[Mailman-Users] Admin Password?
Where is the site administrators password set in the mailman config? You must have the proper authorization to create new mailing lists. Each site should have a list creator's password, which you can enter in the field at the bottom. Note that the site administrator's password can also be used for authentication. -- Heisenberg's only uncertainty was what pub to vomit in next and Jung fancied Freud's mother too. -- Jared Earle -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
$ bin/newlist -l en --urlhost=mailman.covisp.net --emailhost=kreme.com hgt-sch...@kreme.com kr...@kreme.com Initial hgt-school password: Create a new, unpopulated mailing list. Usage: bin/newlist [options] [listname [listadmin-addr [admin- password]]] [ bunch of stuff] Illegal list name: hgt-sch...@akane (akane is the hostname of the local machine. I have existing lists at http://mailman.covisp.net/mailman/admin but none are public) -- No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Password?
LuKreme wrote: Where is the site administrators password set in the mailman config? bin/mmsitepass --help -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
LuKreme wrote: $ bin/newlist -l en --urlhost=mailman.covisp.net --emailhost=kreme.com hgt-sch...@kreme.com kr...@kreme.com Initial hgt-school password: Create a new, unpopulated mailing list. Usage: bin/newlist [options] [listname [listadmin-addr [admin- password]]] [ bunch of stuff] Illegal list name: hgt-sch...@akane The short answer is DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST must be a fully qualified doman name. The underlying issue is the MailList.Create() method as called by bin/newlist validates the list name by checking that listn...@default_email_host is a valid email address. This check in turn requires at least one dot '.' in the domain part. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] question about postfix aliases file and postfix virtual file and local delivery
Hi there, I have a question about changing the default behavior of postfix. As current configuration stands I need to add a mailman maillist hosted by virtual hosts/domains I need to add the to list entries to the /var/lib/ mailman/data/aliases file and also the /etc/postfix/virtual file Is there any way to get postfix to deliver mail to a virutal domain/hosted email, such as a mailman maillist, if it is found in the /var/lib/ mailman/data/aliases file but does not appear in the /etc/postfix/virtual file? What about allowing postfix to deliver Incoming mail if an user and/or maillist address is a local user but does not appear in the /etc/postfix/virtual file? Cheers, Noah -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] question about postfix aliases file and postfixvirtual file and local delivery
admin2 wrote: I have a question about changing the default behavior of postfix. As current configuration stands I need to add a mailman maillist hosted by virtual hosts/domains I need to add the to list entries to the /var/lib/ mailman/data/aliases file and also the /etc/postfix/virtual file Or configure Mailman/Postfix integration for virtual domains so that mailman will automatically maintain virtual maps in /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman as it currently does aliases. See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html although it is a bit out of date on the Postfix side. Is there any way to get postfix to deliver mail to a virutal domain/hosted email, such as a mailman maillist, if it is found in the /var/lib/ mailman/data/aliases file but does not appear in the /etc/postfix/virtual file? Only by adding the domain to mydestination in Postfix, thus making it a local domain. What about allowing postfix to deliver Incoming mail if an user and/or maillist address is a local user but does not appear in the /etc/postfix/virtual file? In order to do that, it has to ba a local domain as far as Postfix is concerned. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
On 30-May-2009, at 12:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: LuKreme wrote: $ bin/newlist -l en --urlhost=mailman.covisp.net -- emailhost=kreme.com hgt-sch...@kreme.com kr...@kreme.com Initial hgt-school password: Create a new, unpopulated mailing list. Usage: bin/newlist [options] [listname [listadmin-addr [admin- password]]] [ bunch of stuff] Illegal list name: hgt-sch...@akane The short answer is DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST must be a fully qualified doman name. kreme.com _IS_ a fqdn. Or are we talking about a setting somwhere else? I do have several lists up and running, but they were all created years ago and have been pretty much left alone. If I trey to create a list via the web interface I get a different error: Error: Unknown virtual host: mailman.covisp.net The underlying issue is the MailList.Create() method as called by bin/newlist validates the list name by checking that listn...@default_email_host is a valid email address. So I need to create the listname aliases before the list is created? This check in turn requires at least one dot '.' in the domain part. I which domain part? My mm_cfg.py is very simple: ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE = 100 OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes ADMINDB_PAGE_TEXT_LIMIT = 4096 OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No -- The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a young woman. There was no possible way that she could have been mistaken for a young man in any language, especially Braille. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
LuKreme krem...@kreme.com
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:55:44 -0600
To: mailman-users@python.org
On 30-May-2009, at 12:53, Mark Sapiro wrote:
LuKreme wrote:
$ bin/newlist -l en --urlhost=mailman.covisp.net --
emailhost=kreme.com hgt-sch...@kreme.com
kr...@kreme.com
Initial hgt-school password:
Create a new, unpopulated mailing list.
Usage: bin/newlist [options] [listname [listadmin-addr [admin-
password]]]
[ bunch of stuff]
Illegal list name: hgt-sch...@akane
The short answer is DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST must be a fully qualified doman
name.
kreme.com _IS_ a fqdn. Or are we talking about a setting somwhere
else?
Yes, and this is really a bug in newlist in that you supplied an email
host, but it didn't put it in the initial Create() method call, so
create uses DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST (from Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py) as the
domain to validate the list posting address. This setting is
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'akane'.
