[Mailman-Users] Cleaning up 'special' list...
Hi, I have a question about the best way to clean up a special list I use with Mailman... The list in question - call it 'valid-senders' - is only used to provide a list of 'valid senders' that are allowed to post to other internal lists we use. It is always set to 'Emergency Moderation' so they never get any mail, except for bounce notifications and such (the other two lists have size limits, etc). The only members of these other lists are our own users (Sales Reps), and they both have '@valid-senders' in the 'List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted' box. The problem is, I know there have got to be a lot of addresses in the 'valid-senders' list that are no longer good - these are Sales Reps (NOT ours) for Vendors we work with, and they can have a bit of turnover - so what I'd like to do is clean the list up periodically. They are informed that they may receive periodic emails like this when I send them the welcome message after adding them, but I've never actually sent one yet. I was thinking I would simply: 1. Disable 'Emergency Moderation', 2. Send an email to the list members, informing them that I am cleaning up our lists, 3. Re-enable 'Emergency Moderation', 4. Watch for bounces and remove the bad addresses Is this the best way to do something like this? -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Test mesages
Is there some way to send a test message to a list that is only sent back to me instead of sending it out to the entire distribution? Sometimes I want to examine the logs live when a message comes in, but I don't want to keep spamming all the users with test, pls. ignore sorts of subjects. -- The Piper's calling you to join him -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test mesages
LuKreme wrote: Is there some way to send a test message to a list that is only sent back to me instead of sending it out to the entire distribution? Sometimes I want to examine the logs live when a message comes in, but I don't want to keep spamming all the users with test, pls. ignore sorts of subjects. There is no Mailman facility for this. Whether you can do it or not depends on what exactly you want to see. If it doesn't have to be a specific list, make a 'test' list. If it does have to be the specific list, but you are interested in the input side of the process rather than the output, set yourself moderated before posting. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test mesages
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:51:24 +0100, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: Is there some way to send a test message to a list that is only sent back to me instead of sending it out to the entire distribution? Sometimes I want to examine the logs live when a message comes in, but I don't want to keep spamming all the users with test, pls. ignore sorts of subjects. I configure my lists to trap the words 'test', 'help', 'spam', 'virus', and 'digest' in the subject lines. I have a spam filter rule ... ^subject:.*\btest.* ... that should deal with your need. regards, Malcolm. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Test mesages
LuKreme writes: Is there some way to send a test message to a list that is only sent back to me instead of sending it out to the entire distribution? In a certain pedantic theoretical sense, no: that means that the test message doesn't follow the same path through the code that other messages do. Sort of a Heisenberg principle for mailing list debugging. :-) So you need to say what it is you're looking for. Sometimes I want to examine the logs live when a message comes in, but I don't want to keep spamming all the users with test, pls. ignore sorts of subjects. The obvious solution for the front end of the pipeline is to set a spamtrap for test, pls. ignore. That will allow you to look at the incoming MTA log and maybe some Mailman logs, but of course it will get held before the distribution part of the pipeline. I always keep a test list which is configured the same way as the rest of my lists. It's open subscription but for some reason nobody but me ever subscribes. ;-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cleaning up 'special' list...
On 9/8/2009 12:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I was thinking I would simply: 1. Disable 'Emergency Moderation', Why? Why not just send your post and then approve it? Heh... because I'm an idiot and like to make extra work for myself? ;) 4. Watch for bounces and remove the bad addresses Is this the best way to do something like this? If you set bounce_score_threshold to 1.0 or less and bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings to 0, Mailman will remove the bounces automatically - at least the recognized ones. Ahhh - as always, fast and dead on... Caveat: there is a bug in versions 2.1.11rc2 through 2.1.12rc2 inclusive, but not in 2.1.12 and not in 2.1.11rc1 and prior, that causes bounce processing to fail if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0. I'm on 2.1.12, so now worries there. Thanks Mark! -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test mesages
On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:51 AM, LuKreme wrote: Is there some way to send a test message to a list that is only sent back to me instead of sending it out to the entire distribution? No, but it's a interesting idea. -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cleaning up 'special' list...
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I was thinking I would simply: 1. Disable 'Emergency Moderation', Why? Why not just send your post and then approve it? 2. Send an email to the list members, informing them that I am cleaning up our lists, 3. Re-enable 'Emergency Moderation', 4. Watch for bounces and remove the bad addresses Is this the best way to do something like this? If you set bounce_score_threshold to 1.0 or less and bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings to 0, Mailman will remove the bounces automatically - at least the recognized ones. Caveat: there is a bug in versions 2.1.11rc2 through 2.1.12rc2 inclusive, but not in 2.1.12 and not in 2.1.11rc1 and prior, that causes bounce processing to fail if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
