Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin
Hi Mark,
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Helmut Schneider wrote:
I set up a new mailman instance (2.1.11). I remeber that when I
created new lists a mail was sent to the admin describing what he
needs to add to /etc/aliases to make the new list work. Currently I
do not recieve that email at the new installation. Did I forget to
check a box?
It depends on how you create the list. If you create a list from the
web or via bin/newlist without the -q option, the admin should be
notified.
Is Mailman running?
See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.
In the above reply, I overlooked the fact that you were talking about
the aliases email to the owner of the site list ('mailman-owner').
This is only sent if you haven't changed the default MTA = 'Manual'
setting. If you have set MTA in mm_cfg.py to other than 'Manual', the
aliases mail will not be sent.
I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST
SMTPPORT
Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription reminder this
morning from mailman-owner.
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[Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py in /usr : SELinux problem
hello, we are now having a problem, how to adapt mailman configuration (mm_cfg.py) to SELinux policy: it resides in /usr and the SELinux maintainer argues /usr should be read-only, which is not satisfied, when you change the configuration (and the .pyc file has to be generated in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ , too) I have thought about the way to fix this problem: simply moving the file to /etc or /var is not enough, because it's part of the package Mailman and lots of files say from Mailman import mm_cfg any thoughts of this? thanks and regards, Daniel Novotny, Red Hat inc. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set default list settings
Salvatore D'Agostino sdagost...@tropotel.net wrote: Does anyone know where I can set the default settings for all newly created lists so that I won't have to always log in to the website each time and set them individually? Thanks in advance =) I have 25 list template files that I use when I create a list via the command-line interface. I created these by saving the default configuration and modifying it for each of the 25 configuration variations. My list-creation script has at its core: /usr/sbin/newlist $emaildomain $listname config_list -i $listname.config $listname I take one of my 25 config templates, copy it into a new list template, make the necessary modifications realname info decription etc. and use that new config file as $listname.config in my script. This assumes that one has access to the command-line interface. I have never created a new list via the web page because I would then have to remember what list parameters need to be changed. I have already done this work in creating my 25 list config templates. -- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: bsfin...@anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin
Helmut Schneider wrote: I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST DEFAULT_URL_HOST DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST SMTPPORT Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription reminder this morning from mailman-owner. What is/are the address(es) listed for the owner of the mailman list? Are they deliverable? This is where the aliases mail is sent. What happens if you send mail to mailman-ow...@...? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py in /usr : SELinux problem
Daniel Novotny wrote: we are now having a problem, how to adapt mailman configuration (mm_cfg.py) to SELinux policy: it resides in /usr and the SELinux maintainer argues /usr should be read-only, which is not satisfied, when you change the configuration (and the .pyc file has to be generated in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ , too) I have thought about the way to fix this problem: simply moving the file to /etc or /var is not enough, because it's part of the package Mailman and lots of files say from Mailman import mm_cfg any thoughts of this? thanks and regards, Daniel Novotny, Red Hat inc. I thought RedHat were the experts on this. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2004-October/017343.html. I understand your issue with mm_cfg. All I can suggest is symlinks might help. I thought the current RedHat package currently has a symlink /etc/mm_cfg.py - /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (or vice versa). Does this help? If the problem is strictly with mm_cfg.pyc, you may be able to make /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.pyc an empty file with mode (or (0400) so python won't try to write it. If John Dennis is still at RedHat, he may be able to help as I think he's probably thought about this more than anyone. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set default list settings
Salvatore D'Agostino wrote: Does anyone know where I can set the default settings for all newly created lists so that I won't have to always log in to the website each time and set them individually? Most list settings have defaults in Mailman/Defaults.py. Read that file to see what the settings are and override the ones you want to change by setting them in mm_cfg.py. See http://wiki.list.org/x/fIA9. You can also make an input file for bin/config_list containing those settings you wish to change, and just run bin/config_list with that file as input on the newly created list. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Debugging question
Whit Blauvelt wrote: Okay, after an old Gentoo server died that was running mailman happily for years with sendmail, I rebuilt things on Ubuntu using a stock postfix with a custom-compiled mailman. The web interface all looks fine - the lists and their users are there - and the aliases are in place. But mail coming in disappears without an error message to tell me why. For instance: Mar 31 10:37:13 green postfix/local[28766]: 4E92B17FBEA: to=xyz-annou...@mm.xyz.org, relay=local, delay=0.45, delays=0.02/0.02/0/0.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /web/mailman/mail/mailman post xyz-announce) Nothing happens further. No error message shows in any system log. Now, obviously I've set up something wrong. But how do I get some useful debugging messages so I can get properly clued here? Have you started Mailman (bin/mailmanctl start)? The above log entry says the mail was successfully delivered to the mail wrapper, and in the absence of an error reported back to postfix, was placed in Mailman's qfiles/in queue. Is it still there? Is there anything in Mailman's error or other logs? See http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Helmut Schneider wrote: I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST DEFAULT_URL_HOST DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST SMTPPORT Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription reminder this morning from mailman-owner. What is/are the address(es) listed for the owner of the mailman list? postmas...@domain.tld Are they deliverable? This is where the aliases mail is sent. What happens if you send mail to mailman-ow...@...? A mail to mailman-ow...@domain.tld is forwarded to postmas...@domain.tld and gets delivered. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin
Helmut Schneider wrote: From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Helmut Schneider wrote: I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST DEFAULT_URL_HOST DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST SMTPPORT Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription reminder this morning from mailman-owner. What is/are the address(es) listed for the owner of the mailman list? postmas...@domain.tld Are they deliverable? This is where the aliases mail is sent. What happens if you send mail to mailman-ow...@...? A mail to mailman-ow...@domain.tld is forwarded to postmas...@domain.tld and gets delivered. And is that also true if it is sent via SMTPHOST:SMTPPORT (assuming they are different from localhost)? If so I don't know what the problem is. You can check Mailman's smtp log and error log for messages at the time a list is cerated. Also, check MTA logs. If MTA = 'Manual' (the default), when a list is created via the web, Mailman will send the 'aliases' mail to mailman-owner@(the email domain of the list). Mailman should receive that and resend it to the actual list owner. If lists are created via bin/newlist, there is never an aliases email. The aliases are just reported to stdout of the newlist command. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
