[Mailman-Users] no public lists in listinfo after move

[bsweeney]

Hello all-

I'm new to this list but have been using mailman successfully for quite 
some time.  I have run into a snag, however.

I'm changing mailman servers (going from RedHat 7.1 to RedHat 7.3), and 
near as I can tell all I needed to do 
was copy the mailman folder over to the new server, make sure the apache  
and mailman GIDs remained the same, symlink the wrapper into /etc/smrsh, 
and then feed in the crontab stuff.  I did all this, and everything seems 
to work except when I go to the listinfo page, I don't get any public 
mailing lists there.  If I know the name of the list, I can get to it, and 
if I go to the admin page all the public lists are listed there, but not 
on the listinfo page.  Now on that machine if I give the apache user a 
shell account and su as it, then run the listinfo script manually, it does 
print out an html page with all the expected mailman lists.  Weird eh?

I emptied my browser so I know it's not the cache.  I know the apache 
ScriptAlias lines are correct because all the other stuff works ok (I can 
even login as an admin, or view a lists archives).

Any suggestions on where to look next?

Thanks in advance,
Brian



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Raquel Rice]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:22:19 -0500
"Victor Daniel a.k.a the MacNut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> At Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:11 -0700, "Richard B. Pyne" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Eating (a very small piece of) humble pie
> >
> >After I sent my reply, I did find the notes in bin/newlist
> >telling how to specify the domain as part of the list name (i.e.
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, the create cgi will not permit including
> >the @dom.ain in the list name and therefore defaults to the
> >default domain (which mailman appears to allow only to be the
> >domain listed in the PTR dns record for the IP address of the
> >machine).
> >
> >--Richard
> 
> Does the virtual domain have to be on the same server as the
> mailman list? Can the domain be on another server at another host
> altogether?
> 

Which machine is the MX records pointing to?  I believe that's the
one that Mailman has to be on.

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[Mailman-Users] How do I set up virtual host/domain lists on sameserver?

[Daevid Vincent]

I'm sure this has been asked a thousand times, and I have scanned the
archives a bit, but there is so many fragments and pieces. I'm amazed
that the FAQ or the mailman website don't give specific detailed
instructions how to accomplish this task. Why is that?!! Grr.

Can someone please point me at a page or thread or something that tells
me step by step how to set up various mail lists with different domains
on the same server. I am currently running RedHat 8.0 with
"mailman-2.0.13-3" rpm installed. I have some lists that work just fine
already, and I'd like to switch some of them over if possible.

For example, I have a list "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but I'd like to change it
to be "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (for example). How do I do this? My sendmail and
apache work fine for "foo.com" as virtual hosts, so what is the mailman
component?

I am a programmer, but I do not know Python per se, FWTW.

Thank you in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] need help with mm-handler contrib

[Jeff Schoby]

Hi all, newly converted majordomo heathen here

I -think- I followed the instructions right.however, for some
reason when I create the list in the web interface, the aliases don't
get added to the virtual user table and emails to the new list I create
bounce back as 'user unknown'

let me know what info you guys need.  using slackware 8.x with sendmail
and the latest stable mailman, python, and apache




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[Mailman-Users] Postfix / ldap / mailman (user unknown in local)

[Bryan Ragon]

I am trying to setup a mail server running Postfix virtual domains, with
domain and user info stored in a ldap backend.  I tried to follow the
directions in the postfix-to-mailman.py file without luck.  I like the idea
of using that script because then I don't need to worry about creating
aliases (according to it's documentation).

Accoring to the postfix-to-mailman documentation I need to add:
# /etc/postfix/main.cf:
#relay_domains = ... lists.example.com
#transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
#mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1
#
# /etc/postfix/transport:
#   lists.example.com   mailman:


I added relay_domains, mailman_destination_recipient_limit, however for the
transport, I edited my ldap entry for my lists.mydomain.com and changed it's
transport to mailman: there.




# /etc/postfix/master.cf
#mailman unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
#  flags=FR user=mailman:mailman
#  argv=/var/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${mailbox}

This I added to the master.cf.

