Re: [Mailman-Users] How to send moderator email approval

[Adam McGreggor]

On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:02:58PM -0700, Abdul Javid wrote:
> Hi
>  
> Is there a setting to let list moderators a notification that a
> pending request is approved/rejected.  
>
> If there are 3 email ids in moderators, if one approves, i would like
> other 2 to know that the email has been taken care.

Why not have the moderator dealing with the request reply to the mails?:
with any sane MUA (i.e., one that (properly) handles threading) it's
then obvious action's been taken.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Disable processing not working?

[Mark Sapiro]

Charles Gregory wrote:
>
>It looks like the 'disable on excessive bounces' is not working right for 
>my (only) list 'ontbirds' The bounce log contains patterns like this 
>(trimmed to show one address behaviour, omitting 'already counted' 
>messages):
>
>Apr 05 09:15:34 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 2.0
>Apr 06 00:26:23 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 3.0
>Apr 06 00:26:23 2009 (20408) sending ontbirds list
>  probe to: _...@___ (score 3.0 >= 2.5)
>Apr 07 07:47:22 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 1.0
>Apr 08 10:57:38 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 2.0
>Apr 09 08:08:36 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 3.0
>Apr 09 08:08:36 2009 (20408) sending ontbirds list
>  probe to: _...@___ (score 3.0 >= 2.5)
>Apr 10 08:57:05 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 1.0
>
>This seems to be happening for ALL permanently bouncing addresses. 
>And I see no trace of 'disabled' anywhere in the logs Or is there
>a different buzzword I should grep for?
>
>mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.6


In 2.1.5, a "VERP probe" feature was introduced. Beginning in 2.1.6 it
it disabled by default, but in 2.1.5 there was no way to turn it off.

What is happening is when the threshold is reached, a special probe is
sent with envelope from  and the user's
delivery is disabled by bounce only if and when the probe bounces.

The issue in your case is your incoming MTA is probably not delivering
mail for LISTNAME-bounces+TOKEN to LISTNAME-bounces.

If the MTA is Postfix, you need

recipient_delimiter = +

in main.cf, or if you want to use a different delimiter, say '-', you
can change the defaults

VERP_PROBE_FORMAT = '%(bounces)s+%(token)s'
VERP_PROBE_REGEXP = r'^(?P[^+]+?)\+(?P[...@]+)@.*$'

by putting

VERP_PROBE_FORMAT = '%(bounces)s-%(token)s'
VERP_PROBE_REGEXP = r'^(?P.*)\-(?P[...@-]+)@.*$'

in mm_cfg.py. I think that regexp will work, but I didn't test it.

Also see .

If you don't have access to make these changes, you will need to get
the installation admins to do it as bounce processing will not work in
this installation until one or the other change is made.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to send moderator email approval

[Terri Oda]

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Abdul Javid writes:

 > Is there a setting to let list moderators a notification that a
 > pending request is approved/rejected.If there are 3 email ids
 > in moderators, if one approves, i would like other 2 to know that
 > the email has been taken care.please advise thanks Javid
Why do you want this?  If you need an audit trail so that you know who
approved each request, or you'd like moderators to get email
notification so they don't visit the moderation page only to find it
was updated 20 seconds ago, as Mark says, Mailman provides no such
feature.


We do this so that when each moderator checks her email, she can tell at 
a glance if the pending requests for the day have already been handled 
(well, assuming she's got all those types of emails filtered into one 
folder).  It's actually fairly handy if you're not talking a list where 
there's lots of admins: a quick mail saves another 5 people the trouble 
of checking.


We just do it by asking list admins on the many-admin lists to reply to 
the "X listname moderator request(s) waiting" mails but change the 
-bounces address to -owner.  It's slightly annoying, but not that hard. 
 That might work for the original poster's problem too?


 Terri


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[Mailman-Users] Bounce Disable processing not working?

[Charles Gregory]

It looks like the 'disable on excessive bounces' is not working right for 
my (only) list 'ontbirds' The bounce log contains patterns like this 
(trimmed to show one address behaviour, omitting 'already counted' 
messages):


Apr 05 09:15:34 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 2.0
Apr 06 00:26:23 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 3.0
Apr 06 00:26:23 2009 (20408) sending ontbirds list
 probe to: _...@___ (score 3.0 >= 2.5)
Apr 07 07:47:22 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 1.0
Apr 08 10:57:38 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 2.0
Apr 09 08:08:36 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 3.0
Apr 09 08:08:36 2009 (20408) sending ontbirds list
 probe to: _...@___ (score 3.0 >= 2.5)
Apr 10 08:57:05 2009 (20408) _...@___: ontbirds current bounce score: 1.0

This seems to be happening for ALL permanently bouncing addresses. 
And I see no trace of 'disabled' anywhere in the logs Or is there

a different buzzword I should grep for?

mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.6

Yes, the bounce score threshold is 2.5
I have bounce info stale after set to 3 days, and addresses which bounce 
for just a day or so are noted in the logs as 'bounce info discarded', so 
I don't think this is the problem.


Any other info needed to solve this?

- Charles
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