I do have several lists up and running, but they were all
created years ago and have been pretty much left alone. If I trey to
create a list via the web interface I get a different error:
Error: Unknown virtual host: mailman.covisp.net
This is because you went to the create page via a URL with hostname
mailman.covisp.net, and that name is not in your VIRTUAL_HOSTS
dictionary. See below.
The underlying issue is the MailList.Create() method as called by
bin/newlist validates the list name by checking that
listn...@default_email_host is a valid email address.
So I need to create the listname aliases before the list is created?
No. the check is for 'syntactically valid', not 'deliverable'
This check in
turn requires at least one dot '.' in the domain part.
I which domain part? My mm_cfg.py is very simple:
###
# Here's where we get the distributed defaults.
from Defaults import *
##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE = 100
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
ADMINDB_PAGE_TEXT_LIMIT = 4096
OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes
HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No
You also want (guessing based on above)
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.covisp.net'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'kreme.com'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
because the Defaults.py entries for these are not correct, and possibly
more add_virtualhost('www.example.com', 'example.com') entries if you
have other domains.
--
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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
On 30-May-2009, at 14:55, LuKreme wrote: I which domain part? My mm_cfg.py is very simple: OK, I fixed this by editing Defaults.py -- The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
On 30-May-2009, at 14:55, LuKreme wrote: I which domain part? My mm_cfg.py is very simple: I managed to fix this by editing Defaults.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.covisp.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.covisp.net' Everything seems to work as it did before. Yay! (both values were set to 'akane' before, which is an alias for the machine) -- MEGAHAL: within my penguin lies a torrid story of hate and love. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a new list fails
LuKreme wrote: I managed to fix this by editing Defaults.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.covisp.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.covisp.net' See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/fIA9 for why you should make this change in mm_cfg.py, not Defaults.py. It's a bit more complicated in this case than just adding the above two lines to mm_cfg.py (although that would suffice for the newlist issue) because those settings are used in an additional definition in Defaults.py so you also need VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() to undo what was done in Defaults.py, and add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) to redo it with the correct values. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
Ok I have a set of problems here.. First, posting to the list using Approved: header as the first line of the message body did not work becasue I'm sending formatted messages using Microsoft outlook with tables n stuff .. Second, I tried the following: keep an email address as non moderated to be able to post to the list and in General options, I turned the option : Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address = YES this way hackers n spammers won't know which address is allowed to post but now the subscribers are recieving From: listn...@mydomain.com and not from: 'My web site's Name' which is annoying.. Third, I can't afford to turn everyone's moderation bit on even my own address and then approve the messages using the web interface for 2 reasons: 1- I have 7 lists which is a real pain to log into each one of them and approve the messages.. 2- I'm afraid to approve one of the tens of spam and members messages by mistake .. what's the advice?? Thanks .. Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:39:28 -0700 From: m...@msapiro.net To: jeff...@goldmark.org; khillo...@hotmail.com CC: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !! Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On May 27, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Khalil Abbas wrote: all members are moderated, except my own email address (m...@email.com) which I use to post to the list .. someone sent from my address the 'From' name is not me, Please clarify. Did the From line contain your email address (m...@email.com ) or not? You seem to be saying two different things. If, as I suspect, someone is merely forging your address to post to the list, there are two things that you can do (I would recommend that you do (1) as an immediate and temporary measure, until you can get (2) in place). (1) Moderate even your own postings, so that your list moderator password is required to post, even if from your own address. (2) Improve the spam/virus filtering on your mailserver. A forged message from an open relay containing a virus should have been stopped by your mail system long before it reached mailman. Two comments in addition to the above good advice. 1) Almost anyone can spoof your address in the From: of an email. This does not require an open relay server or anything fancy. Almost any MUA can do it. 2) That is why for announce lists we recommend moderating everyone and if you want to avoid moderation when posting, use an Approved: header to bypass moderation. See the FAQs at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9 and http://wiki.list.org/x/XIA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
Khalil Abbas wrote: First, posting to the list using Approved: header as the first line of the message body did not work becasue I'm sending formatted messages using Microsoft outlook with tables n stuff .. If you post a multipart/alternative message with a text/plain and a text/html part, the first line Approved: header should work although its removal from the HTML part isn't 100% guaranteed. Also, I can';t tell you how to do it in MS Outlook, but many MUAs have a mechanism for adding true headers to the mail. Try http://www.google.com/#q=add+custom+header+outlook Second, I tried the following: keep an email address as non moderated to be able to post to the list and in General options, I turned the option : Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address = YES this way hackers n spammers won't know which address is allowed to post but now the subscribers are recieving From: listn...@mydomain.com and not from: 'My web site's Name' which is annoying.. And it won't stop the spammers anyway. The spammers may have just been lucky in spoofing your address, and even if you assume the got your list address and posting address from spyware on one of your member's computers, they have it. Third, I can't afford to turn everyone's moderation bit on even my own address and then approve the messages using the web interface for 2 reasons: 1- I have 7 lists which is a real pain to log into each one of them and approve the messages.. 2- I'm afraid to approve one of the tens of spam and members messages by mistake .. what's the advice?? We gave you the advice. Post with an Approved: header or an Approved: first line in a multipart/alternative message. You can do it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
