[Mailman-Users] unable to post messages to my list
i have created a list with the following command in the command line /etc/newlist mtech-cs-2010 anil_moog...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in password and then i have added the aliases to the /etc/aliases file... then i got a mail in my mail box saying The mailing list `mtech-cs-2010' has just been created for you. The following is some basic information about your mailing list. Your mailing list password is: * You need this password to configure your mailing list. You also need it to handle administrative requests, such as approving mail if you choose to run a moderated list. You can configure your mailing list at the following web page: http://dcis.uohyd.ernet.in/mailman/admin/mtech-cs-2010 The web page for users of your mailing list is: http://dcis.uohyd.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/mtech-cs-2010 You can even customize these web pages from the list configuration page. However, you do need to know HTML to be able to do this. There is also an email-based interface for users (not administrators) of your list; you can get info about using it by sending a message with just the word `help' as subject or in the body, to: mtech-cs-2010-requ...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in To unsubscribe a user: from the mailing list 'listinfo' web page, click on or enter the user's email address as if you were that user. Where that user would put in their password to unsubscribe, put in your admin password. You can also use your password to change member's options, including digestification, delivery disabling, etc. Please address all questions to mailman-ad...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in. --- when i try to view my list in the interface, it is giving a message No such list mtech-cs-2010 i then added few members to the list using /bin/add_members -r s mtech-cs-2010 s is the file containing list of mail ids it gave the following dcis:/var/mailman/bin # ./add_members -r s mtech-cs-2010 /var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py:469: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated raise quickexit Subscribed: sand...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in Subscribed: anil_moog...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in a welcome message is sent to the members subscribed. when i try to post a message to the list i have created, it gave me a Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:23:34 +0530 from localhost [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mtech-cs-2010 (reason: 1) (expanded from: mtech-cs-2...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in) - Transcript of session follows - post script, list not found: mtech-cs-2010 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Test messages
I may have asked this before, but if so I can't find it in my archives. Is there a way to send a test message to a list without it being sent out to the entire list? Something like a ping that only replies to you? I have a list I host for a friend that is very sporadic. When active it can get 100 posts a day, but those days come infrequently. Sometimes he's concerned that posts are getting lost (it's happened in the past that some configuration muckup has borked the list) and he'd like to be able to check that the list is ok. -- A thousand years ago we thought the world was a bowl. Five hundred years ago we knew it was a globe. Today we know it is flat and round carried through space on the back of a turtle. Don't you wonder what shape it will turn out to be tomorrow? [Lord Vetinari] --The Truth -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test messages
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:45:43 +0100, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: I may have asked this before, but if so I can't find it in my archives. Is there a way to send a test message to a list without it being sent out to the entire list? Something like a ping that only replies to you? I have a list I host for a friend that is very sporadic. When active it can get 100 posts a day, but those days come infrequently. Sometimes he's concerned that posts are getting lost (it's happened in the past that some configuration muckup has borked the list) and he'd like to be able to check that the list is ok. I habitually configure lists with spam filter entries of the form: ^Subject:.*test.* Other entries contain the words 'spam', 'virus' and 'digest'. Then, if you only want to test the process to the list, all you need do is put 'test' into the subject line. You could, of course, apply emergency moderation for the duration of the test! I'm sure there are other options (I don't have back-end shell access to my lists) that involve stopping the outgoing mail and archive handlers. = Malcolm. -- Malcolm Austen, Oxfordshire, England -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] limitation in name of the account between the mail client and mailman?
