[Mailman-Users] Customising pages

2004-03-25 Thread Jason Marty
Title: Customising pages



I’ve customised the html pages in the list options an have searched all the other html pages in the Mailman directory (OS X Panther) but cannot find the options login page.
Does anyone know where this may be?



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[Mailman-Users] Need help with Mailman software

2004-03-25 Thread Justin Viera
Greetings,

My name is Justin Viera and I work for Wareham Public
Schools in Wareham, MA.  We are just setting up our list
server using mailman software and we ran into a problem
that the company we are using to host can't seem to give us
an answer on.  In the "archives" section, how would you
delete threads or the entire archive if we wished to do so
in case something that no longer applied or we didnt want
seen got posted.  I know there is filtering but some things
that are allowed to mail out we dont necessarily want
permanently showing on the archives.  Please help!!

Justin Viera
WPS

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[Mailman-Users] Changing internationalization

2004-03-25 Thread Torsten Ehlers
Hi,

I'm using the German translation of Mailman. Unfortunately, the German 
translation is not complete and has quite a few errors and I'd like to 
correct them. How can I make Mailman include my corrections? Simply 
editing the file messages/de/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po doesn't have any 
effect.

Torsten

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RE: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-25 Thread Sean Carnahan
Yes you can.  But I'm afraid I've lost sight of the original problem you're
experiencing.  There is nothing prohibiting html messages thru mailman
except the individual settings for your list.

Have you looked at your Content Filtering settings?
- yes

Is is set to convert html to plain text?
- no, its set not to convert it.

Is it set to remove attachments with the text/html content type?
-Not sure haven't looked at this and will do so now.

What happens when you send html messages?

-When I send one out, it send it but when it comes over, it has all the
graphics as attachments, and the text is laid out but with html link tags
shows instead,  it still comes as html, just strips the graphics I have sent
that are embedded , such as sending a html webpage from site to the list.
But when it comes the text and all are there, the graphics(jpgs) are removed
from seeing and sent on as attached files.

 
What exactly do you see?
-See above


Do the html tags get displayed as text rather than showing the html result?
-Yes

Or do you just see the text, no html tags, no html?
-I see text, in html, with tags and links ive made for things.

Perhaps it's something in your particular email program?
-I send via outlook to mailman 2.1.3

Have you tried a different email program or a webmail site?
-I don't have another email program, will try form another site and see
what's up.

\
Thanks you so much for looking into this with me.
I hope to sort it out as bcentral, which I was using for emails, is just one
helluva pricey thing.
But it send s out just what I need. I am sure mailman can do the job but
have to get over this hump.

THANKS!!!

sean


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[Mailman-Users] passwords post

2004-03-25 Thread jsingh
Hi,

I'm new to this list, so I apologize if my question appeared soon
before, but I didn't see it in the archives.  
Is there a way to configure Mailman to require a
password for posting?
thanks

Jaskaran Singh
University Systems & Security
Fairleigh Dickinson University
1000 River Road, Mail Stop TBH1-01
Teaneck, NJ 07666

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Dropping local domain.

2004-03-25 Thread Boris Folgmann
Shaun T. Erickson schrieb:

> Well, in an all virtual postfix setup, nothing is ever sent to the local 
> delivery agent, so no alias expansion can be done. There is no "local".

It works. The piping is done in mm's alias file.
Don't setup a catch all entry (@dom.ain) in your own virtual file if
dom.ain ist part of mydestination. If you do so, this entry will catch also
the right-sides of virtual-mailman before the are looked up in the alias file.

cu,
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[Mailman-Users] Re: using SpamAssassin w/ MailMan

2004-03-25 Thread Chris Barnes
Chris Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> q2:  I originally posted this to the gmane.mail.mailman.user mirror of
> this list.  It was rejected because it said I wasn't a subscriber...


Sorry for the duplicate post.  I mistook a defunct subscriber's broken
mailserver for a problem with the mirror.  In the meanwhile, will
someone please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?


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[Mailman-Users] error: XXX UPDATE CURRENTLY DISABLED. USE Release_2_1-maint branch

2004-03-25 Thread Danny Terweij
Hi,

My linux boc did crashed and the HDD did not working anymore. I did set up a
new box (old box RH7.2, new box FC1).

