[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2007-10-11 Thread Ben Botes
Good day,

 

When importing a mailing list using mass import, is there a way that one can
import the persons name and email address at the same time?

 

Regards

 

Ben Botes



 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscription

2007-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mikael Hansen wrote:

I have happily noticed that mass subscription allows for a b [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  
rather than just [EMAIL PROTECTED]. But I see two problems:

1. if a or b includes a letter with an accent, mailman says that  
the invitation/susbcription has failed.


Put the real name in quotes as

á b [EMAIL PROTECTED]


2. the subscriber list for members includes email addresses only;  
there are no names.


Which subscriber list? The web admin membership list pages show real
names as does the output of the email 'who' command and optionally the
output of bin/list_members. Only the web 'roster' doesn't show real
names.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2007-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben Botes wrote:

When importing a mailing list using mass import, is there a way that one can
import the persons name and email address at the same time?


See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.044.htp.

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[Mailman-Users] identifying and disabling monthly reminders

2007-10-11 Thread Juan Miscaro
I realize that these questions must have been asked a million times but
I have searched the archives and cannot find the answers.

Via the command line...

a) How to identify lists that have their reminders enabled.
b) How to disable those reminders.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying and disabling monthly reminders

2007-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Juan Miscaro wrote:

Via the command line...

a) How to identify lists that have their reminders enabled.


You could use bin/withlist -a with a small script along the lines of

def show_reminders(mlist):
if mlist.send_reminders:
print mlist.real_name

See bin/withlist -h for more information.

But ...

b) How to disable those reminders.


If all you want to do is not send reminders to any list, just remove
the mailpasswds entry from Mailman's crontab.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying and disabling monthly reminders

2007-10-11 Thread Juan Miscaro

--- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Juan Miscaro wrote:
 
 Via the command line...
 
 a) How to identify lists that have their reminders enabled.
 
 
 You could use bin/withlist -a with a small script along the lines of
 
 def show_reminders(mlist):
 if mlist.send_reminders:
 print mlist.real_name
 
 See bin/withlist -h for more information.


Thank you but I need more guidance.  I figure that is a python snippet.
 I put a shebang line pointing to my interpreter and ran the following
command but the thing bombed:

./bin/withlist -a -r identify_reminder_lists.py

Sorry for the newbie question.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscription

2007-10-11 Thread Mikael Hansen
On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:10 , Mark Sapiro wrote:

 2. the subscriber list for members includes email addresses only;
 there are no names.

 Which subscriber list? ... Only the web 'roster' doesn't show real
 names.

Yes, that's the one. Sorry about my ambigous wording.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscription

2007-10-11 Thread Allan Hansen
Hello,

I have happily noticed that mass subscription allows for a b [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  
rather than just [EMAIL PROTECTED]. But I see two problems:

1. if a or b includes a letter with an accent, mailman says that  
the invitation/susbcription has failed.

2. the subscriber list for members includes email addresses only;  
there are no names.

What version are you using? In my version, the names appear right under the
email address in a text field.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscribtions

2007-10-11 Thread Frédéric Mantegazza
On vendredi 05 octobre 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 However, it is probably simpler to creat som SQL query which will write
 a membership list to a flat file and then use Mailman's bin/sync_members
 to update the Mailman list membership.

Using sync_members on a file containing names and addresses, I get :

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/sbin/sync_members, line 286, in ?
main()
  File /usr/sbin/sync_members, line 259, in main
s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace')
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 3: 
ordinal not in range(128)

Is this script able to handle non-ascii chars?

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[Mailman-Users] Reject *to* non-subscriber

2007-10-11 Thread glen martin
I've seen several posts about restricting non-subscribers from posting.  
This is a little different.

I run a private list where the list-members have decided they don't want 
non-subscribers on the threads at all.  But occasionally one will forget 
and cross-post. I'd like to bounce subscriber messages where a 
non-subscriber is anywhere on the receiver list.  Is there anything like 
this currently available or contemplated?

Thanks

glen

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[Mailman-Users] Mail Stuck in Mail Queue

2007-10-11 Thread David Boothe
Hey guys I am running MailMan version 2.1.9.cp2 on a RHEL 4 box with cPanel 11. 
 One of my cleints has a list with about 10,000 subscribers.  It is set up as a 
news list (only the owner sends mail oue to the subscribers) that gets an email 
sent about 3-4 times a year.  I have noticed that when the owner sends out an 
email, several emaisl get 'stuck' in the mail queue with about 500 recipients 
per mail.  I have nothing set on the server to limit any user in the amount of 
mail they can send.  The mail was sent out 2 days ago and stil about 19 emails 
with up to 500 recipients are in the queue.  I have noticed that among the 
recipients are addresses that have already received the mailing from the owner. 
 I guess I have a few questions...
   