I created the list fine, when I go to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
get this:

Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Searching with
filter (&(jvd=lists.domain.com)(objectClass=JammVirtualDomain))
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: Search
found 1 match(es)
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: search
returned 0 value(s) for requested result attribute postfixTransport
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: Leaving
dict_ldap_get_values
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Search
returned mailman:
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_lookup: lists.domain.com =
mailman:
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: In
dict_ldap_lookup
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Using existing
connection for LDAP source accounts
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Searching with
filter (&(&(objectClass=JammMailAccount)(mail=test))(accountActive=TRUE))
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: Search
found 0 match(es)
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: Leaving
dict_ldap_get_values
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Search
returned nothing
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: maps_find: test: not found
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: In
dict_ldap_lookup
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Using existing
connection for LDAP source accounts
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Searching with
filter
(&(&(objectClass=JammMailAccount)([EMAIL PROTECTED]))(accountActive=TRU
E))
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: Search
found 0 match(es)
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_get_values: Leaving
dict_ldap_get_values
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: dict_ldap_lookup: Search
returned nothing
Jan 16 17:23:25 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: maps_find: @lists.domain.com:
not found
Jan 16 17:23:26 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: mail_addr_find:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> (not found)
Jan 16 17:23:26 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: B241D11FB3: reject: RCPT from
crowders.domain.com[64.105.62.67]: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown
in local recipient table; from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proto=ESMTP
helo=
Jan 16 17:23:26 kings postfix/smtpd[32752]: >
crowders.domain.com[64.105.62.67]: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown
in local recipient table



I know this is sort of a Postfix/Mailman question, so I am unsure where to
post it.  Any ideas?  Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter

[Matthew Davis]

Quoting Kory Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I would like to discard any email that comes from the from address
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  I know you can put a filter value in the mm_cfg.py and
> that will filter mail to be held for moderation; for example,  "from:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]", but I would rather have it be automatically discarded,
> so there is no need to manually discard these emails when they are held
> for approval.
> 
> I would need this for mailman 2.0.13 and mailman 2.1

It would be smarter to put that ban in at the mailserver level.  Putting a line 
in your /etc/mail/access (if its sendmail) would be nice.  That way no 
processing of the message, less CPU consumption.

But if cannot modify the mailserver and your using mailman 2.1, putting an 
entry in reject_these_nonmembers under Privacy Options -> Sender filters will 
auto reject that address.

I don't think that mm2.0 has this auto-reject feature.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question.

[Matthew Davis]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> I am not as computer literate as I need to be. I am using Mailman through 
> Hostway and cannot figure out how to send messages to my members.
> 
> After adding my members from my previous list with another company how do I
> 
> send them monthly emails?
> 
> I am sorry if I have the wrong address, can you please help?

You might have the wrong address.  As we don't host your list, and can't really 
tell you exactly what the name of your list is.

But if you have things setup correctly on your list, you should be able to send 
a message to @ (without the <>'s of course).  Make sure the 
options are to your liking (i assume Hostway allows you access to the web admin 
pages). Then a simple message using your email program, from an address that is 
subscribed to the list, should suffice.  Then mailman should distribute that 
message to all your list members.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] passwords

[Matthew Davis]

Quoting Jeff Poretsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Is there any way to set up a list so that there are no passwords
> required for unsubscribe. Even better if the only password would be for
> the admin(s).
> 
> I need this so that someone who wants to unsubscribe can do so with a
> mailto link with unsubscribe filled in the subject field.

Check the FAQ 1.5

I've never used it, and not sure if it'll work with 2.1 or not.  YMMV

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[Mailman-Users] passwords

[Jeff Poretsky]

Is there any way to set up a list so that there are no passwords
required for unsubscribe. Even better if the only password would be for
the admin(s).

I need this so that someone who wants to unsubscribe can do so with a
mailto link with unsubscribe filled in the subject field.

Thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on oneserver

[Victor Daniel a.k.a the MacNut]

Does the virtual domain have to be on the same server as the mailman 
list? Can the domain be on another server at another host altogether?


At Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:11 -0700, "Richard B. Pyne" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Eating (a very small piece of) humble pie

After I sent my reply, I did find the notes in bin/newlist telling how to
specify the domain as part of the list name (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, the
create cgi will not permit including the @dom.ain in the list name and
therefore defaults to the default domain (which mailman appears to allow 
only to be the domain listed in the PTR dns record for the IP address of the
machine).

--Richard



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Raquel Rice]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:19:18 -0700
"Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Another very small slice of humble pie...
> 
> I had my mm_cfg.py file:
> 
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST=lists.kinfolk.org
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST=lists.kinfolk.org
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> 
> Had to change them to:
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.kinfolk.org'
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.kinfolk.org'
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> 
> I guess I'm too used to http.conf files where almost nothing needs
> to be quoted.
> HOWEVER...
> 
> >From the web interface:
> 
> Error: List name must not include "@": [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> (yes, 71bruins.org IS listed as a virtual host)
> 
> --Richard
> 

I do it all the time.  I regulary set up new lists on the various
hosts and the "new list" email goes to the new owner.  So, I wonder
what you're doing?