>From a backup i copied the /usr/local/mailman to the new box. This is
version 2.1.1+. So i thought lets get a new fresh cvs and update the old to
new version. But i get this error : XXX UPDATE CURRENTLY DISABLED.  USE
Release_2_1-maint branch
after make install. I dont see any faq related topic about this. Google
shows me one hit to the check-in list archive and that is not interesting.

So what can i do and how can i do things ?

Danny Terweij





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[Mailman-Users] using SpamAssassin w/ MailMan

2004-03-25 Thread Chris Barnes
Is there a way to utilize SpamAssassin running on the same box as
Mailman?

By that, I mean SA is already running, so all email coming in will be
scored by SA for its 'spamminess'.

Is there a way to get MM to place those messages with a Spam=Yes score
on hold until the list owner can review the message on an otherwise
unmoderated list?  I want this for ALL lists (a global setting).




q2:  I originally posted this to the gmane.mail.mailman.user mirror of
this list.  It was rejected because it said I wasn't a subscriber...

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[Mailman-Users] Utilizing SpamAssassin

2004-03-25 Thread Chris Barnes
Is there a way to utilize SpamAssassin running on the same box as
Mailman?

By that, I mean SA is already running, so all email coming in will be
scored by SA for its 'spamminess'.

Is there a way to get MM to place those messages with a Spam=Yes score
on hold until the list owner can review the message on an otherwise
unmoderated list?  I want this for ALL lists (a global setting).


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[Mailman-Users] Help with unshunt

2004-03-25 Thread Bob Bernstein
What causes certain messages to be shunted? (Has anyone documented
this?)

Do attachments play a role in this mechanism?

Has this behaviour been redefined in versions subsequent to 2.1.2?

I want to make a case to my sysadmin to upgrade to 2.1.4, but he's
afraid that in fixing one problem, others will be created. Arrgh.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-25 Thread texas critter
On Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:30 AM, Sean Carnahan wrote:

> Thanks for the input, and linking it to a site with html is good
> idea.
> I still wish to know if html email is possible through mailman.

Yes you can.  But I'm afraid I've lost sight of the original problem you're
experiencing.  There is nothing prohibiting html messages thru mailman
except the individual settings for your list.

Have you looked at your Content Filtering settings?

Is is set to convert html to plain text?

Is it set to remove attachments with the text/html content type?

What happens when you send html messages?

What exactly do you see?

Do the html tags get displayed as text rather than showing the html result?

Or do you just see the text, no html tags, no html?

Perhaps it's something in your particular email program?

Have you tried a different email program or a webmail site?

While I'm not fond of html in email, it's not an evil thing all on its own.
Html in itself is not a virus.  And even email with viruses can be read
safely if you're not using an insecure email program or if you're using an
insecure program in a safe manner (fully patched, read in plain text only).
I use OE to read all my email but I take the proper precautions to prevent
any virus infected or spyware infected email from being able to do its
damage.  (And as soon as Mozilla's Thunderbird gets a bit further along in
development, I'll most likely be switching to that, I stopped using IE for
browsing ages ago, Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox are the best browsers out
there.)

IMHO, YMMV, HAND.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mladmin script

2004-03-25 Thread Steffen Mueller
On 03/25/04 18:31 Raymond Wood wrote:
2.
Is there any plan to include a feature in Mailman that will
allow long spam-filled queue's to be deleted all at one time?  I
really hope so, because the current web interface is really just
too time-consuming for our list moderators, given the high
volume of spam we are receiving.
hi.

maybe this workaround helps you:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.026.htp
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[Mailman-Users] web configuration

2004-03-25 Thread Ana Carolina Alonso de Armiño
Hello

I have an mailman server (with sendmail) running mailman 2.1.3, this server 
is called myhost.  I have configred into the Mailman/Defaults.py like

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'None'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'None'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'None'
DEFAULT_URL = 'http://www.mydomain.edu.ar/mailman/'
I have an web server who mounts the mailman NFS directory.
When I go to  'http://www.mydomain.edu.ar/mailman/infolist/mylist' I see 
the rigth page, but when I access to any link I get wrong URLs 
like  'http://myhost.mydomain.edu.ar/mailman/admin/mylist'
If I change the word myhost to www in the URL and I get the rigth page.
This happen in all page that I open, so I can open the page to configure my 
list but I can´t do change because the botton don´t work.