  1) Is this 'normal' activity?
  2) Why does the mail stay in the queue even for recipients that have already 
received the mail?
  3) Is there a setting within MailMan that can control this?
  4) Any suggestions based on the described activity that will help the lists 
run better?
   
  Thanks

   
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[Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.9 on Solaris 8: /bin/sh: /bin/update: cannot execute

2007-10-11 Thread gregben

I'm having trouble with

# make install

The last few lines of output are:

Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
/bin/sh: bin/update: cannot execute
make: *** [update] Error 1
#

The file bin/update contained:

#! @PYTHON@

in the shebang line.
I changed this to:

#!/usr/local/bin/python

and this allows me to execute /bin/update from the command line
but the make install still fails so I must barking up the wrong tree.

Python version is 2.3.3

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reject *to* non-subscriber

2007-10-11 Thread John W. Baxter
On 10/11/07 2:33 PM, glen martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've seen several posts about restricting non-subscribers from posting.
 This is a little different.
 
 I run a private list where the list-members have decided they don't want
 non-subscribers on the threads at all.  But occasionally one will forget
 and cross-post. I'd like to bounce subscriber messages where a
 non-subscriber is anywhere on the receiver list.  Is there anything like
 this currently available or contemplated?

It can't be fully done because of Bcc.  (Except in a very specific scenario
which likely isn't achievable.)

It could be done with respect to To: and Cc:, but that might well just give
a false sense of privateness.

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying and disabling monthly reminders

2007-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Juan Miscaro wrote:

--- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You could use bin/withlist -a with a small script along the lines of
 
 def show_reminders(mlist):
 if mlist.send_reminders:
 print mlist.real_name
 
 See bin/withlist -h for more information.


Thank you but I need more guidance.  I figure that is a python snippet.
 I put a shebang line pointing to my interpreter and ran the following
command but the thing bombed:

./bin/withlist -a -r identify_reminder_lists.py


Save the above 3-line script as bin/show_reminders.py (or if you'd
rather save it as bin/identify_reminder_lists.py, change the def to

def identify_reminder_lists(mlist):
)

Then run it via

bin/withlist -a -r show_reminders

(note no .py suffix) or run it with

bin/withlist -a -r identify_reminder_lists

if you used that name.

And you do not need a shebang line in the script. bin/withlist has an
appropriate shebang line and it in turn knows what to do with the -r
script.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscribtions

2007-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
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Frédéric Mantegazza wrote:
 On vendredi 05 octobre 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 
 However, it is probably simpler to creat som SQL query which will write
 a membership list to a flat file and then use Mailman's bin/sync_members
 to update the Mailman list membership.
 
 Using sync_members on a file containing names and addresses, I get :
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/sbin/sync_members, line 286, in ?
 main()
   File /usr/sbin/sync_members, line 259, in main
 s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace')
 UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 3: 
 ordinal not in range(128)
 
 Is this script able to handle non-ascii chars?


There is a problem with the script, however at the point of the above
error, the user had already been added and it is only in formatting the
name and address for printing in the 'Added :' message that the error
occurs.

I think you can simply change line 289 of sync_members to

s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr))

to avoid this problem. Please try that and report.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reject *to* non-subscriber

2007-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
John W. Baxter wrote:

On 10/11/07 2:33 PM, glen martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I run a private list where the list-members have decided they don't want
 non-subscribers on the threads at all.  But occasionally one will forget
 and cross-post. I'd like to bounce subscriber messages where a
 non-subscriber is anywhere on the receiver list.  Is there anything like
 this currently available or contemplated?

It can't be fully done because of Bcc.  (Except in a very specific scenario
which likely isn't achievable.)

It could be done with respect to To: and Cc:, but that might well just give
a false sense of privateness.


John makes good points.

To answer your original question, this would have to be done with a
custom handler
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.067.htp.
There are no plans for anything more direct in the future.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscribtions

2007-10-11 Thread Frédéric Mantegazza
On vendredi 12 octobre 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Frédéric Mantegazza wrote:

  Using sync_members on a file containing names and addresses, I get :
 
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/sbin/sync_members, line 286, in ?
  main()
File /usr/sbin/sync_members, line 259, in main
  s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace')
  UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position
  3: ordinal not in range(128)
 
  Is this script able to handle non-ascii chars?

 There is a problem with the script, however at the point of the above
 error, the user had already been added and it is only in formatting the
 name and address for printing in the 'Added :' message that the error
 occurs.

 I think you can simply change line 289 of sync_members to

 s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr))

 to avoid this problem. Please try that and report.

Yes, it works. There are 2 lines with this call; I also had to change the 
first one to make it work.

Thanks.

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