Me?

## In Defaults.py
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'raquel.yellowline.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'raquel.yellowline.com'

## In mm_cfg.py
add_virtualhost("lists.thericehouse.net",
"lists.thericehouse.net")
add_virtualhost("lists.yellowline.com",  
"lists.yellowline.com")
add_virtualhost("lists.waveelectrology.com", 
"lists.waveelectrology.com")
add_virtualhost("lists.campaignfortolerance.org",
"lists.campaignfortolerance.org")

(sorry for wrapping problems)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Richard B. Pyne]

Another very small slice of humble pie...

I had my mm_cfg.py file:

DEFAULT_URL_HOST=lists.kinfolk.org
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST=lists.kinfolk.org
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

Had to change them to:
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.kinfolk.org'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.kinfolk.org'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

I guess I'm too used to http.conf files where almost nothing needs to be 
quoted.
HOWEVER...

>From the web interface:

Error: List name must not include "@": [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(yes, 71bruins.org IS listed as a virtual host)

--Richard


On 16 Jan 2003 at 9:19, Raquel Rice wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:11 -0700
> "Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 16 Jan 2003 at 8:41, Raquel Rice wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:24:31 -0700
> > "Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I am using 2.1... I still have not found a way to set the list's
> > > preferred domain until after the list is created.
> > > 
> > > Please, show me where in the newlist script or the create cgi
> > > you can set the domain for the list!
> > > 
> > > --Richard
> > 
> > Have you read the comments in Defaults.py for using
> > "add_virtualhost()" in mm_cfg.py?  The domain is set when the list
> > is created using "newlist" and the proper email is sent to the
> > listowner address specified in "newlist".
> > 
> > --
> > Raquel
> >
> > Eating (a very small piece of) humble pie
> > 
> > After I sent my reply, I did find the notes in bin/newlist telling
> > how to specify the domain as part of the list name (i.e.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, the create cgi will not permit including
> > the @dom.ain in the list name and therefore defaults to the
> > default domain (which mailman appears to allow  only to be the
> > domain listed in the PTR dns record for the IP address of the
> > machine).
> > 
> > --Richard
> > 
> 
> And I bring you back, once again, to "add_virtualhost()".
> 
> --
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> 
> It is hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head.
>   --Sally Kempton
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Raquel Rice]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:11 -0700
"Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 16 Jan 2003 at 8:41, Raquel Rice wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:24:31 -0700
> "Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I am using 2.1... I still have not found a way to set the list's
> > preferred domain until after the list is created.
> > 
> > Please, show me where in the newlist script or the create cgi
> > you can set the domain for the list!
> > 
> > --Richard
> 
> Have you read the comments in Defaults.py for using
> "add_virtualhost()" in mm_cfg.py?  The domain is set when the list
> is created using "newlist" and the proper email is sent to the
> listowner address specified in "newlist".
> 
> --
> Raquel
>
> Eating (a very small piece of) humble pie
> 
> After I sent my reply, I did find the notes in bin/newlist telling
> how to specify the domain as part of the list name (i.e.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, the create cgi will not permit including
> the @dom.ain in the list name and therefore defaults to the
> default domain (which mailman appears to allow  only to be the
> domain listed in the PTR dns record for the IP address of the
> machine).
> 
> --Richard
> 

And I bring you back, once again, to "add_virtualhost()".

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[Mailman-Users] htdig integration patches bug fixed (I hope)

[Richard Barrett]

If you use my Mailman/htdig integration patches and are using MM 2.1 final 
you will definitely find the new version of the #444884 patch I have just 
uploaded useful.

This revised patch incorporates a fix for a fairly gross bug in 
$prefix/Mailman/Cgi/htdig.py; don't ask: the embarrassment is too great, My 
test schedule for 2.1 betas and final was badly lacking for this to have 
got through. Apologies to anyone bitten by the problem.

Unhappily the problem was noticed just as the HDD on my test system died 
and it has taken ages to get a replacement drive, install it and get 
everything back to working condition.

While investigating the problem and generating the revised htdig patch for 
2.1 I also found an interaction with a bug in $prefix/scripts/driver for 
which I have posted patch #668685.