RHEL 5.3 postfix-2.3.3 mailman-2.1.9 I have a problem with the mail client (thunderbird and Outlook Express). When sending an email to the list from the mail client and the client has set the name of the big personal information does not commands. I get this error: July 29 11:53:10 2010 (29 383) All recipients Refused: ('=? Iso-8859-1? Q? Administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati? =': (550, '5 .1.1 =? Iso-8859-1? q? administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati? =: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table ')), msgid: mailman.70.1280397189.29381.support_...@test.es July 29 11:53:10 2010 (29 383) delivery to =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati? = Failed with code 550: 5.1.1 =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati ? =: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table If I send from squirrelmail works fine. If the name of the account of the personal information I set it up shorter length also works perfect. Is there any length limitation in name of the account between the mail client and mailman? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test messages
-Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org] On Behalf Of Malcolm Austen I habitually configure lists with spam filter entries of the form: ^Subject:.*test.* Other entries contain the words 'spam', 'virus' and 'digest'. Then, if you only want to test the process to the list, all you need do is put 'test' into the subject line. You could, of course, apply emergency moderation for the duration of the test! I'm sure there are other options (I don't have back-end shell access to my lists) that involve stopping the outgoing mail and archive handlers. = Malcolm. I'm not too sure how useful this would be for testing end-to-end throughput. When I was a little green about the gills (or greener than I am now) wrt. Mailman I had a problem with an intermittently unresponsive list. I looked at most things I could think of but couldn't find the problem. Eventually the penny dropped and I realised that those pesky 'runner' processes had something to do with something in particular the Incoming and Outgoing runner. Sure enough my process list showed that the Incoming runner was there but the Outgoing runner would die. (I fixed that issue, it was something to do with directory ownerships). End result, email came into the list and then just sat there. Anyway, if you had a spam rule then surely that'd be great for testing the message coming into the list at which point it'd be blocked (as spam) but it wouldn't test whether the message would be mailed out/forwarded to the list members. I'm showing a bit of interest in this request as I'd like to know if there is a way of doing just this, sending a test email to an established list that only list admin and/or myself would recive to check the list is running fine. One thought/idea I've had is to have a test list which has only my work email address, an offsite email address and maybe one or two of my colleagues (for verification purposes), lock it right down so that only the members can use it, add the Me too tag so that we'd receive any emails we sent to the list and use that to check that the mailman service is functional. Does that sound a valid way of doing it, too much effort FWIW or missing the point as it wouldn't test a particular list just the mailman service? Regards, Steff --- Steff Watkins Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD Systems programmer Email: s.watk...@nhm.ac.uk Systems TeamPhone: +44 (0)20 7942 6000 opt 2 Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans. - HHGTTG -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test messages
Steff Watkins writes: One thought/idea I've had is to have a test list which has only my work email address, an offsite email address and maybe one or two of my colleagues (for verification purposes), lock it right down so that only the members can use it, add the Me too tag so that we'd receive any emails we sent to the list and use that to check that the mailman service is functional. Does that sound a valid way of doing it, too much effort FWIW or missing the point as it wouldn't test a particular list just the mailman service? This is precisely what I do. It is possible, but unlikely, that a particular list would have a problem. For example, it could have something to do with the size of the list, such as recipient MTAs not liking too many RCPT TOs on a single message, or a fascist (message-dropping) throttle at your ISP. But the outgoing runner doesn't care what the list is, and neither does the MTA, so the test list *is* a valid test, especially for the (fairly common, as Mailman failures go) failure case of a runner going down. At least you can rule that out. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Test messages
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12:52PM +0100, Steff Watkins wrote: One thought/idea I've had is to have a test list which has only my work email address, an offsite email address and maybe one or two of my colleagues (for verification purposes), lock it right down so that only the members can use it, add the Me too tag so that we'd receive any emails we sent to the list and use that to check that the mailman service is functional. That might be one way; although useful for those of us not on some tuppence ha'penny shoe-string ISP who believe in limiting the amount of mail transmissions (and where the punter may not know of those limits). Of course, MTA problems may also exist, which that approach wouldn't examine (nor do I see mention of testing the web interfaces work). *brainfart* Perhaps a Mailman-admin's 'test suite' might be useful? And presumably have the option to run (gah!) via the web-admin interface, as well as the command line Does that sound a valid way of doing it, too much effort FWIW or missing the point as it wouldn't test a particular list just the mailman service? using config_list on a troublesome list, a spot of sed/withlist, and config_list on a new list, may be one way to transfer the list settings over; possibly followed by remove_members -a and add_members; all of that could be made into a two arguements clonelist script. This doesn't, of course, help, if Mailman's not running -- never rule out (or forget about) the obvious -- nor, say if there's a lack of disk-space. I can't remember what, if anything, was decided about test lists in MM3. I'll be waiting for MM3, before I start fiddling with trending Mailman in Nagios; for now, my last posts script/output does the job well enough (and I am a lazy sysadmin) for me. -- ``What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary.'' (Richard Harkness) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Someone to install Mailman?
