Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual domain support
Geoff Shang wrote: This would appear to be the sticking point. The aliases file doesn't generate fully-qualified Email addresses, only local parts. How do I ensure that a message to annou...@foo.com doesn't go to annou...@bar.org? This must be doable, because if it's not, then this defeats the whole point of doing this in the first place. Presumably I need to do this in postfix/main.cf somehow but I'm at a loss as to how to do this. Not sure if this will help you or not, but I'll share anywhere ... I have a multi setup for mailman to host multiple domains. All my list domains are configured as 'lists.$domain', for example 'lists.yeehaw.net'. My mailman installations all go under /home/mailman/lists.$domain I don't know how this is done in postfix, but in sendmail I have the following: = /etc/mail/aliases/$domain-aliases mailman-lists.$domain \ |/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman post mailman mailman-admin-lists.$domain:\ |/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces-lists.$domain: \ |/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm-lists.$domain: \ |/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman confirm mailman = /etc/mail/virtusertable mail...@lists.$domain mailman-lists.$domain mailman-ad...@lists.$domainmailman-admin-lists.$domain mailman-boun...@lists.$domain mailman-bounces-lists.$domain mailman-conf...@lists.$domain mailman-confirm-lists.$domain This ensures that an incoming e-mail to say for example 'mailman-ad...@lists.$domain' gets rerouted to 'mailman-admin-lists.$domain' which the alias then expands in to '|/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman admin mailman' This allows one to have various mailman@'various domains' going to the same server through the same MTA without it going nutso. Now you may be wondering why I renamed the 'mailman' binary to '$domain-mailman'. That's because of permissions within sendmail. Any binary that is going to be sending stuff out needs to be allowed by sendmail, and since I have multiple installations of mailman, in different paths, you can't just tell sendmail it's called 'mailman'. It will get utterly confused when the various lists are trying to send something out. So, by renaming each one to their respective $domain, it keeps sendmail from going bonkers. In my /usr/adm/sm.bin/ I have various symlinks to $domain-mailman which link back to /home/mailman/lists-$domain/mail/$domain-mailman Cheers -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:ash...@pcraft.com . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 2901 55th Street http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80301, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How did I break my mailman?
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, TGPlatt, WebMaster wrote: All this stuff worked FINE yesterday before the move; so somehow this is clearly related to the move; but I'm not exactly sure what could be wrong. Any troubleshooting suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to answer these questions: 1.Why don't confirmations work? 2.2. Why can't mailman send emails to list members? Did you by any chance forget to (re)install the crontab that runs most of Mailman's background tasks? -- L | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's my mail going?
Jon Slater wrote: I just set up a new Mailman server (Fedora Core 8) and followed the instructions I found in the FAQs to move my lists. Did you set up, and start the cron task? -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
Mark Sapiro wrote: I don't see these here. Perhaps it's some difference between gcc versions or configurations. Would you like to see a full log of the compile, maybe that'll shed some light? -- A -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
Mark Sapiro wrote: It looks like the #include Python.h near the beginning of _koco.c is failing. Is there a python2.4 directory in /usr/include? That was it. python-devel was not installed on this machine. Would be nice if the configure script checked for all the necessary header files prior to compiling/installing. It installed now...though the bazillion errors were still there: src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3009: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3009: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness In file included from src/_koco.c:121: src/euckr_codec.h: In function ‘euc_kr_encode’: src/euckr_codec.h:127: warning: format ‘%04x’ expects type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 3 has type ‘Py_UNICODE’ In file included from src/_koco.c:122: src/cp949_codec.h: In function ‘cp949_encode’: src/cp949_codec.h:151: warning: format ‘%04x’ expects type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 3 has type ‘Py_UNICODE’ In file included from src/_koco.c:123: src/koco_stream.h: In function ‘__euc_kr_decode’: src/koco_stream.h:42: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/koco_stream.h:43: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/koco_stream.h: In function ‘__cp949_decode’: src/koco_stream.h:135: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/koco_stream.h:136: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
This seems to be a recurring problem, based on a Google search: No module named korean. I'm moving lists from one server running Mailman 2.1.9 to another server. I picked one list domain to move and test, so I grabbed the 'archives', 'data', 'lists', 'logs' and 'qfiles' folders and moved them over to the new server. Paths are all identical. Next I untarred Mailman 2.1.9, run configure and hit make...it ran till it hit the following: Compiling /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/Mailman/i18n.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/update, line 46, in ? import paths File /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/bin/paths.py, line 60, in ? import korean ImportError: No module named korean make: *** [update] Error 1 Looking in /pythonlib/ I only see an 'email' folder, nothing else. The system is running FC5 with Python 2.4.3. -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:418: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:484: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:549: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:569: error: array type has incomplete element type src/koco_stream.h:570: error: ‘PyCFunction’ undeclared here (not in a function) src/koco_stream.h:570: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader___init__’ src/koco_stream.h:573: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_read’ src/koco_stream.h:576: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_readline’ src/koco_stream.h:579: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_readlines’ src/koco_stream.h:582: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_reset’ src/koco_stream.h:585: error: ‘NULL’ undeclared here (not in a function) src/_koco.c:129: error: array type has incomplete element type src/_koco.c:130: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘euc_kr_decode’ src/_koco.c:131: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘euc_kr_encode’ src/_koco.c:132: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘cp949_decode’ src/_koco.c:133: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘cp949_encode’ src/_koco.c: In function ‘init_koco’: src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘PyObject’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘m’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘d’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘t’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect src/_koco.c:145: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_InitModule’ src/_koco.c:148: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyModule_GetDict’ src/_koco.c:150: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyClass_New_WithMethods’ src/_koco.c:151: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyDict_SetItemString’ src/_koco.c:152: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_DECREF’ src/_koco.c:154: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyString_FromString’ src/_koco.c:158: error: ‘ErrorObject’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:158: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyErr_NewException’ src/_koco.c:163: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyErr_Occurred’ src/_koco.