[Mailman-Users] Passwords
We have set up Mailman as a closed, private list for an international society. Members are subscribed by the Secretary, via the Admin control panel. (Anyone who wants to join the list has to e-mail the Secretary, and only the society members are eligible to be joined to the list.) As far as I can see, that means that members won't ever be asked for a password/don't need a password to send messages to the list. But they still would need a password to be able to view the Archives which we have set to private. When I tested accessing the archives, I got in with my own e-mail address and the Admin password (my own e-mail address is on the subscriber list and is difference from the list-owner e-mail address). Obviously, we can't give 400-plus people the Admin or Moderator passwords so that they can view the Archives. Is there a way of having a third password, which we can give to the membership (and reset from time to time), to enable members to view the Archives? TVMIA Rachel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords
At 17:05 01/08/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: In your subscription scenario, the password is randomly generated. It will be mailed to the member in the list welcome message, and unless disabled by the list or the user, the user will receive a monthly email reminder. Excellent - thank you! Regards Rachel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Editing Subscriber Options page html and viewing/checking the results
This question is about editing the html on the Subscriber Options page. I have begun editing this to give it the same look and feel as the rest of the client's web site (as I have already done for the public information page). Is there somewhere, a URL where I can (as Admin) can view the changes I have made in my browser, please? We haven't sent out the first welcome message yet, so I don't have a Mailman-generated password, only the Admin one. Thank you. Rachel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing Subscriber Options page html andviewing/checking the results
Thank you - exactly what I was looking for. Rachel At 21:48 04/08/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: Go to the list admin Membership Management...-Membership List page(s) and click on any member's email address. Rachel Mawhood wrote: This question is about editing the html on the Subscriber Options page. ... Is there somewhere, a URL where I can (as Admin) can view the changes I have made in my browser, please? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords
Our list welcome message was sent out to the members by the Secretary yesterday but he sent it as an ordinary mailman@ message and it didn't contain any password in it. We'll have to send another, additional, message, just to get the passwords generated, but I will have to give the Secretary a description of how to do this. Ie 1. Log into Mailman control panel 2. Scroll down the General Options to List-specific text prepended to new-subscriber welcome message 3. Enter any text to be sent in the message as well as the password 4. ? 5. ? I'd be grateful for help with the rest of this. You'll remember that all the members were subscribed by the Secretary - they didn't subscribe themselves - I can't see how to create and send a welcome message (or a reminder message) that includes passwords (ie that the Mailman program recognises as THE welcome message and so will include the passwords). Hope this makes sense. Rachel At 17:05 01/08/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rachel Mawhood wrote: Obviously, we can't give 400-plus people the Admin or Moderator passwords so that they can view the Archives. Is there a way of having a third password, which we can give to the membership (and reset from time to time), to enable members to view the Archives? The admin and moderator passwords work (even without email address) for accessing the archives, but each list member (including admins and moderators if they are also members) has her/his own list password. In your subscription scenario, the password is randomly generated. It will be mailed to the member in the list welcome message, and unless disabled by the list or the user, the user will receive a monthly email reminder. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords
Hi Mark Thank you for this - you have saved the day! :-) Cron job run. Everyone now has their password. Phew. I have done 3 to 5 (of your message) in the control panel, too. Regards Rachel At 15:56 10/09/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: ... Once a person is a list member, you can't send another welcome message without unsubscribing and resubscribing the member. You can send a password reminder to everyone on the list by first making sure that Send monthly password reminders? on the General Options page is set to Yes and then from a shell, running Mailman's cron/mailpasswds -l listname To ensure the welcome is sent when doing mass subscribes in the future 1. Log into Mailman control panel 2. Scroll down the General Options to List-specific text prepended to new-subscriber welcome message 3. Enter any text to be sent in the message as well as the password 3. Optionally enter any additional, list specific text to be sent along with the standard welcome message - this is a one time step. 4. Make sure that Send welcome message to newly subscribed members? is set to Yes - this is a one time step. 5. When using Membership Management... - Mass Subscription to add members, make sure that Send welcome messages to new subscribees? is set to Yes. This will be the default if step 4 was done. ... Mailman is not going to add the members password to any ordinary message. The only messages to the user that contain the password are the actual Mailman generated list welcome message, the password reminders sent from cron/maillpasswds (normally run monthly on the 1st by cron) and a user requested password reminder from the user options login page. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Customising the look of the subscriber login and archive pages
