[Mailman-Users] Bug reported when creating a new list from webpage

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Dale
Hi All Can anyone shed any light on this error I get when creating a new list from the webpage. (I can create lists okay from the newlist command) *** Displayed on the webpage *** - Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the

[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2008-07-01 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I am unsubscribing. Thanks very much for helping with my inquiry, Mark. The other queries don't apply to me, and I can offer no help with them. On my inquiry, one would think that an OS that wants to rule the world would be compatible with the most popular mailing list software. Oh, well...

[Mailman-Users] Bls: mailman true virtual hosting

2008-07-01 Thread Dony Tata
Did Mailman create a set of entries [EMAIL PROTECTED] abc [EMAIL PROTECTED] abc-admin ... Mailman doesn't create that set but Mailman create this set [EMAIL PROTECTED]abc-virtual.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]abc-virtual.org-admin in data/virtual-mailman and aliases

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Burling
--On July 1, 2008 4:39:34 PM +1000 Doug Laidlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my inquiry, one would think that an OS that wants to rule the world would be compatible with the most popular mailing list software. Oh, well... To which I reply: There is the source of your confusion. You are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2008-07-01 Thread Jan Steinman
From: Doug Laidlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... one would think that an OS that wants to rule the world would be compatible with the most popular mailing list software. Oh, well... Wow, you mean Microsoft is going to be compatible with Mailman? Cool! :-) Jesus Saves!... Passes to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug reported when creating a new list from webpage

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Dale wrote: Can anyone shed any light on this error I get when creating a new list from the webpage. (I can create lists okay from the newlist command) *** extract from the error log *** -- Jul 01 05:27:46 2008 (14663) command failed: /usr/sbin/postmap

[Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory leak?)

2008-07-01 Thread Fletcher Cocquyt
An update - I've upgraded to the latest stable python (2.5.2) and its made no difference to the process growth: Config: Solaris 10 x86 Python 2.5.2 Mailman 2.1.9 (8 Incoming queue runners - the leak rate increases with this) SpamAssassin 3.2.5 At this point I am looking for ways to isolate the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bls: mailman true virtual hosting

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dony Tata wrote: Did Mailman create a set of entries [EMAIL PROTECTED] abc [EMAIL PROTECTED] abc-admin ... Mailman doesn't create that set but Mailman create this set [EMAIL PROTECTED]abc-virtual.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]abc-virtual.org-admin in data/virtual-mailman and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Vidiot
Solaris 10 x86 Python 2.5.2 Mailman 2.1.9 (8 Incoming queue runners - the leak rate increases with this) SpamAssassin 3.2.5 At this point I am looking for ways to isolate the suspected memory leak - I am looking at using dtrace: http://blogs.sun.com/sanjeevb/date/200506 Any other tips

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-01 Thread Cyndi Norwitz
Hi all, I am finally doing a followup on this. Mark asked me to vet his proposed solution to my ISP and see what they said. They actually took it quite seriously and discussed it. I just got a phone call from the head guy in that department who wanted to speak to me directly about it. (Mark,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The release notes and NEWS file for Mailman 2.1.11 contains the following innocuous looking item. ~- Improved bounce loop detection and handling in BounceRunner.py. This actually first appeared in 2.1.11rc2. It turns out this had an unintended

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The release notes and NEWS file for Mailman 2.1.11 contains the following innocuous looking item. ~- Improved bounce loop detection and handling in BounceRunner.py. This actually first appeared in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug reported when creating a new list from webpage

2008-07-01 Thread Dony Tata
- Pesan Asli Dari: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mailman-Users@python.org Terkirim: Selasa, 1 Juli, 2008 20:59:40 Topik: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug reported when creating a new list from webpage Mark Dale wrote: Can anyone shed any light on this error I get

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am happy to announce the final release of the Mailman 2.1.11. I get lots of these: initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:2349: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:2349: warning: pointer targets in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Hank van Cleef wrote: I'm also concerned about this proposed scheme to discontinue montnly mailings. It most definitely needs some mechanism whereby a user can reset or re-obtain their password without moderator

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am happy to announce the final release of the Mailman 2.1.11. I get lots of these: initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:2349: warning: pointer

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Finkel
* Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am happy to announce the final release of the Mailman 2.1.11. Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: I get lots of these: initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:2349: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Fletcher Cocquyt
I'm having a hard time finding the release notes for 2.1.11 - can you please provide a link? (I want to see where it details any memory leak fixes since 2.1.9) thanks On 7/1/08 10:09 AM, Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaris 10 x86 Python 2.5.2 Mailman 2.1.9 (8 Incoming queue runners -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Vidiot
I'm having a hard time finding the release notes for 2.1.11 - can you please provide a link? (I want to see where it details any memory leak fixes since 2.1.9) Fletcher Cocquyt Senior Systems Administrator Information Resources and Technology (IRT) Stanford University School of Medicine There

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Fletcher Cocquyt
Not finding a leak ref - save a irrelevant (for this runner issue) admindb one: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mailman-2.1.11 1:26pm 58 # ls ACKNOWLEDGMENTS Mailman README-I18N.enSTYLEGUIDE.txt configure doc misc templates BUGS Makefile.in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.11 final has been released.