Is there anyone out there who does freelance installations of Mailman? And if so, how much do you charge an hour and how much time do you estimate it would take to install and get me started? Thanks, Alison -- Sign up for The Melton Israel Seminar - The Ultimate On-Site Learning Experience Alison Epstein FMAMS web-content coordinator aepst...@fmams.org.il 416-638-2475 North American VoIP phone 815-346-2644 North American fax 052-569-7945 Israeli cell phone (08) 946-1472 Israeli land line skype: alitraeps Summer Israel Time (GMT+3) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] about address format
A list member wants to change her subscriptions from @xxx.edu to @mail.xxx.edu. She is unable to do so globally, received this message: Bad email address provided Member name successfully changed. Later she unsubscribed from a different list and on attempting to re-subscribe with the new address (@mail.xxx.edu) she got this error: The email address you supplied is not valid. (E.g. it must contain an`@'.) Any suggestions for this type of mail address? (Didn't find anything helpful in the archives) ... and, yes I can manually subscribe her. Thank you, Sandi Gruver Unix System Administrator SBCTC-ITD 1300 Quince Street SE Olympia, WA 98504 360.704.1019 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Someone to install Mailman?
At the moment I am compelled to install Mailman, so Mailman I have on FreeBSD 6.2 does not accept messages (list test) from users - - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/local/mailmam/mail/mailman post test (reason: 127) - Transcript of session follows - /usr/local/mailmam/mail/mailman: not found 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 127 -- It's as in the case with-mail-gid is not established: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected ..as group mailnull, but the mail server to run the script as group wheel... ; The message arises on the screen after command #/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test command make -V CONFIGURE_ARGS in /usr/ports/mail/mailman gives out with-mail-gid=mailnull Thanks for help... 29.07.10, 16:32, Alison Epstein aepst...@fmams.org.il: Is there anyone out there who does freelance installations of Mailman? And if so, how much do you charge an hour and how much time do you estimate it would take to install and get me started? Thanks, Alison -- Sign up for The Melton Israel Seminar - The Ultimate On-Site Learning Experience Alison Epstein FMAMS web-content coordinator aepst...@fmams.org.il 416-638-2475 North American VoIP phone 815-346-2644 North American fax 052-569-7945 Israeli cell phone (08) 946-1472 Israeli land line skype: alitraeps Summer Israel Time (GMT+3) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tolo%40yandex.ru -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to post messages to my list
On 7/28/2010 11:55 PM, sandeep kumar wrote: i have created a list with the following command in the command line /etc/newlist mtech-cs-2010 anil_moog...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in password and then i have added the aliases to the /etc/aliases file... then i got a mail in my mail box saying The mailing list `mtech-cs-2010' has just been created for you. [...] --- when i try to view my list in the interface, it is giving a message No such list mtech-cs-2010 See my reply to your off list message. Everything points to two Mailman installations. All the command line stuff you are doing is with a Mailman installation that is not the same as the one accessed via the web. Check the ScriptAlias for mailman in the web server and see where it points. i then added few members to the list using /bin/add_members -r s mtech-cs-2010 s is the file containing list of mail ids it gave the following dcis:/var/mailman/bin # ./add_members -r s mtech-cs-2010 /var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py:469: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated raise quickexit See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/pYA9 for information about which Mailman versions are compatible with which Python versions. Subscribed: sand...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in Subscribed: anil_moog...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in a welcome message is sent to the members subscribed. when i try to post a message to the list i have created, it gave me a Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:23:34 +0530 from localhost [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mtech-cs-2010 (reason: 1) (expanded from: mtech-cs-2...@dcis.uohyd.ernet.in) - Transcript of session follows - post script, list not found: mtech-cs-2010 Your Mailman instalation in /usr/lib/mailman is not the same Mailman installation as the one in /var/mailman. These appear to be two different installations. You are creating lists with /var/mailman/bin/newlist, etc. and your web server and your aliases point to the installation in /usr/lib/mailman which is not the same Mailman instance. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] limitation in name of the account between the mail client and mailman?
