Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
Bonojour, J'ai créé une liste de distribution avec ses abonnés et un modérateur. Parmi les abonnées se trouve d'autres listes de distribution, X, Y,Z. Comment faire pour que, une fois que le modérateur approuve un message, les abonnées des liste de distribution X,Y,Z reçoivent tout de suite le message approuvé sans que les modérateur de ces listes ré approuve encore le message envoyé? Ces listes de distribution sont des abonnées qui contiennent d'autres abonnées. Merci Bien à vous Marie Yvette Leguojeu Le 7 janvier 2010 09:00, Marie-Yvette INGABIRE donsmil...@gmail.com a écrit : Olda, Vous débrouillez bien en français...j'ai compris ce que m'avais écris. je vais donc contacter mon administrateur pour voir ce qu'il peut faire. Merci Marie-Yvette Le 6 janvier 2010 22:06, Terri Oda te...@zone12.com a écrit : Marie-Yvette, (Apologies en advance: je n'ecrit pas tellement bien en français.) Oui, les messages rejectés ne vais pas etre au archive -- c'est normal. Si tu veut un record personel, vous pouvez t'envoyé un copie manuellement avec l'interface web chaque fois que vous rejet une message, ou vous pouvez utilizé l'option pour préserver au disque. Malheureusement, nous ne peuvons pas t'aider avec activer cet option: Vous avez contacté la liste mailman-users, une liste pour les personnes qui utilize le logiciel Mailman. Mais pour activer cet option, il faut que vous contact votre adminstrateur du site pour votre liste specifique. Je ne savent pas qui ce serait. Terri Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en train de configurer la catégorie une liste de distribution, pour avoir un archivage de message assez utile pour moi. Après les tests que j'ai faits jusqu'à maintenant, les messages approuvés sont archivés, tandis que ceux qui sont rejetés, je ne trouve pas de trace. D'après la catégorie de configuration *Filtre de contenu*, option *Détails de filter action* il y a différents choix. Quand on choisi de Préserver les messages supprimés, ils expliquent que ces messages(rejetés) sont sauvé dans une *file* d'atteinte du disque pour que l'administrateur de la liste puisse les voir ou les récupérer s'il le veut ou les supprimer tout court. Mais cet option est disponible seulement après activation par l'administrateur du site. Est-il possible d'activer cet option ? Merci Cordialement, Marie Yvette Leguojeu 2010/1/6 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net Christopher Adams wrote: 3) added a robots.txt file to specifically block that domain You are probably aware of this, but for those who may not be, legitimate search engines and such will honor your robots.txt file directives and meta tag (no)index,(no)follow directives in pages, but spammers and the like crawling your site for nefarious purposes will ignore them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donsmile68%40gmail.com -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fellswoop?
On 1/8/2010 1:04 AM, Marie-Yvette INGABIRE wrote: J'ai créé une liste de distribution avec ses abonnés et un modérateur. Parmi les abonnées se trouve d'autres listes de distribution, X, Y,Z. Comment faire pour que, une fois que le modérateur approuve un message, les abonnées des liste de distribution X,Y,Z reçoivent tout de suite le message approuvé sans que les modérateur de ces listes ré approuve encore le message envoyé? Ces listes de distribution sont des abonnées qui contiennent d'autres abonnées. A rough translation from http://www.online-translator.com/Default.aspx/Text I created a list of distribution with his subscribers and a moderator. Among the subscribers is of other lists of distribution, X, Y, Z. How make so that, once the moderator approves a message, the subscribers of list of distribution X, Y, Z receive right away the approved message without that moderator of these lists ré still approves the sent message? These lists of distribution are subscribers who contain others subscribers. This question is addressed in the FAQs at http://wiki.list.org/x/boA9 and http://wiki.list.org/x/1IA9. You may also wish to consider that instead of adding the X,Y and Z lists as members of the parent list you can add them as regular_include_lists as discussed at the end of the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9. Also, please note that mailman-users@python.org is an English language list. It is impolite to post in other languages that many list members do not understand. We try to be as helpful as we can, but we request that posts be in English. Machine translation of the above: Cette question est adressée dans le FAQs à http://wiki.list.org/x/boA9 et http://wiki.list.org/x/1IA9. Vous pouvez vouloir aussi estimer qu'au lieu d'ajouter les X, Y et Z énumère comme les membres de la liste parentale vous pouvez les ajouter comme regular_include_lists comme discuté à la fin du FAQ à http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9. Aussi, notez s'il vous plaît qu'est mailman-users@python.org une liste de langue anglaise. Il est impoli pour voyager par la poste dans d'autres langues que beaucoup de membres de liste ne comprennent pas. Nous essayons d'être aussi secourables que nous pouvons, mais nous demandons que les postes soient en anglais. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How to check mailman on successfully hand off the message?
