[Mailman-Users] Mailing list server transaction history
Hi Friend... I have some research about mailman... I changed Mailman scheduling policy form FIFO to size based. To analyzed it I need transaction history from mailing list server that already running in the internet. I don't need detail transaction history of your server because that is your company secret, I just need how many email that your mailing list server received in one day and also the size. Maybe like this: 250 email around 12 kB 10 email around 5 MB 7 email around 10 MB Please, Help me Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] bounce question
Hi, I have a question the engine bounce updates by hand only when it recognizes the mistakes? thank's -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and virtual mailhosting (postfix)
Hello Mark, thank you for your further reply. The problem are not the virtual hostnames or the advertisements of the listnames. My problem is the internal handling: Is it possible to change Mailman's internal usage (target for internal redirections) from @hostname.com to @mail.hostname.com (because @hostname.com is used for virtual emails on this server actually). Kind regards, Jens Mark Sapiro schrieb: Jens Meyer wrote: My system accepts mails for [EMAIL PROTECTED] without problems. The only problem is that I can not use the internal redirection from mailman to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without (internal) postfix-warnings because the domain myserver.de is used by the virtual mailhosting also (see my last post). So one solution would be to ask mailman to redirect all emails not to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think I understand what you want to do. If you want the Mailman list to 'advertise' itself as [EMAIL PROTECTED], all you need to do is change the list's host_name attribute on the General Options admin page to mail.myserver.de if it isn't already. If what you are asking is for Mailman to create virtual alias map entries for Postfix of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] listname ... You need to set POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.myserver.de'] in mm_cfg.py instead of what you have, and then run Mailman's bin/genaliases to generate Mailman's data/virtual-mailman* files with the appropriate entries. You also need to reference this file in Postfix's virtual_alias_maps. This is what I tried to say below. Mark Sapiro schrieb: Jens Meyer wrote: Our postfix-mailserver hosts several domains (virtual mailhosting, postfix/mysql) and mailman. The primary domain myserver.de is a virtualized domain also. So this domain is not listed in mydestination: -- myhostname = mail.myserver.de mydomain = myserver.de myorigin = $mydomain mydestination = $myhostname, localhost -- As far as I understand mailman forwards all emails to the primary domain (mydomain) and mailman is only working if I add $mydomain to mydestination. This is the assumption of Mailman/Postfix integration. But when doing this there are warnings from postfix that it is not allowed to list the domain in the virtual aliases (mysql-database) and in relay_domains. Is there any possiblity to configure mailman to forward the emails in ./data/virtual-mailman not to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? My actual config is: -- DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.myserver.de' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.myserver.de' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.myserver.de'] add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) -- I don't understand your configuration. The above Mailman config items say that lists.myserver.de is a postfix virtual domain and that Mailman lists whose host_name is lists.myserver.de will get virtual_mailman entries of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] testliste2 (i.e. map the virtual domain address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to local name 'testliste2' where it will be handled by the 'testliste2:' entry in aliases). However, your setting of DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.myserver.de' says lists will be created with a host_name of 'mail.myserver.de', so no virtual_mailman entries will be created at all. Something is clearly wrong. From your description, I think if you change POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.myserver.de'] to POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.myserver.de'] And run Mailman's bin/genaliases, you will get what you want. I.e., you will get virtual_mailman with entries like [EMAIL PROTECTED] testliste2 which will map the virtual domain list address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to the local name 'testliste2' which will be delivered to Mailman according to the 'testliste2' alias in Mailman's data/aliases. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.
Mailman running on RHEL4 version 2.1.5 Problem. Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests. You go into the GUI and there are like 10. Clear the 10, and the GUI lists no more pending requests. Have run check_db and check_perms. No errors produced. Nothing other than normal messages in the logs. Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Vincent -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and virtual mailhosting (postfix)
Jens Meyer wrote: Hello Mark, thank you for your further reply. The problem are not the virtual hostnames or the advertisements of the listnames. My problem is the internal handling: Is it possible to change Mailman's internal usage (target for internal redirections) from @hostname.com to @mail.hostname.com (because @hostname.com is used for virtual emails on this server actually). I do not understand your question. I think you do not understand Mailman's processing. Internally, Mailman uses only the list name. Mailman doesn't do 'internal redirections' For incoming mail, the MTA handles mail according to its configuration, but ultimately, for mail destined to Mailman, pipes the mail to Mailman's wrapper to be posted to a list via a pipe like |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post listname. Only the listname is involved at this point. No domain is involved. If you want mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to be handled as though it were addressed to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' you have to do that in Postfix, but I don't think that is your issue. Answer these questions: How do you want list mail to be addressed? I.e., to list@ what domain? Is this domain a virtual domain in Postfix? I think the answers are mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and yes, hostname.com is a virtual domain in Postfix. If this is correct, you want something like DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'hostname.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.hostname.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['hostname.com'] add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) in mm_cfg.py, and in your Postfix configuration alias_maps = ... hash:/path/to/mailman/data/aliases and virtual_alias_domains = ... hostname.com and virtual_alias_maps = ... hash:/path/to/mailman/data/virtual-mailman -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.
