[Mailman-Users] sending to the list
I have been using your program for a while, and just realized no one is getting my emails when I send to the list?? I just ran some tests to my yahoo account and I am not getting it? When I send to my list, I get one, but non of my subscribers seem to be getting my emails? WHY How do I send to them? Thanks Online Corporation of America Hosting, Site Design, Application Development = Sales:1-570-686-2300 http://www.onlinecorp.com/ http://www.OnlineCorp.com = http://www.quickcart.com/ QUICKCART.COM ADVANCED E-COMMERCE SHOPPING SYSTEM http://www.quickcart.com/ http://www.QuickCart.com = AAA HOST --- $5 Hosting PHP, MYSQL, OS-Commerce, PHP MYSQL http://www.aaahost.com/ http://www.aaahost.com = -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration to new server, new domain name
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 11:33:11AM -0400, Duane Winner wrote: Hello, Can anybody point me to a document or explain to me what is necessary to complete these steps? I am in the same position and hope somebody can point to a link to a step by step tutorial or something like that. -- Zhengquan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] openID enabled mailman
Malveeka Tewari writes: 2. Sign in with existing openID login for your subscription *1. Enable/Disable openID login for your subscription* *account* For enabling and diabling the openID feature, the users login their subscribed accounts as they do now for changing any of the subcription options. On this page if they enable the openID feature, they recieve an automated reply with their openID identifier. The password for the openID identifier is the same as that for the subscription accounts. If they change their subscription passwords, their openID password gets changed too. I don't understand what you're trying to do. The whole point of open ID is delegating authorization to a third party. If you want, you can provide that service as well, but once you've enabled OpenID, you shouldn't need a password for Mailman. In fact, the Mailman password should be disabled, as it is certainly less secure than OpenID at this point in time. I want to know if there's already an openID enabled version of mailman available The OpenID project has OpenID-enabled Mailman lists, but according to Brad Knowles in the process of adapting Mailman to OpenID they broke a lot of other features, and integrating their changes is non-trivial. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] openID enabled mailman
Hi Stephen Thanks for your reply. W want to implement the OpenID Provider for the mailman set up we are running on our servers. The idea is to use OpenID with mailman to provide single sign on for our other user accounts like our wiki etc. Our focus is on providing Single Sign On but we do not want to delegate authentication to a third party. Hence we want to implement OpenID provider for our Mailman service. and OpenID relying party for our wiki etc. Now for the OpenID provider we may choose to have new passwords or use the mailman passwords. For ease of users, we want to use the mailman passwords for the OpenID provider. I hope I have conveyed what I am trying to do. I will be thankful for any suggestions Thanks Malveeka On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: Malveeka Tewari writes: 2. Sign in with existing openID login for your subscription *1. Enable/Disable openID login for your subscription* *account* For enabling and diabling the openID feature, the users login their subscribed accounts as they do now for changing any of the subcription options. On this page if they enable the openID feature, they recieve an automated reply with their openID identifier. The password for the openID identifier is the same as that for the subscription accounts. If they change their subscription passwords, their openID password gets changed too. I don't understand what you're trying to do. The whole point of open ID is delegating authorization to a third party. If you want, you can provide that service as well, but once you've enabled OpenID, you shouldn't need a password for Mailman. In fact, the Mailman password should be disabled, as it is certainly less secure than OpenID at this point in time. I want to know if there's already an openID enabled version of mailman available The OpenID project has OpenID-enabled Mailman lists, but according to Brad Knowles in the process of adapting Mailman to OpenID they broke a lot of other features, and integrating their changes is non-trivial. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] openID enabled mailman
Malveeka Tewari writes: Our focus is on providing Single Sign On but we do not want to delegate authentication to a third party. Hence we want to implement OpenID provider for our Mailman service. I don't think this is a good idea. Mailman is designed to deliver single messages to multiple parties, which it does very well, and to manage member lists, which it does tolerably well for many purposes. It is not designed to keep secrets. You may not now particularly care, but it could be very annoying later if you decide you want more security and need to switch your system. Better to put your provider in a separate place from Mailman, and have Mailman rely on and trust only your provider. You could do them on the same host if necessary but in the long run you might want to have the provider on a dedicated host, depending on how serious you become about security. and OpenID relying partyOD for our wiki etc. Now for the OpenID provider we may choose to have new passwords or use the mailman passwords. For ease of users, we want to use the mailman passwords for the OpenID provider. Again, Mailman is not very secure. In the default configuration, passwords are mailed out in cleartext over non-secure channels (and even so-called secure mail is pretty tricky -- it's much easier to secure a web application). The passwords are also stored in the clear. This means that if you want to set up OpenID for existing users by transferring their passwords, it should be possible (I don't know how offhand, though). I don't recommend that, either. Normally, people don't care that much as there's not much damage that can be done via a mailing list, except spamming, and most lists have additional defenses against that. But you plan to rely on these passwords to secure multiple services, making the value of cracking one that much higher. I would ask my own users to set new passwords in this situation. Of course, all these issues depend on a lot of factors. You may have better security than the default for the Internet in place, or much more careful users, etc. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] sending to the list
Elliott Kayne wrote: When I send to my list, I get one, but non of my subscribers seem to be getting my emails? Assuming your list is properly set up and the members are regular (non-digest) members and their delivery is not disabled, Mailman should be sending posts to them. What is the message you receive? Is it your post or a notice of some kind possibly containing your post? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] openID enabled mailman
Hi Brad, Can I also take a look at the code that the OpenID folks sent you? It'll be great if you can send me any pointers to that code. I asked on their mailing lists too but haven't received any promising response. Looking at the code might give me an idea about how to start implementing openID support fr the mailman setup I am running, Thanks Malveeka On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgwrote: on 6/7/09 12:14 PM, Malveeka Tewari said: I want to know if there's already an openID enabled version of mailman available And what files would I need to make changes to include openID support in mailman The OpenID project uses Mailman themselves, and they have hacked it to allow OpenID logins. They even shared with us the code that they have. I took a look at trying to bring this into the main codebase, and I was not able to figure out how to do that -- when they put in OpenID, they broke everything else, and I could never figure out how to get the two to co-exist at the same time. IMO, this may be a better question to ask on their mailing lists, or to ask the people who maintain their mailing lists. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.org LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrivia
On 12-Jun-2009, at 14:32, Brad Rogers wrote: In my case, it was that the people attempting to (un)subscribe were sending their requests with a plain text *and* an HTML part. The combination of the two parts added up to far more than the allowed number of lines for a message to be treated as administrivia, s was passed on to the list processing software, which promptly strips the HTML part, leaving just the one word message that arrived at the list. Is it possible that the same thing is happening on your list? Yeah, that sounds likely. I'll check on that 'fix' Mark posted. -- Rule #5: Get Kirsten Dunst Wet -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] openID enabled mailman
on 6/13/09 9:16 AM, Malveeka Tewari said: Can I also take a look at the code that the OpenID folks sent you? It'll be great if you can send me any pointers to that code. I asked on their mailing lists too but haven't received any promising response. They never made any attempt to build an OpenID provider in Mailman. All they did was hack in some OpenID Relyer code, and in the process they broke any other kind of authentication. Mailman is the wrong place to put an OpenID provider. That needs to go somewhere else, and then you can put in code that allows Mailman to be an OpenID Relyer. Looking at the code might give me an idea about how to start implementing openID support fr the mailman setup I am running, I really don't think so. They and you seem to have very different ideas as to where the OpenID provider code should go. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.org LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
