Re: [Mailman-Users] Kernel update breaks Mailman!!
On 02/20/2014 02:04 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: Here's a sampling of the qrunner log from the wee hours, before I started poking at the problem to try to fix it: Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2447) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2447) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2445) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2445) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2446) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2446) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2451) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master watcher caught SIGINT. Restarting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2444) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2444) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2448) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2450) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2449) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2451) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2448) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2450) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2445, sig: None, sts: 2, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2446, sig: None, sts: 2, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2451, sig: None, sts: 2, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2448, sig: None, sts: 2, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2444, sig: None, sts: 2, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2447, sig: None, sts: 2, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] OK, From what you report here and elsewhere, it appears the issue was with OutgoingRunner not processing Mailman's 'out' queue. If the above log excerpt (appears to be from a mailmanctl restart) is complete, you will note that there are three entries for most runners, e,g. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2447) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2447) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2443) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2447, sig: None, sts: 2, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] But there is only one for OutgoingRunner Feb 20 03:22:02 2014 (2449) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. suggesting that it was hung and never terminated. Had it been me at that point, I would have stopped Mailman and made sure it was completely stopped per the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/_4A9, and then started it to see if that fixed the problem. If the out queue were still not being processed, I would try to trace the OutgoingRunner process to see where it was hung. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 3 and OSCON 2014
On 02/20/2014 07:09 PM, Tom Browder wrote: Two questions: 1. What is the definitive link for the MM 3 branch for wannabe users (I haven't been able to find such on the wiki yet, but I know it's there)? I'm not sure what you're looking for, but maybe http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running, aka http://wiki.list.org/x/PwDL. 2. Is MM going to have a presence at O'reilly's OSCON 2014 in July? I don't plan to be there, but others may. There will be a number of us at PyCon in April https://us.pycon.org/2014/. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 3 and OSCON 2014
On Feb 21, 2014, at 08:15 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: 2. Is MM going to have a presence at O'reilly's OSCON 2014 in July? I don't plan to be there, but others may. There will be a number of us at PyCon in April https://us.pycon.org/2014/. I won't be at OSCON either. We'll be sprinting on Mailman 3.0 at Pycon. I want to emphasize two things at the sprint: working on Postorius and Hyperkitty, and porting MM3 to Python 3. But we can work on other things if you have an interest. AFAICT, the sprint page is not up yet though. Please come and join us! -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problem with messages held in Moderator Queue
I run a mailman (2.1.14-3ubuntu0.1) mailing list for a client. There are currently 14 emails stuck in the moderator queue. We've tried over and over again to choose to Discard them and click on Submit. Every time, the HTTP request POSTs to /cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/mailing-list-name-here, which 301 redirects to the same URL and the GET request loads exactly the same as before (i.e. it didn't remove any of the stuck emails). I've had a look at the filesystem and the /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailing-list-name-here/request.pck file's timestamp gets updated. That file (and the ones named /var/lib/mailman/data/heldmsg-mailing-list-name-here-10.pck) are owned by the list group which has www-data as a member (Nginx operates as www-data). Can anyone suggest what I should try next to get the web interface working? I know they can be deleted via a command line script, but I'm assuming if I do that, I'm going to be always doing this and I want the client to be able to do it themselves via the web interface. Many thanks, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with messages held in Moderator Queue
On 02/21/2014 08:07 AM, Andy Jeffries wrote: Every time, the HTTP request POSTs to /cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/mailing-list-name-here, which 301 redirects to the same URL and the GET request loads exactly the same as before (i.e. it didn't remove any of the stuck emails). That's the issue. The redirect is losing the POST data. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/ioA9 (3rd paragraph). Can anyone suggest what I should try next to get the web interface working? Fix your web server to not redirect. If this is a redirect from http to https, see paragraph 2 of the above FAQ. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Kernel update breaks Mailman!!
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 05:56 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: OK, From what you report here and elsewhere, it appears the issue was with OutgoingRunner not processing Mailman's 'out' queue. If the above log excerpt (appears to be from a mailmanctl restart) is complete, you will note that there are three entries for most runners, e,g. Well I can't reproduce the Mailman list problem today. I (re)updated the kernel version to 3.2.0-59-generic x86_64 and everything seems to be working OK. The only obvious change is the aforementioned issue with the bind9 name server daemon which requires an explicit IPv4 network interface ACL instead of defaulting to receiving on ALL interfaces if the IPv4 ACL is absent in the config. I didn't update bind, so this is kernel dependent. It's possible that some features of v4 and v6 address handling have been merged (there's an IPv6 interface ACL in the bind9 config). It's also possible that attempts at name resolution hung up Mailman's qrunner. If it won't break, I can't fix it :-S Thanks for your time and attention. -- Lindsay Haisley | Everything works if you let it FMP Computer Services | 512-259-1190 | --- The Roadie http://www.fmp.com| -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Kernel update breaks Mailman!!
On 02/21/2014 01:03 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: It's also possible that attempts at name resolution hung up Mailman's qrunner. That's a possibility, but the only name OutgoingRunner looks up is the value of SMTPHOST which in a more or less default Mailman is 'localhost' which should be resolved through /etc/hosts. It is also possible that OutgoingRunner got wedged for some transient reason unrelated to the kernel upgrade. If it won't break, I can't fix it :-S True ... -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 3 and OSCON 2014
Mark Sapiro writes: 1. What is the definitive link for the MM 3 branch for wannabe users (I haven't been able to find such on the wiki yet, but I know it's there)? I'm not sure what you're looking for, but maybe http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running, aka http://wiki.list.org/x/PwDL. Note that that page is NOT up-to-date. Get the Mailman sources (including Postorius and HyperKitty) and read the installation instructions with the sources. Postorius and HyperKitty may not be very different, but Mailman core now uses a completely different framework for setup. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