Hi list I have customised the html of three pages - general list information, user specific options, and subscribe results - to have the same look and feel as the rest of the client's web site. It appears not to be possible to do the same to the subscriber login and archive pages - is that correct? (I need to be able to explain this, when the client realises this and wants to know why these pages are still in the default Mailman blue and white.) TVIA Rachel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] One member has already lost his password [was: Passwords]
Further to this, one of the members has already lost his password ... :-) Will I break anything if I go into his Subscriber Options page via the Admin Control panel and Admin password and press the button to send him a reminder of his password? TVIA Rachel -- At 15:52 11/09/2008, Rachel Mawhood wrote: Hi Mark Thank you for this - you have saved the day! :-) Cron job run. Everyone now has their password. Phew. I have done 3 to 5 (of your message) in the control panel, too. Regards Rachel At 15:56 10/09/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: ... Once a person is a list member, you can't send another welcome message without unsubscribing and resubscribing the member. You can send a password reminder to everyone on the list by first making sure that Send monthly password reminders? on the General Options page is set to Yes and then from a shell, running Mailman's cron/mailpasswds -l listname To ensure the welcome is sent when doing mass subscribes in the future 1. Log into Mailman control panel 2. Scroll down the General Options to List-specific text prepended to new-subscriber welcome message 3. Enter any text to be sent in the message as well as the password 3. Optionally enter any additional, list specific text to be sent along with the standard welcome message - this is a one time step. 4. Make sure that Send welcome message to newly subscribed members? is set to Yes - this is a one time step. 5. When using Membership Management... - Mass Subscription to add members, make sure that Send welcome messages to new subscribees? is set to Yes. This will be the default if step 4 was done. ... Mailman is not going to add the members password to any ordinary message. The only messages to the user that contain the password are the actual Mailman generated list welcome message, the password reminders sent from cron/maillpasswds (normally run monthly on the 1st by cron) and a user requested password reminder from the user options login page. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/rachel%40longitude0.co.uk Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] One member has already lost his password [was:Passwords]
Hi Mark Actually, he should go the the options login screen at http://www.example.com/mailman/options/list_name and enter his email address at the top and click Remind at the bottom. That URL is serving a 404. Rachel - At 15:12 19/09/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rachel Mawhood wrote: Further to this, one of the members has already lost his password ... :-) Will I break anything if I go into his Subscriber Options page via the Admin Control panel and Admin password and press the button to send him a reminder of his password? Actually, he should go the the options login screen at http://www.example.com/mailman/options/list_name and enter his email address at the top and click Remind at the bottom. Then you don't have to be involved other than giving people this instruction. You can't do exactly what you suggest, because it will take you to the options page at http://www.example.com/mailman/options/list_name/user--at--example.net and you will be already authenticated as admin, so you will be at the options page with no Remind button. You then have to click Log out which will take you to the options log in page for the user (but won't log you out as admin) where you can click Remind. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] One member has already lost his password[was:Passwords]
Did you modify it appropriately for your installation and list name? Er, user error. :-) Thank you, Mark and Harry - I've got it now. Rachel At 16:42 19/09/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rachel Mawhood wrote: Actually, he should go the the options login screen at http://www.example.com/mailman/options/list_name and enter his email address at the top and click Remind at the bottom. That URL is serving a 404. Did you modify it appropriately for your installation and list name? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Looking for a new Mailman host
Hi list My client is looking to move his Mailman from self-hosting to somewhere else. I found this http://wiki.list.org/display/COM/Mailman+hosting+services but the first organisation I wrote to, taken from this list, said that they are probably going to cease offering and running this Mailman hosting service in the near future. So may I ask you for recommendations? Although my client is based in the UK, the Mailman hosting company could be in Germany (my client speaks German fluently) or in the USA. Thanks in advance. Rachel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