For using the MM/htdig integration the patch sequence is now:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=668685&group_id=103&atid=300103

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=661138&group_id=103&atid=300103

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444879&group_id=103&atid=300103

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444884&group_id=103&atid=300103

Again, let me know if you have any problems with these.







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[Mailman-Users] Help with setup of mailman on one machine with MTA on a second server..

[Gerard Godin]

Is there a FAQ or tutorial somewhere on doing this well?

Right now I'm trying:

On MTA:

/etc/aliases ->
test:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
test-owner: test-owner@mailman


On mailmanhost:

/etc/aliases ->
test-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe test"
etc...

problem is, these users on mailmanhost get bounced back as

Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 550 5.1.1 User unknown

Help..




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[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] spam filter

[Satya]

(Fups set to -users only)

On Jan 16, 2003 at 08:27, Kory Wheatley wrote:

>I would like to discard any email that comes from the from address
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Wouldn't we all! Yes, I've gotten multiple spam from that, as well.

>[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but I would rather have it be automatically discarded,
>so there is no need to manually discard these emails when they are held
>for approval.

You should really do this at the MTA (Metropolitan Transit Authority?
... No, Mail Transfer Agent) level. I'm going to do it when I get a
round tuit. Or even a reasonably soft-cornered tuit.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] backing up

[Satya]

On Jan 16, 2003 at 13:02, ian webster wrote:

>I would like to know if I can back up a list that I have in mailman to a
>spreadsheet or database.

How about running bin/list_members, and doing whatever you want with
the resulting list of email addresses?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Richard B. Pyne]

Eating (a very small piece of) humble pie

After I sent my reply, I did find the notes in bin/newlist telling how to 
specify the domain as part of the list name (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, the 
create cgi will not permit including the @dom.ain in the list name and 
therefore defaults to the default domain (which mailman appears to allow  
only to be the domain listed in the PTR dns record for the IP address of the 
machine).

--Richard


On 16 Jan 2003 at 8:41, Raquel Rice wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:24:31 -0700
"Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 15 Jan 2003 at 20:41, Raquel Rice wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:07:03 -0700
> "Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, except it does not have the ability to set the domain at or
> > before the time of list creation. If you want to do it in a true
> > virtual hosting manner, you need to send the listowner
> > notification email to yourself when you create the list. You can
> > then log in to the admin interface, set the domain, and then
> > edit and forward the listowner notification email.
> > 
> > --Richard
> 
> Perhaps you should upgrade to 2.1?
> 
> --
> Raquel
> 
> I am using 2.1... I still have not found a way to set the list's
> preferred domain until after the list is created.
> 
> Please, show me where in the newlist script or the create cgi you
> can set the domain for the list!
> 
> --Richard

Have you read the comments in Defaults.py for using
"add_virtualhost()" in mm_cfg.py?  The domain is set when the list
is created using "newlist" and the proper email is sent to the
listowner address specified in "newlist".

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Raquel Rice]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:24:31 -0700
"Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 15 Jan 2003 at 20:41, Raquel Rice wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:07:03 -0700
> "Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, except it does not have the ability to set the domain at or
> > before the time of list creation. If you want to do it in a true
> > virtual hosting manner, you need to send the listowner
> > notification email to yourself when you create the list. You can
> > then log in to the admin interface, set the domain, and then
> > edit and forward the listowner notification email.
> > 
> > --Richard
> 
> Perhaps you should upgrade to 2.1?
> 
> --
> Raquel
> 
> I am using 2.1... I still have not found a way to set the list's
> preferred domain until after the list is created.
> 
> Please, show me where in the newlist script or the create cgi you
> can set the domain for the list!
> 
> --Richard

Have you read the comments in Defaults.py for using
"add_virtualhost()" in mm_cfg.py?  The domain is set when the list
is created using "newlist" and the proper email is sent to the
listowner address specified in "newlist".

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Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter

[Dan Wilder]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:27:17AM -0700, Kory Wheatley wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to discard any email that comes from the from address
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  I know you can put a filter value in the mm_cfg.py and
> that will filter mail to be held for moderation; for example,  "from:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]", but I would rather have it be automatically discarded,
> so there is no need to manually discard these emails when they are held
> for approval.
> 
> I would need this for mailman 2.0.13 and mailman 2.1

Why not stick with the "small sharp tools" philosophy of UNIX and
use the existing tools that more than adequately address the problem,
rather than trying to reinvent a solution?

Procmail (to name just one tool) is very good at sorting out this
kind of thing.  It doesn't take much to set up.  In the 
MTA's aliases file, instead of passing directly to the Mailman
wrapper, use a line like:


-- snip -
listname: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/listname"
-- snip -

for a list called "listname".

