Re: [Mailman-Users] delivery off

2006-04-28 Thread Manlio Perillo
Mark Sapiro ha scritto: Manlio Perillo wrote: As a response to the set show command, I obtain: delivery off (a causa degli errori il Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:21:46 -) cause of errors on I've tried to send a delivery on command, but this seems not to work. What's the problem?

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 22:46 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: If the previous value of the Sender: field is being lost, then that should be corrected. At the very least, the value should be saved in an Old-Sender: or Previous-Sender: or some other suitable renamed sender field. Probably

Re: [Mailman-Users] delivery off

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Manlio Perillo wrote: But I do this later, without effects. Do you get any reply at all to your email? Maybe I have to unsubscribe/subscribe? Can you visit your options page on the web and set delivery on there? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San

Re: [Mailman-Users] delivery off

2006-04-28 Thread Manlio Perillo
Mark Sapiro ha scritto: Manlio Perillo wrote: But I do this later, without effects. Do you get any reply at all to your email? Yes: - Risultati: Impostata opzione delivery - Finito. - Results: delivery option set - End. But a later set show gave always delivery off.

[Mailman-Users] Headers

2006-04-28 Thread Louis M.
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I have googled day in and day out so, if you could point me in the right direction: All digests include the email information for each email such as: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:57:37 -0400 From: Apache [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] delivery off

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Manlio Perillo wrote: But a later set show gave always delivery off. snip I still don't understand the problem. Mailman tried to send a response to my (ISP) MTA and failed? Maybe these are related. What are the bounce settings for the list? Does disable occur on the first bounce? Berhaps the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Louis M. wrote: All digests include the email information for each email such as: snip Where can I go to remove it. Even if it is a global change. see the mm_cfg.py options MIME_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS and PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS (described in Defaults.py). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread John W. Baxter
On 4/28/06 6:06 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 22:46 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: If the previous value of the Sender: field is being lost, then that should be corrected. At the very least, the value should be saved in an Old-Sender: or Previous-Sender: or

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] Cannot update Mailman FAQ

2006-04-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:04 PM -0400 2006-04-28, Barry Warsaw wrote: That's fine. I'm not going to worry about changing that, since at some point the FAQ should be moved to the new Wiki. (Any volunteers?) The current FAQ Wizard has the advantage of simplicity and tracking all previous changes (in

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] Cannot update Mailman FAQ

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 12:37 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: The current FAQ Wizard has the advantage of simplicity and tracking all previous changes (in case things need to be rolled back). Wikis, by their nature, are considerably more complex and at least some of them don't track

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Neal Groothuis
John W. Baxter wrote: Probably, indeed. But what happens if that header was already taken in the process that brought the message to mailman for distribution to the list? As I noted in my previous response, I believe that the correct field (if Mailman were to add a Sender: header) to add

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't forget to consider things like SPF, which I think uses the sender field. Whatever is used for SPF _must_ be the domain of the mailman box, or you're gonna run into a pack of trouble. ...Trouble similar to a current problem I am having with AOL: they are bouncing all email with the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread James Ralston
On 2006-04-27 at 22:46-05 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:40 AM -0500 2006-04-27, Neal Groothuis wrote: Again from RFC 2822 3.6.2, the Sender: header should contain the address of the agent responsible for transmitting the message, meaning that a person who sends mail to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dallas Bethune wrote: For our uses just changing that list-bounces address to something less ominous looking would help. It definitely looks to me as if something needs to be done. I think perhaps offering 3 options either to the list admin on a per-list basis with a site default or just a

Re: [Mailman-Users] permissions error with 'make install'

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: I am doing the install as a member of the Mailman group. I have made sure that the installation directory can be written to by that group. I have run 'configure' and 'make' successfullly. When I run 'make install', I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
Now that I have a few minutes to breath ;) I'll try to summarize my thoughts on this, and then perhaps go back later and follow up to specific points later in the thread. I'm sympathetic to ripping out the Sender: field munging. It was always primarily a workaround for buggy MTAs. If the

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:05 -0500, Neal Groothuis wrote: As I noted in my previous response, I believe that the correct field (if Mailman were to add a Sender: header) to add would be Resent-Sender. Please see RFC 2822, section 3.6.6. Whatever else we decide, I don't agree, or at least,

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 14:08 -0400, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Trouble similar to a current problem I am having with AOL: they are bouncing all email with the FROM: address of a specific AOL user, when mailman delivers the messages to -any- aol or cs.com address. Have you tried

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:50 PM -0400 2006-04-28, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:05 -0500, Neal Groothuis wrote: As I noted in my previous response, I believe that the correct field (if Mailman were to add a Sender: header) to add would be Resent-Sender. Please see RFC 2822, section 3.6.6.

[Mailman-Users] Missing Unsubscription Requests

2006-04-28 Thread Edward Muller
I am hosting a list (running on 2.1.7) that is missing unsubscription requests on the 'admindb' page. The list is configured to have moderated unsubscription requests, so people don't have to confirm their unsubscriptions, which seems to cause a lot of problems. I know the unsubscription

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing Unsubscription Requests

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Edward Muller wrote: I know the unsubscription request was made because: a) they show up in the 'vette' log b) Some people are sending angry emails to the return address of the list. a) is good evidence. As far as b) is concerned, can people who can't deal with an unsubscribe confirmation be