Which is the rigth configuratio to my needs?
Thanks in advance!
Ana



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[Mailman-Users] change default value of respond_to_post_requests

2004-03-25 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hi.

I'm using Mailman 2.1.4 on Debian Woody (a Backport from backports.org)

To turn off those automatic "held for approval"-messages for any 
forthcoming new lists on my server, I tried to change the default value 
in mm_cfg.py:
RESPOND_TO_POST_REQUESTS = No
Without success.

The www-interface provides this option in:
Generell options / respond_to_post_requests (Yes/No)
changing the value here works fine.
I know, the value is hardcoded in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py
Line 289:
self.respond_to_post_requests = 1
A comment in Line 288 sais:
# This stuff is configurable
but how?
What do I have to add in my mm_cfg.py to change this value?

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[Mailman-Users] mladmin script

2004-03-25 Thread Raymond Wood
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Hello,

I recently completed an upgrade from Mailman 2.0.11 -> 2.1.4 on
our server, and things seem to have gone reasonably well (we did
get bit briefly by the requirement to modify aliases in
/etc/aliases though).

I do have two questions, however, that I'm hoping someone on the
list can help clarify.

1.
Due to the ungodly quantity of spam that our lists are currently
receiving, we had been making use a neat perl script called
'mladmin' that we found on Sourceforge.  Basically it allows
long queues of held posts to be deleted all at once, instead of
the labour-intensive 'discard one-by-one via the web admin
interface' approach.

Since the upgrade, unfortunately, the mladmin script no longer
works :-(  It reports the queue as empty even when there
actually are held posts in queue, and it reports no errors.  Has
anyone else experienced this, and is there a workaround or
solution?

2.
Is there any plan to include a feature in Mailman that will
allow long spam-filled queue's to be deleted all at one time?  I
really hope so, because the current web interface is really just
too time-consuming for our list moderators, given the high
volume of spam we are receiving.

Thanks in advance for help received,
Raymond
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Re: [Mailman-Users] View list subscription

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Adams
There are a couple of ways to get your complete list of subscribers.

1- Use the Membership Management/Membership list on the admin page

If you have shell access, here is the process to make your admin 
interface membership
management/membership list display more than the default number of
subscribers.

cd /lists/bin
 ./config_list -o list_name.txt list_name
 Edit list_name.txt and add the following:
 # Increase viewable member list in Admin interface
 admin_member_chunksize = 100  (note: you can make this number whatever you
want, depending on the number of subscribers)
 ./config_list -i list_name.txt list_name
 rm list_name.txt
2- As a user, enter your password and email address on the list 
information page.

3- Temporarily, change who can view the list of subscribers (done on the 
admin page) to 'administrator only' and then do #1 above and enter your 
admin password.

4- If you have shell access, you can
use the /lists/bin/list_members  command and write the results to
file.


Jamie L. Penman-Smithson wrote:

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 14:07, Jeff Donovan wrote:
 

greetings
How can i view the list subscription and or dump it to a text file?
I need to see everyone at once.
   

You can view the list of subscribers (and search it) using the web
interface, under Membership Management.
It doesn't yet let you export the list from the web, but if you have
shell access you can use list_members [listname].
HTH

 



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[Mailman-Users] domain woes

2004-03-25 Thread Tim Faircloth
Our mail server (host.my.domain) recieves mail addressed to @host.my.domain 
and @my.domain.  Right now, it is set up to send mail as @my.domain, but 
before, it was set up to send mail as however joe user had it set up in 
eudora to send (either @host.my.domain or @my.domain).

However, since the change to force @my.domain on outgoing mail (using the 
"MASQUERADE_AS" option on sendmail, many users have complained that they 
cannot post to mailing lists because they subscribed as 
@host.my.domain.  Is there a way to set up mailman to accept either 
domain as coming from the same domain?

i.e. : if Joe user ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) subscribed to my a list as 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" through the web interface, is there a way that I 
can let him post as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"?  I realize that I could set up a 
filter to specifically allow "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to post, but I would 
prefer that mailman accept an "@my.domain" address to be treated the same 
as the corresponding "@host.my.domain" addresses.