The /etc/procmailrcs directory is owned either by root.root
or by the list user and group.  The list procmail rcfile

/etc/procmailrcs/listname

is owned by the list user and group.  Near the beginning
is a line that says:

LIST=listname

In it, along with whatever else you might use, you put a recipe:

-- snip -
:0
* ^From: .*\.big@boss\.com
/dev/null
-- snip -

which consigns mail containing a header such as
the one you mention to oblivion.

You then have much more flexible and sophisticated mail sorting
than is reasonable to expect Mailman ever to implement.

You can discard postings with duplicate bodies:

-- snip -
# Passthrough recipe
:0fw
| /usr/lib/mailman/localbin/dup.py /var/log/mailman/$LIST.db

# If preceding inserted X-Duplicate header, consign to oblivion
:0
* ^X-Duplicate: yes
/dev/null
-- snip -

(dup.py near end of this email)

You can invoke SpamAssassin and put things flagged as spam
in your log directory:

-- snip -
:0fw
| spamc

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
/var/log/mailman/$LIST-spam
-- snip -

At the end of the procmail rcfile is the wrapper recipe:

-- snip -
:0
| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post $LIST
-- snip -

which delivers anything not disposed of by an earlier recipe.


A python script to tag duplicates, useful in procmail rcfiles:

--- snip 
#!/usr/bin/python
#
# Copyright 2002 Specialized Systems Consultants, 
# publishers of Linux Journal
#
# You are licensed to use this software under the provisions
# of the Gnu General Public License, version 2 or later.
#
# Suggestions and patches to: Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Tue Oct 29 09:24:35 PST 2002 dhw

"""
dup.py -- Filter a piece of email, inserting an

X-Duplicate: yes

header if we've seen this thing before.

Usage: dup.py dbfilename outputmail
"""

import fcntl
import shelve
import md5
from sys import stdin, stdout, argv, exit

if len(argv) < 2:
print("""
Usage: dup.py dbfilename outputmail
""")
exit(1)

# Get db file name and related lock file name

dupdb = argv[1]

parts = dupdb.split("/")

duplock = parts[:-1]
duplock.append("." + parts[-1:][0] + ".lock")
duplock = "/".join(duplock)

# Grab the email message
# Break up the mail into head and body text strings.
# Omit X-Duplicate header, if found.
# Thanks, we'll add our own if we want one.

head = []
body = []

for line in stdin.readlines():
if body or line == "\n":
body.append(line)
elif line.find("X-Duplicate: yes") != 0:
head.append(line)

head = "".join(head)
body = "".join(body)

# calculate body md5sum

sum = md5.new(body).hexdigest()

# Open a shelve under lock.  
# If it doesn't exist create it.

lockfd = open(duplock, "w")
fcntl.lockf(lockfd, fcntl.LOCK_EX)

try:
dupfd = shelve.open(dupdb, "w")
except:
dupfd = shelve.open(dupdb, "c")

# If we've seen this sum before we'll add the header,
# if not, write this sum to the shelve file.

if dupfd.has_key(sum):
duphdr = "X-Duplicate: yes\n"
else:
duphdr = None
dupfd[sum] = 1

dupfd.close()

fcntl.lockf(lockfd, fcntl.LOCK_UN)
lockfd.close()

# Print out the mail inserting X-Duplicate header if needed.

stdout.write(head)

if duphdr:
stdout.write(duphdr)

stdout.write(body)

exit(0)
--- snip 



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server

[Richard B. Pyne]

I am using 2.1... I still have not found a way to set the list's preferred 
domain until after the list is created.

Please, show me where in the newlist script or the create cgi you can set the 
domain for the list!

--Richard

On 15 Jan 2003 at 20:41, Raquel Rice wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:07:03 -0700
"Richard B. Pyne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, except it does not have the ability to set the domain at or
> before the time of list creation. If you want to do it in a true
> virtual hosting manner, you need to send the listowner
> notification email to yourself when you create the list. You can
> then log in to the admin interface, set the domain, and then edit
> and forward the listowner notification email.
> 
> --Richard

Perhaps you should upgrade to 2.1?

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accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose.
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[Mailman-Users] spam filter

[Kory Wheatley]

Hi,

I would like to discard any email that comes from the from address
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  I know you can put a filter value in the mm_cfg.py and
that will filter mail to be held for moderation; for example,  "from:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but I would rather have it be automatically discarded,
so there is no need to manually discard these emails when they are held
for approval.

