon Carnes On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 19:30, Moz wrote: > Danny wro

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscriber-time based automation

2002-09-18 Thread Jon Carnes
The log files record all subscriptions. You could easily write some scripts to parse the log files (~mailman/logs/..) nightly and send your automated messages. Good Luck On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 16:39, Davin Dahlgren wrote: > Does Mailman have the ability to automatically send a pre-written > mes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Amount of messages in a .mbox file

2002-09-18 Thread Moz
Danny wrote: > I have a .mbox file of 890Mb in size. I want to know how many >messages are in it and how much messages per month. Can someone help >me to write a shell script? Each message starts with a line like "From [EMAIL PROTECTED]", so you can just count those. Divide by months in file to

[Mailman-Users] Amount of messages in a .mbox file

2002-09-18 Thread Danny Terweij
Hi guys, I have a .mbox file of 890Mb in size. I want to know how many messages are in it and how much messages per month. Can someone help me to write a shell script? Thanx! Danny Terweij (Mm2.1b2 user) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EM

Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Peter Tattersall
I inadvertently ran into another approach to blocking unsubscription. I recently added subscribers using a dump from a database list which I manually edited to remove some extraneous characters. I didn't look hard enough: there were a couple of null (and therefore invisible) characters at the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Moz
Nathan wrote: > ability to block unsubscribing from a list. We have a number of > required campus mailing lists that our users must remain subscribed > to at all times. As far as I know, you can unsubscribe by: sending email to -unsubscribe@... or by using the web form. A little judicious editin

RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Nathan Beittenmiller
Naturally we don't use beta software in our production environment unless we: A.) Have no choice or B.) Have sufficiently tested it. Mailman is currently being installed on a test box that may become live if we determine it to be an acceptable replacement (which is looking good at the moment). To

Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Tom Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tom Ryan wrote: > > > > > The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block > > > unsubscribe requests. However, you can't block the user

[Mailman-Users] subscriber-time based automation

2002-09-18 Thread Davin Dahlgren
Does Mailman have the ability to automatically send a pre-written message to subscribers based on their length-of-subscription? For example, we would like to send one message to each subscriber after they have been with us for a week, then a different message after they have been subscribed for a

RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Tom Ryan
Sorry, I should have clarified that.. however, doesn't Barry need at least *some* people to run the beta under load to help iron out the problems :) Needless to say, I am one of those persons :) Tom On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tom Ryan wrote: > > > The

RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread mailman
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tom Ryan wrote: > The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block unsubscribe > requests. However, you can't block the users setting "nomail", etc. > > Seems we're almost there, just not quite :) Please note however, Nathan, the use of the word "beta" in Tom's reply

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?

2002-09-18 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:39:03 +0100 "Angel Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could someone explain to me what VERP is?? lol thanks! Variable envelope return paths http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt -- Raquel Men occasionally stumble ov

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?

2002-09-18 Thread mailman
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Angel Gabriel wrote: > Could someone explain to me what VERP is?? lol thanks! I had to go looking myself after reading the recent e-mails; here is some of what I found: http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt http://www.cyberdesk.com/qmail/qmail-queue.html http://www.stllinux.

[Mailman-Users] vhosts?

2002-09-18 Thread Paul Reilly
Does anyone have a quick howto on how to configure mailman for many virtual hosts? couldn't see it in the faq... thanks Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing content before approving message

2002-09-18 Thread Kory Wheatley
Jon Carnes wrote: > Do you have root (or mailman command line) access on the box? If so, > then you can simply edit the waiting file in the queue. It's very > simple and works every time. > > Otherwise, there are some older patches - which probably still work - > that allow you to edit the me

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?

2002-09-18 Thread Angel Gabriel
Could someone explain to me what VERP is?? lol thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry A. Warsaw Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:17 PM To: J C Lawrence Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How

RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TR" == Tom Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TR> The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block TR> unsubscribe requests. However, you can't block the users TR> setting "nomail", etc. TR> Seems we're almost there, just not quite :) I hadn't thought about that, b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accidental deletion of archives (recreate archive "structure"?)

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TH" == Tor Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> As long as you still have the .mbox file, you can recreate the >> Pipermail archive by running bin/arch. TH> no; all i have is the list configurations, and member TH> database. TH> would i need to recreate the lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mime stripping in 2.1b3 (more..)

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JSC" == Jay S Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JSC> Oh, Barry We need a "list stats" page that displays the JSC> current list performance/tasks completed - like pflogsumm.pl JSC> for postfix. Great idea! Care to write a patch? :) -Barry --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JCL" == J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> ... I'm not sure if future versions will. JCL> v2.1 Improves on this situation significantly -- not to the JCL> level of full VERP, but close. Bounce detection is of course only half the game. MM2.1 significantly improves

RE: [Mailman-Users] some users not getting posted email message

2002-09-18 Thread Jon Carnes
You should go ahead and upgrade to the latest version of Mailman (v2.0.13). Also, you can edit the file ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py and modify the value for: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 and change it to 1 SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1 This will leave a trace for each individual email on the list. You only nee

[Mailman-Users] Searchable archives

2002-09-18 Thread Davin Dahlgren
Are the searchable archives for the mailman-users list a standard feature of Mailman, or is there an add-on that needs to be installed? Any special configuration that is necessary? Is the archive display format configurable? Thanks, Davin --