On 7/29/2010 3:33 AM, Esteban Torres wrote: RHEL 5.3 postfix-2.3.3 mailman-2.1.9 I have a problem with the mail client (thunderbird and Outlook Express). When sending an email to the list from the mail client and the client has set the name of the big personal information does not commands. I get this error: July 29 11:53:10 2010 (29 383) All recipients Refused: ('=? Iso-8859-1? Q? Administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati? =': (550, '5 .1.1 =? Iso-8859-1? q? administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati? =: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table ')), msgid: mailman.70.1280397189.29381.support_...@test.es July 29 11:53:10 2010 (29 383) delivery to =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati? = Failed with code 550: 5.1.1 =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Administrative = f3n_of_system_and_configurati ? =: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table The client is trying to send to the address Administrativeón of system and configurati instead of some address like listn...@example.com This is strictly a mail client issue. It has nothing to do with Mailman as far as I can see. I do not understand what the client has set the name of the big personal information does not commands means, but perhaps this has something to do with it. If I send from squirrelmail works fine. If the name of the account of the personal information I set it up shorter length also works perfect. Is there any length limitation in name of the account between the mail client and mailman? Are you saying the list name is Administrativeón of system and configurati...? If so, the list name can't contain spaces, but there is no Mailman limitation on the length of the listname. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Someone to install Mailman?
Please don't hijack threads. Post new topics as a new post, not as a reply to an unrelated message. On 7/29/2010 7:29 AM, Толкунов Григорий wrote: At the moment I am compelled to install Mailman, so Mailman I have on FreeBSD 6.2 does not accept messages (list test) from users - - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/local/mailmam/mail/mailman post test (reason: 127) - Transcript of session follows - /usr/local/mailmam/mail/mailman: not found 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 127 -- Your aliases or whatever your MTA uses to deliver mail to Mailman do/does not point to the correct location for the mail/mailman wrapper. This says the MTA is trying to pipe the mail to /usr/local/mailmam/mail/mailman, and that file is not found. It's as in the case with-mail-gid is not established: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected ..as group mailnull, but the mail server to run the script as group wheel... ; The message arises on the screen after command #/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test command make -V CONFIGURE_ARGS in /usr/ports/mail/mailman gives out with-mail-gid=mailnull This is a separate issue from the one above. It says that your Mailman has been configured to expect the mailman/mail/mailman wrapper to be invoked by the some process running as group 'mailnull', but the MTA is invoking it as group 'wheel'. You can see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/tYA9 for a more detailed explanation, but how to fix it is a FreeBSD packaging question. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] about address format
Sandi Gruver wrote: A list member wants to change her subscriptions from @xxx.edu to @mail.xxx.edu. She is unable to do so globally, received this message: Bad email address provided Member name successfully changed. There should be no reason why Mailman would not accept an address of the form usern...@mail.xxx.edu for a global or individual list address change from the user's options page. Later she unsubscribed from a different list and on attempting to re-subscribe with the new address (@mail.xxx.edu) she got this error: The email address you supplied is not valid. (E.g. it must contain an`@'.) I'm only guessing here, but it seems she is not actually providing an email address of the form usern...@mail.xxx.edu. She is providing an invalid address which is syntactically invalid for some reason other than the domain's being mail.xxx.edu. Any suggestions for this type of mail address? (Didn't find anything helpful in the archives) ... and, yes I can manually subscribe her. And can you subscribe her mail.xxx.edu address using the methods that she is using (subscribe from the list's listinfo page)? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org