I would need this for mailman 2.0.13 and mailman 2.1

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[Mailman-Users] user feedback on plain digests

[Bryan Fullerton]

Several of my list owners are quite unhappy with the state of plain 
text digests in 2.1. Here's one comment sent to me this morning:

=
I must admit that until this post appeared I had not noticed that the
messages were still numbered. Since the index is numbered, the number
is really usefull for those who just want to scroll to specific
messages. The number must be the first line, as it used to be, for
the numbering to be of any value. (I mean, who looks to the 10th line
of anything, to see if it's numbered?)

The reason why I asked about eliminating those five unnecessary lines
of header is that they make it impossible for someone scrolling
through the digest to easily spot the subject lines.

The latest Mailman may be wonderful in other respects, but this
version might as well be numbered 1.0 as it takes several steps
backward in digest presentation--by obscuring message numbers anbd
subject lines. You can quote me.
=

And another:

=
The person at Mailman who came up with the brilliant idea to hide the
number obviously is not a digest reader. More than half of our
subscribers are, so this is a big concern.
=

It should be noted that they do like most of the other features in 2.1, 
but as they have a lot of digest subscribers this is generating lots of 
complaints.

When I get a chance later today I'll be trying the patch Tokio Kikuchi 
sent to mailman-developers - hopefully it will resolve the excess 
headers issue.

Thanks,

Bryan


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Sub-lists and authorized posting

[Neulinger, Nathan]

I managed to make a patch to do this based on the "list_exploder" patch
that is in the sourceforge patches area for 2.0. 

I've got a patch against 2.1 if anyone is interested. Basically lets you
put:

+list@thisdomain

in the *_these_nonmembers boxes, and it will expand that to the contents
of that list when checking for authorization to post/etc. 

-- Nathan


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> -Original Message-
> From: Neulinger, Nathan 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Sub-lists and authorized posting
> 
> 
> Is there any way to grant permission to post to list Y to [anyone on
> list X]?
> 
> This is a pretty common option used on listserv lists.
> 
> I didn't see anything that would directly allow this, but 
> seems like it
> wouldn't be too hard to have it be an added feature. Has anyone put
> together a patch to support this or know of some way to do it that
> doesn't involve duplicating subscriptions or other hackery like that. 
> 
> -- Nathan
> 
> 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?

[Jim Hale]

I shoulda just waited. :)

Someone sent a message to one of my lists and it automatically took care
of the Archives. :)

Now I need to learn how to customize the display in Mhonarc - which as
they say at the end of some movies, 'But that is another story...'

Thanks for the help! :)

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* Jim Hale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)

Then there's only one thing to do, and thats learn :)

> The SME Server is just a distribution of Linux (www.e-smith.org) that 
> has all the stuff built in to run everything for web that you 
> configure via a web interface. The 'specialized' version of stuff I 
> was talking about was just packaged by another SME Server user that 
> places the files where they need to be for THAT particular 
> distribution - hence the files aren't in the 'usual' place per the 
> installation instructions for mhonarc.

Alright, that makes some more sense.

> Like, my archives are located in /opt/mailman/archives and mhonarc is 
> located in /opt/mailman/mhonarc instead of /var/mhonarc. So I'm all 
> confused. :/

So the previous instructions should still work.  Just output the mhonarc
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[Mailman-Users] mailpasswds

[sean pambianco]

Hi,

Is there anyway to run the mailpasswds cron jobs for just one list as
opposed for all lists on my mailman server?

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on MacOS X

[Dan Phillips]

http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html gives detailed 
instructions for installing MM 2.0.13. According to the author, it will 
soon be updated to reflect the differences in 2.1. That, along with the 
"readme.macosx" file included with the MM source should give you plenty 
to go on.


On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 04:37  AM, Claus Atzenbeck wrote:
I have MacOS X (version 10.2.3, but not the server version). I would 
like to install a mailing list server. Is there any documentation on 
installing Mailman on MacOS X? I have not found any MacOS specific doc 
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[Mailman-Users] backing up

[ian webster]

I would like to know if I can back up a list that I have in mailman to a 
spreadsheet or database.





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[Mailman-Users] Mailman on MacOS X

[Claus Atzenbeck]

Hi,

I have MacOS X (version 10.2.3, but not the server version). I would 
like to install a mailing list server. Is there any documentation on 
installing Mailman on MacOS X? I have not found any MacOS specific doc 
on the web.

Any hints?

Thanks!
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