Hello, folks We have about two dozens of lists set to confirm subscription. All lists are working except one. Somehow the confirmation email never get to the users even though, the smtp log indicates that Mailman dispatches a message for each subscription. Jan 06 16:14:51 2010 (2305) mailman.0.1262823290.13100.chs_pare...@mailman.server.address smtp to chs_parents for 1 recips, completed in 0.067 seconds Jan 06 16:17:29 2010 (2305) mailman.0.1262823448.13144.chs_pare...@mailman.server.address smtp to chs_parents for 1 recips, completed in 0.072 seconds Jan 06 16:19:40 2010 (2305) mailman.0.1262823579.13186.chs_pare...@mailman.server.address smtp to chs_parents for 1 recips, completed in 0.070 seconds Jan 06 16:23:39 2010 (2305) mailman.0.1262823817.13285.chs_pare...@mailman.server.address smtp to chs_parents for 1 recips, completed in 0.066 seconds On the recipient side, the ISP could not find any trace of the messages being delivered to their email server. They ask us to check whether the messages were successfully hand-off. Beside from the smtp log, any other log that may indicates the messages were successfully sent out? Our Mailman is hosted on Fedora 10, Mailman 2.1.12, Exim 4.69-7 Any advice is very appreciate for the newbie :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to check mailman on successfully hand off the message?
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 10:00:13AM -0800, Hung Phan wrote: Hello, folks We have about two dozens of lists set to confirm subscription. All lists are working except one. Curious. What's different in that list's config, that isn't with the others? Maybe dump the lists configs, and diff them? Somehow the confirmation email never get to the users even though, the smtp log indicates that Mailman dispatches a message for each subscription. Jan 06 16:14:51 2010 (2305) mailman.0.1262823290.13100.chs_pare...@mailman.server.address smtp to chs_parents for 1 recips, completed in 0.067 seconds Obscuring (if that's what you've done) may not have been too helpful there. If not, your hostname isn't the best choice. On the recipient side, the ISP could not find any trace of the messages being delivered to their email server. They ask us to check whether the messages were successfully hand-off. Beside from the smtp log, any other log that may indicates the messages were successfully sent out? Our Mailman is hosted on Fedora 10, Mailman 2.1.12, Exim 4.69-7 Your exim logs. -- ``There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.'' (C. Hoare) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to check mailman on successfully hand off themessage?
Hung Phan wrote: On the recipient side, the ISP could not find any trace of the messages being delivered to their email server. They ask us to check whether the messages were successfully hand-off. Beside from the smtp log, any other log that may indicates the messages were successfully sent out? Our Mailman is hosted on Fedora 10, Mailman 2.1.12, Exim 4.69-7 Assuming that Mailman is delivering to the local Exim, check Exim's log - probably /var/log/exim/exim_main.log. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to check mailman on successfully hand off themessage?
Bingo, got it! The exim log shows that -owner is attached to the recipient address. Got to do with umbrella list. Thank you for the advice, On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Hung Phan wrote: On the recipient side, the ISP could not find any trace of the messages being delivered to their email server. They ask us to check whether the messages were successfully hand-off. Beside from the smtp log, any other log that may indicates the messages were successfully sent out? Our Mailman is hosted on Fedora 10, Mailman 2.1.12, Exim 4.69-7 Assuming that Mailman is delivering to the local Exim, check Exim's log - probably /var/log/exim/exim_main.log. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Removing archives query.
From looking at the FAQ it appears that one can only remove mailing list archives if one has shell access. Is that correct ? If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to remove archives in a future Mailman release please ? Regards, John. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archives query.
John Fitzsimons wrote: From looking at the FAQ it appears that one can only remove mailing list archives if one has shell access. Is that correct ? If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to remove archives in a future Mailman release please ? It is not strictly necessary to have access to a traditional shell. cPanel or a hosting provider could provide some kind of control panel or web service to do this, but those things do not exist in GNU Mailman as released. There are going to be more archiving choices in MM3 via a plugin architecture. We would also like to give list admins more control over their list's archives. How that will translate into a cPanel package if at all is beyond our ability to predict. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archives query.
--On January 9, 2010 11:46:05 AM +1100 John Fitzsimons jo...@net2000.com.au wrote: From looking at the FAQ it appears that one can only remove mailing list archives if one has shell access. Is that correct ? If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to remove archives in a future Mailman release please ? To which I reply: You'll have to ask the CPanel folks about that. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Removing archives query.