Gunville, Vincent wrote: Problem. Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests. You go into the GUI and there are like 10. Clear the 10, and the GUI lists no more pending requests. snip Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number. So, the cron that is sending you the 26000 requests message is a different one for a different (old, test, demo, whatever) Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce question
Roberto Gherardi wrote: I have a question the engine bounce updates by hand only when it recognizes the mistakes? I'm trying to understand your question. Perhaps this will help. Mailman sends mail with envelope from, Sender: and Errors-To: equal to the listname-bounces address. Except in the case of really broken MTAs, bounces will be returned to this address. If the list's bounce_processing is set to No, mail to this address is ignored. If the list's bounce_processing is set to Yes, an attempt is made to recognize any messages to the listname-bounces address. If they are recognized as 'non-fatal' they are ignored. If they are recognized as fatal and the bouncing address is a list member, a bounce is scored for the member. If the address is not a member, the message is ignored. If the message is not recognized, and the list's bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner is Yes, the message is forwarded to the list owner. if the list's bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner is No, the message is discarded. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.
Cron is saying that there are 26000 pending requests. But when you go into the gui there are 10, or however many come in that day. Most of them are junk, so you remove them. The next day cron sends and email saying there are 26010 requests. This is happening for only one list. The rest of the lists are working fine. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:32 PM To: Gunville, Vincent Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed. Gunville, Vincent wrote: Problem. Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests. You go into the GUI and there are like 10. Clear the 10, and the GUI lists no more pending requests. snip Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number. So, the cron that is sending you the 26000 requests message is a different one for a different (old, test, demo, whatever) Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've done a bit more work with the site redesign, and updated the working content I had. The latest version is here: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/ So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as someone suggested to me. It looks fine to me on this macbook, but I'm at the Ottawa Linux Symposium and don't have my usual array of desktops to test from, so someone please let me know if it's unreadable. (I've cc'ed mailman-users to get more eyes.) Here's one wit the same idea, using darker reds: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-dark And the original two, both beige and gray are here: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-orig http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-alt More suggestions welcome! Terri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIh2PpnB1cG1wafMARAth3AJ9S3tMKRa7L6GkAE3RM5M5QOclC+gCdHocX mDAbF8GrYVygAg6uzfUmooE= =fz4P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign
Terri Oda wrote: The latest version is here: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/ So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as someone suggested to me. I really don't want anyone over-riding my own choices for link colors. More suggestions welcome! Did you want to mention the official Mailman group on LinkedIn? Of course, I can't figure out how to give you a link that will take you to their page for the group as opposed to the home page that I defined for the group (namely www.list.org), but that may be something we can resolve. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Python.org Postmaster Team Co-Moderator of the mailman-users and mailman-developers mailing lists -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.
Gunville, Vincent wrote: Cron is saying that there are 26000 pending requests. But when you go into the gui there are 10, or however many come in that day. Most of them are junk, so you remove them. The next day cron sends and email saying there are 26010 requests. This is happening for only one list. The rest of the lists are working fine. This problem comes up on the Mailman-Users list from time to time, and in every case for which a resolution is reported, the notice is coming from a different Mailman instance. It may be that you have a unique stiuation. The fact that the number increments is certainly unusual but my guess is still a parallel installation that may also be receiving posts to this list. Check the Received: headers in the notice to see at what host it originates. Then as root on that host, do find / -name checkdbs -print find / -name request.pck -print To see if you can find where these messages are coming from. You could try to move the lists/listname/request.pck file aside for this list in case there is some possible corruption there that's causing this. It's OK to just move it aside. It will be recreated. I really doubt that there is any problem with this request.pck. If there were, it would show up when you run cron/checkdbs by hand. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign
On 23-Jul-08, at 1:22 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: The latest version is here: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/ So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as someone suggested to me. I really don't want anyone over-riding my own choices for link colors. The original version I had used the standard link colours (ie - it didn't set them), and comments ranged from just general malaise about the colour scheme of the links to several people who asserted it was nearly unreadable on their setups. So I'll take the comment under advisement, but I suspect you're going to be in the minority. Since I've since changed the original css, here's the current stuff with no link colours specified (so they default to your browser settings): http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-nolink Did you want to mention the official Mailman group on LinkedIn? Of course, I can't figure out how to give you a link that will take you to their page for the group as opposed to the home page that I defined for the group (namely www.list.org), but that may be something we can resolve. Seems like a good fit for the Participate page! I've put it just under the wiki entry. Also, if I can convince launchpad and my laptop to get along, I'll share the code for this. It's currently generating the pages using a little python script. Although honestly, given that there's only 7 pages here, I think we might as well generate them once and just serve up the straight HTML. Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign
Terri Oda wrote: The original version I had used the standard link colours (ie - it didn't set them), and comments ranged from just general malaise about the colour scheme of the links to several people who asserted it was nearly unreadable on their setups. That implies their client is misconfigured and that should be their problem and not ours. Right? So I'll take the comment under advisement, but I suspect you're going to be in the minority. I would urge caution about paying too much attention to a vocal minority, to the potential detriment of the majority who aren't complaining. Now, if this was being driven by 508 compliance for accessibility and there simply were no other viable options, it would be more difficult for me to have grounds for a complaint. But so far I haven't heard terms like that. Since I've since changed the original css, here's the current stuff with no link colours specified (so they default to your browser settings): http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-nolink IMO, that looks much better. Did you want to mention the official Mailman group on LinkedIn? Of course, I can't figure out how to give you a link that will take you to their page for the group as opposed to the home page that I defined for the group (namely www.list.org), but that may be something we can resolve. Seems like a good fit for the Participate page! I've put it just under the wiki entry. Cool. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign
Brad Knowles writes: That implies their client is misconfigured and that should be their problem and not ours. Right? Actually, all existing clients are pretty much broken, since they don't allow you to enforce your own CSS. But I guess they figure that nearly all existing users are broken, 'cause they can't write their own CSS :-( Grrr. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