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[Mailman-Users] Vs Listserv

2004-03-25 Thread Warhurst, SI (Spencer)
Hi

I'm new to Mailman (currently run several Listserv servers) and haven't yet
got my linux box up and running to test Mailman out on, however I am
interested to get a few general impressions on the software first. If anyone
here has experience with Listserv, how do you think Mailman compares to it?

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking along the lines of issues like:

- Listserv being compiled, including it's cgi web interface, whereas Mailman
uses an interpretted language which presumably has an impact on performance.
Of course, Listserv may be more bloated than Mailman, so that could be an
offset.

- How does a Mailman system handle say 5,000 mailing lists, big lists with
5,000+ subscribers or archive searches over say 100Mb of message files? One
thing with Listserv is that it is single threaded which means that a big
archive search for example can hold other processes up significantly. You
can have multiple instances of it's web interface but if they need to
interact with the main Listserv executable when it's busy they have to wait.
I presume you can have multiple Python processes, which would effectively
make Mailman multi-threaded?

- How well does it manage to block out of office messages. eg: some OoO
systems send responses back to the Reply-To: address, which can be a pain if
it's the list address and on Listserv you have to set up a content-filter -
is there a content filter in Mailman to capture such things?

- Can list owners get any list-based statistics, like how many people join,
leave or post to the list in a given period, or are logs easily parsable and
comprehensive enough for a site admin to do this?

- How easy is it to "tap in" to Mailman's authentication system? For
example, if you wanted to add your own feature like a file area/upload
mechanism, but you want to make sure only subscribers with a valid login can
get to it, can you easily check Mailman's working files or are passwords
encrypted?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 02:59, Jason Marty wrote:
> If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does
> anyone know which files I need to copy?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!!!

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:52, Juanan wrote:
>  I only speak (write) a little English, sorry. I have Fedora Core UP
> (S.O.), sendmail and mailman, but I have problem with mailman. 
>  
>  What are the steps to install mailman.

Read the documentation at www.list.org

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[Mailman-Users] Help!!!

2004-03-25 Thread Juanan



 
 I only speak (write) a little English, sorry. 
I have Fedora Core UP (S.O.), sendmail and mailman, but I have problem with 
mailman. 
 
 What are the steps to install 
mailman.
 
 Thank you.
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[Mailman-Users] Export

2004-03-25 Thread Jason Marty
Title: Export



Does anyone know how to export the current lists?



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[Mailman-Users] Backup

2004-03-25 Thread Jason Marty
Title: Backup



If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does anyone know which files I need to copy?



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[Mailman-Users] withlist documentation

2004-03-25 Thread Alejandro Gomez
Is there any place where I could find withlist or "m" python class methods
documentation ?
thanks in advance
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[Mailman-Users] Copy some of the features from Freelists (ecartis) to the Mailman.

2004-03-25 Thread Andrzej Kasperowicz
Recently, I've looked at the freelists.org running on ecartis:
http://www.ecartis.org/
It seems that the lists on freelists have some interesting options, which
Mailman haven't got, so maybe you could introduce some of them into Mailman.

I put some screenshots over there:
http://znik.wbc.lublin.pl/~ak/rozne/ecartis/

Description of the options:
http://www.freelists.org/help/

I like that it has statistics, quoting limits and strip-headers (a colon
seperated list of headers to remove from outgoing messages). One of my
subscribers unsubscribed from my list just because X-confirm-reading was
distributed over it.  Bad quoting is also often a problem, so it would be good
if Mailman could have similar solution to that used in freelists.
Statistics is also very nice feature.

ak


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RE: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-25 Thread Sean Carnahan

Thanks for the input, and linking it to a site with html is good idea.  
I still wish to know if html email is possible through mailman.
I don't make stoner harmful and virus laden emails, 
I wish to send graphic template emails as we've been doing for years now.
And want to know if mailman can do so and if you all could show me how.
I would appreciate it.

Can I send such emails and how do I configure mailman to do so?

sean 

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> Yes I agree its not wonderful
>
> But I send out a newsletter that has to have graphics and flyers and 
> if not colorful they arent as effective for promotion.
> Any ideas on how to do it even if you don't like it?