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Barry Finkel wrote: | * Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | I am happy to announce the final release of the Mailman 2.1.11. | | Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: | I get lots of these: | initialization differ in signedness |

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fletcher Cocquyt wrote: Not finding a leak ref - save a irrelevant (for this runner issue) admindb Nothing has been done in Mailman to fix any memory leaks. As far as I know, nothing has been done to create any either. If there is a leak, it is most likely in the underlying Python and not a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Fletcher Cocquyt
On 7/1/08 3:37 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fletcher Cocquyt wrote: Not finding a leak ref - save a irrelevant (for this runner issue) admindb Nothing has been done in Mailman to fix any memory leaks. As far as I know, nothing has been done to create any either. Ok,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fletcher Cocquyt wrote: Here is the current leaked state since the the cron 13:27 restart only 3 hours ago: last pid: 20867; load averages: 0.53, 0.47, 0.24 16:04:15 91 processes: 90 sleeping, 1 on cpu CPU states: 99.1% idle, 0.3% user, 0.6% kernel, 0.0% iowait, 0.0% swap Memory: 1640M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug reported when creating a new list from webpage

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Dale
That's great Mark, many thanks. Just recapping for anyone else's interest. -- After installing Mailman, when first attemping to create a new list using the webpage - it returned a You don't have permission. (Creating a new list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: Which processes correspond to which runners. And why are the two processes that have apparently done the least the ones that have grown the most. and What are these last 2? Presumably they are the missing NewsRunner and RetryRunner, but what is the extra stuff in the ps

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Fletcher Cocquyt
Pmap shows its the heap [EMAIL PROTECTED]:in 8:08pm 64 # pmap 24167 24167:/bin/python /opt/mailman-2.1.9/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:5:8 08038000 64K rwx--[ stack ] 0805 940K r-x-- /usr/local/stow/Python-2.5.2/bin/python 0814A000 172K rwx--

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fletcher Cocquyt wrote: Pmap shows its the heap [EMAIL PROTECTED]:in 8:08pm 64 # pmap 24167 24167:/bin/python /opt/mailman-2.1.9/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:5:8 08038000 64K rwx--[ stack ] 0805 940K r-x-- /usr/local/stow/Python-2.5.2/bin/python 0814A000 172K

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/1/08, Mark Sapiro wrote: In any case, I know you're reluctant to just let it run, but I think if you did let it run for a couple of days that the IncomingRunners wouldn't get any bigger than the 310 +- MB that you're already seeing after 3 hours, and the rest of the runners would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/1/08, Fletcher Cocquyt wrote: Pmap shows its the heap [EMAIL PROTECTED]:in 8:08pm 64 # pmap 24167 24167:/bin/python /opt/mailman-2.1.9/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:5:8 08038000 64K rwx--[ stack ] 0805 940K r-x-- /usr/local/stow/Python-2.5.2/bin/python

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/1/08, Mark Sapiro wrote: In this snapshot PID USERNAME LWP PRI NICE SIZE RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND 10123 mailman1 590 314M 311M sleep1:57 0.02% python 10131 mailman1 590 310M 307M sleep1:35 0.01% python 10124 mailman1 590 309M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python process size grows 30x in 8 hours (memory

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/1/08, Fletcher Cocquyt wrote: Fletcher Cocquyt Senior Systems Administrator Information Resources and Technology (IRT) Stanford University School of Medicine BTW, in case it hasn't come through yet -- I am very sensitive to your issues. In my real life, I am currently employed as a

[Mailman-Users] How can I check status of or abort a mailing in progress?

2008-07-01 Thread John Hicks
I have been hosting a mailing list of 16,000 names which has been purring along for over a year now with no problems. (I am running Mailman 2.1.5, Postfix-2.2.10, on RHES 4.0) Recently I reconfigured this list to enable personalization so my client could do a better job of processing

Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I check status of or abort a mailing in progress?

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/2/08, John Hicks wrote: I have no idea how far the system has gotten in processing the entire list. Is there any way to find out? (The message already appears in the archives but there is no entry in the Mailman post log.) Other than what is showing up in the Mailman smtp logs and in