[Mailman-Users] Mails locked, "Could not acquire qrunner lock"

2002-09-18 Thread Maria Garcia Suarez
Hi there! I am a Debian Woody admin who some days ago installed (via Debian's apt-get) Mailman 2.0.11 and yesterday, when I tried to use it I suffered of locked mails. Searching on the web I found this page: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.019.htp where someone had

Re: [Mailman-Users] Veiwing Archives Problem

2002-09-18 Thread Richard Barrett
If you ran $prefix/bin/check_perms OK then look at youf httpd.conf file. It may be that a -FollowSymLinks Option is being applied that is stopping the symbolic link in $prefix/archives/public directory to the public list's archive being followed. This is mentioned in the MM INSTALL document.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Big headers

2002-09-18 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, J C Lawrence wrote: > > I believe all of the discussion-list type servers (Mailman, listserv, > > Mercury, Majordomo, et al) use the same mechanism, so the ISPs that > > are using this technique for stopping spam will have to address > > legitimate list servers. > > Sadly, nop

RE: [Mailman-Users] some users not getting posted email message

2002-09-18 Thread Jaswinder S. Hayre
Thanks for responding, I am feeling a bit clueless as to where things are going wrong, or which application is dropping the ball. I am running qmail, and Mailman 2.0.12. I do not have any spam filtering in place (we have found, that a human being is the best filter). The members that do not rec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Big headers

2002-09-18 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:32:54 -0700 G Armour Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe that there is a setting for the number sent in a batch, but > to go from 500 (default, I think) to 1 would be an excruciating hit to > your performance. See the FAQ. The sweet spot is typically in the r

RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Tom Ryan
The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block unsubscribe requests. However, you can't block the users setting "nomail", etc. Seems we're almost there, just not quite :) tom On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Nathan Beittenmiller wrote: > About five minutes after I sent this, I came up with a so

RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Nathan Beittenmiller
About five minutes after I sent this, I came up with a solution that somewhat works. If I add users at the command line nightly (which is how I build the lists with Majordomo), they need a password to unsubscribe or change their settings. For most users, that would be a deterrent right there. U

Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:12:58 -0500 "Nathan Beittenmiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings all! > > I am currently looking into replacing Majordomo with Mailman for > our enterprise mailing list solutions. So far, I can duplicate > everything I've customized on Majordomo with default sett

[Mailman-Users] Veiwing Archives Problem

2002-09-18 Thread Mark Hanze
On the home page to Mailman, there is a link: "To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Schoolhouse-news Archives." When I click on the link I get: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pipermail/schoolhouse-news/ on this server.

[Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?

2002-09-18 Thread Nathan Beittenmiller
Greetings all! I am currently looking into replacing Majordomo with Mailman for our enterprise mailing list solutions. So far, I can duplicate everything I've customized on Majordomo with default settings in Mailman except the ability to block unsubscribing from a list. We have a number of requ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accidental deletion of archives (recreate archive "structure"?)

2002-09-18 Thread Tor Houghton
> As long as you still have the .mbox file, you can recreate the > Pipermail archive by running bin/arch. > no; all i have is the list configurations, and member database. would i need to recreate the lists from scratch? tor -- Mailman-Use

[Mailman-Users] still having problems with smrsh

2002-09-18 Thread Ísak Ben
Hi there. I ran strings on /usr/sbin/smrsh and found it it's looking in /usr/adm/sm.bin/ so i put symlinks in there pointing to the wrapperbut it did not work...i even tried to copy the wrapper itself into the directory... this is my error. Sep 18 12:07:38 gola smrsh: uid 25: attempt

Re: [Mailman-Users] Big headers

2002-09-18 Thread G. Armour Van Horn
So far, I've dealt with this entirely by getting my server whitelisted with the ISPs that are doing that. I believe that there is a setting for the number sent in a batch, but to go from 500 (default, I think) to 1 would be an excruciating hit to your performance. I believe all of the discussion

Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris install problem

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "DS" == David Sammons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> You have a module "pwd" in python2.../Modules/Setup DS> which it´s commented, just uncomment that and DS> re-compile python and if it´s necesary MM too... But the odd this is that with Python 2.2.1, it should auto-detect

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accidental deletion of archives (recreate archive "structure"?)

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TH" == Tor Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TH> I've looked through this list's archives (though there was no TH> search facility I could find, so I may have missed any posts TH> relating to my query), and I decided to subscribe and post my TH> problem here. TH> B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mime stripping in 2.1b3 (more..)

2002-09-18 Thread Jay S Curtis
Indeed he does. Good time for "selfish begging for features" Oh, Barry We need a "list stats" page that displays the current list performance/tasks completed - like pflogsumm.pl for postfix. In short: daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, inception Received: Sent: Bounced: er

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?

2002-09-18 Thread Will Yardley
JC Dill wrote: > On 07:57 PM 9/17/02, Will Yardley wrote: >> The list admin will receive the bounce message(s)... >> The current stable version of Mailman doesn't support any sort of >> automatic bounce handling; I'm not sure if future versions will. > I'm managing a list running under 2.0.13 w