Put the promotion newsletter on your site and use the list to mail out a URL
to your newsletter.

Sean

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RE: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-25 Thread Sean

> Yes I agree its not wonderful
>
> But I send out a newsletter that has to have graphics and flyers and if
> not colorful they arent as effective for promotion.
> Any ideas on how to do it even if you don't like it?

Put the promotion newsletter on your site and use the list to mail out a
URL to your newsletter.

Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] View list subscription

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 14:07, Jeff Donovan wrote:
> greetings
> How can i view the list subscription and or dump it to a text file?
> I need to see everyone at once.

You can view the list of subscribers (and search it) using the web
interface, under Membership Management.

It doesn't yet let you export the list from the web, but if you have
shell access you can use list_members [listname].

HTH

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2004-03-25 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 00:09, Jim Chivas wrote:
> I double checked the information you suggested below. I did your
> suggestion and it works ok.
> 
> Now new question.
> 
> I am following the mailman doc to create my first list ex:
> 
> http://my.dom.ain:8080/mailman/create
>   
> Note the port number!
> 
> 
> The screen comes up and I put in the data requested but when I click on
> create I receive the 'mailman/create' page can't be found plus the URL in
> my browser does not keep the port# 8080 in its path. I am assuming this is
> my trouble.
> 
> To correct this I added
> 
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'pipeline.langara.bc.ca:8080'

This will not work. Default_URL_Host is simply the hostname. The way
Mailman treats this variable makes it so that you *must* instead make
the change in:
   DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

In your case I think this will work:
   DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:8080/mailman/'

> 
> to my mm_cfg.py file at the end.
> 
> I then stopped and started mailmanctl.
> 
> When I try again the url still keeps loosing the port# 8080 from the URL.
> 
> 
> Referencing the following list off the create page returns similar no
> port# url as follows.
> 
> 
> http://pipeline.langara.bc.ca/mailman/admin (overview)
> 
> http://pipeline.langara.bc.ca/mailman/listinfo (list overview)
> 
> 
> Can you offer any suggestions on how to keep the port# in the URL's for
> mailman?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jim
> 

Give that a try, Jim.

Note: I believe that your existing lists will already have the old URL
stored in their database (config.pck) - so you will need to either
recreate the lists (after making the above change) or you will have to
use "withlist" to modify the url inside the existing lists databases.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


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RE: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 00:00, Sean Carnahan wrote:
> Yes I agree its not wonderful
> 
> But I send out a newsletter that has to have graphics and flyers and if not
> colorful they arent as effective for promotion.
> Any ideas on how to do it even if you don't like it?

It's not just that *I* don't like it, millions of other poor innocent
people don't like it. Hear the voice of reason, do not subject the
masses to such evil.

If you want to promote your company or service, use the web, you can
link to it in your emails. Email should be a plain text medium. You also
have the advantage of knowing that your message is going to look the
same in any email client in the world.

HTML is plain dangerous, there have been numerous examples of virii
spreading using HTML and vulnerabilities in everyone's favourite MUA -
Lookout. As a duty of care to your 'customers' do not use it, they'll
thank you for it eventually.

"HTML usually looks like it has been designed by stoned amateur
chimpanzees using Front Page Express with their feet"

Oh, and if you think you actually like flashy-seizure-inducing HTML mail
- I wholeheartedly invite you to take an agonising look at
http://www.seizurerobots.com

This is getting way off topic, this is all I'm going to say on the
subject.

Have a nice HTML-mail-clean day,

-j

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Re: [Mailman-Users] New list password

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 07:04, Jason Marty wrote:
> I am running Mailman on a Mac with OS X Panther.
> When you create a list via the GUI interface it does not ask you to
> create an admin password.
> If I try to create the list via the Mailman interface I do not know
> the password and it will no accept my other list passwords.
> Is there any place I can change, override or set this password??

You were asked for a list password, or one was created for you. Either
way it was probably emailed to you.

You can use the site password to gain access to the list and change the
list password, if you've forgotten that, you can use mmsitepass to
change it, on my Debian install of Mailman it's at /var/lib/mailman/bin,
but YMMV.

HTH

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