John Fitzsimons writes: If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to remove archives in a future Mailman release please ? John, it's not called free software because you pay nothing for it. It's call free software because you, and I, and the general public are licensed to do almost anything with the software. The only condition in this license that matters is that if we redistribute any form of Mailman, we must provide the *recipient* with the source code of the program. (Note: *not* the public; that's important.) The company that provides cPanel has taken advantage of this license offered to *all* in the public to incorporate GNU Mailman in their hosting product. This relationship is entirely one-sided: they take the Mailman code, but have *never* provided any input to development or support of Mailman users that I know of. Yes, CPanel has its conveniences. It also has its inconveniences, and *those are entirely your problem* because we have no claim at all on cPanel's attention, by the *vendor's* choice. Please stop posting about cPanel here, and take responsibility for *your* choice. If you want to help, including helping yourself, you can (1) Go talk to your service provider, and see if you can get them to give you a copy of the cPanel version of Mailman. Make a diff and post it online, and to the mailman-develop...@python.org mailing list. According to the Mailman license, if you can get somebody to voluntarily give you a copy of a legitimately received copy, you do have the right to do that. In the future, if you have a problem (bug) with cPanel Mailman, you can point the developers to that copy, and (if they have time), you may get some help. Missing features are still your problem, whether they are something that cPanel has subtracted or something that Mailman could do but doesn't. You might get some sympathy for the latter, of course. (2) Talk to the cPanel people, find out what their plans are, and post the answers here. If they ask you *not* to do that, post simply that fact. Better yet, add either kind of answer to the FAQ on cPanel. These are not things Mailman developers can do *for* you. These companies talk only to their customers (if they even do that). Alteratively, you could bite the bullet, and ask for help in installing your own Mailman, and have access to all the facilities, as well as receiving much more detailed (not to mention enthusiastic) help on this list and (often) in private. It's called free software because *the choice is yours*. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archives query.
-Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+brian=emwd@python.org [mailto:mailman- users-bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:33 PM To: John Fitzsimons Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Removing archives query. John Fitzsimons writes: If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to remove archives in a future Mailman release please ? John, it's not called free software because you pay nothing for it. It's call free software because you, and I, and the general public are licensed to do almost anything with the software. The only condition in this license that matters is that if we redistribute any form of Mailman, we must provide the *recipient* with the source code of the program. (Note: *not* the public; that's important.) The company that provides cPanel has taken advantage of this license offered to *all* in the public to incorporate GNU Mailman in their hosting product. This relationship is entirely one-sided: they take the Mailman code, but have *never* provided any input to development or support of Mailman users that I know of. Yes, CPanel has its conveniences. It also has its inconveniences, and *those are entirely your problem* because we have no claim at all on cPanel's attention, by the *vendor's* choice. Please stop posting about cPanel here, and take responsibility for *your* choice. If you want to help, including helping yourself, you can (1) Go talk to your service provider, and see if you can get them to give you a copy of the cPanel version of Mailman. Make a diff and post it online, and to the mailman-develop...@python.org mailing list. According to the Mailman license, if you can get somebody to voluntarily give you a copy of a legitimately received copy, you do have the right to do that. In the future, if you have a problem (bug) with cPanel Mailman, you can point the developers to that copy, and (if they have time), you may get some help. Missing features are still your problem, whether they are something that cPanel has subtracted or something that Mailman could do but doesn't. You might get some sympathy for the latter, of course. (2) Talk to the cPanel people, find out what their plans are, and post the answers here. If they ask you *not* to do that, post simply that fact. Better yet, add either kind of answer to the FAQ on cPanel. These are not things Mailman developers can do *for* you. These companies talk only to their customers (if they even do that). Alteratively, you could bite the bullet, and ask for help in installing your own Mailman, and have access to all the facilities, as well as receiving much more detailed (not to mention enthusiastic) help on this list and (often) in private. It's called free software because *the choice is yours*. Wow! That is a harsh reply. I think all John was trying to find out was how to remove their archives without having direct access to the backend of mailman. Unfortunately there is not. However John's hosting company should be able to assist him in doing that. We have when requested by our own clients. He is really not posting about cPanel here. He is simply trying to get some assistance with Mailman which he is using via his cPanel hosting account. He may be perhaps confused about the relationship between cPanel and Mailman which is understandable. On a positive note, cPanel has introduce a large number of folks to Mailman who would have otherwise been ignorant of its existence. Brian EMWD.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