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_FatalError’ error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 make[1]: *** [install-packages] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mailman/mailman-2.1.9/misc' ...right there. -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender Name in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 I've looked through the archives and have yet to find an answer to this. I'm running an anonymous discussion list. The list is setup so replies are by directed back to the list. I would like to be able to add the senders/posters name (the (optional) name that is in the system) to the header, message or footer. I want it this way to dummy proof the list by forcing a signature. Any way this can be done? Jeff You might want to read FAQ 3.15 as a start. It tells you how to enable personalization on an installation, and how to set it up per list. Once enabled, you can click on any of the 'about' links when you're browsing the admin site for your list and it gives you pointers on how to add personalized messages to the message. Do keep in mind that you're taking a performance hit with personalization. So be careful with that. -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender Name in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have personalization turn on but I didn't think it had a variable for the poster/senders name (not that I found). Am I missing some thing? I know it has the TO: username variable. But thats not what I'm looking for. Log in to your admin site, go under the 'Non-digest options' and enable the personalize option. Then click the 'Details for msg header' link in the next box below that personalization option. Read the instructions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender Name in message
Mark Sapiro wrote: All of the personalization substitutions are for the RECIPIENT, not the SENDER. Ah yes, I did overlook that part. My bad. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers bouncing
Debbie wrote: I keep having about 90% of my 3000 subscribers bouncing on a regular basis. I've checked and most are good addresses. Even the address that I use keeps bouncing, and sending me the bounce message, even though I get all the messages I send. I'd start by finding out why they're bouncing. If you're finding out that their addresses are valid, and yet your messages are bouncing, then you need to start by figuring out the reason for the bounce. And that can be a number of things... -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Upgrading after crash
Our list server decided to take a dive yesterday so I spent the day rebuilding. So far everything seems to be working just peachy. However, I have this nagging feeling I'm forgetting something, so I thought I'd ask the experts. Maybe I did over look something, not sure... So after getting the server back up and running, I copied the following from backup: /home/mailman/[domain]/archives /home/mailman/[domain]/data /home/mailman/[domain]/lists I didn't care for what was stuck in qfiles, nor any running locks and what not. After fixing the directory permissions, I installed mailman 2.1.9 (which was an upgrade from 2.1.8 for me) and after starting cron and the qrunner, everything appears fine. Passwords are still what they were and mail is flowing. All of the web services are working as well (still under suexec.) So, what did I forget? -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading after crash
Jim Popovitch wrote: Custom scripts in /usr/local/mailman/cron|cgi-bin| ? Custom settings in mm_cfg.py? Custom site html in /home/mailman/*/html/ Queued files (bounces, etc) in /home/mailman/*/queue/* None of the above may apply, but that's my check list when upgrading. Yup, none of those applied. But thanks for the list. One day I may need that... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites
Jim Popovitch wrote: The problem with this approach is that Mailman will still only use the single specified mail server, rather than processing a list of mailservers defined as MX records for a DNS domain. If I have a domain name for which there are 3 MXs setup in a Round Robin configuration, wouldn't mailman be given a different IP each time? For example: ; zone file fragment @ IN MX 10 mail.example.com. mail IN A 192.168.0.4 IN A 192.168.0.5 IN A 192.168.0.6 If I tell mailman SMTPHOST='mail.example.com', in theory it should receive a different IP to connect to each time it queries that host name. UNLESS mailman is internally caching that information (to use again on subsequent runs.) -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites
Carl Zwanzig wrote: Probably the easiest way to get the 'multiple' domains that you want is to run one instance of mailman for each domain. Yoy can then configure the smtphost for that specific domain. And to second this part of Carl's e-mail, this is exactly what I'm doing on my end. I wanted to be able to have the same mailing list *name* exist across multiple virtual domains. Back in January 2003 I posted a question about this, and at the time, Barry Warsaw replied with the following: -- AMK Under MM2.0.x I created separate installations for AMK different virtual hosts. This allowed me to create the same AMK list name, on a different virtual host without having mailman AMK conflict. Now, with MM2.1, how should I continue to do this? MM2.1 doesn't lift this restriction, so your best bet is to continue your current approach. However, there /is/ a semi-supported extension mechanism that you might be able to use to share one installation to do it all. See the Mailman/Site.py file for details, although there's no guarantee this will give you enough of a hook. -Barry -- So far I haven't seen this change, and to be perfectly honest, I don't really expect it to either. I can't speak for everyone, but I think the number of people who have the same type of installation as me are fairly limited compared to everyone else who runs MM. But then, I could be wrong. MM does what it was designed to do. The fact that a few of us have quirky setups, I don't think is enough to go through a rewrite. :) Just my two cents. But to comment on Jay Vaagen's original post, I think separating the virtual domains across multiple MM installations might be the easier way to go. I have one server that's is specifically for MM, and it's hosting 7 different domains, each one with anywhere between 5 to 50 lists on each installation. -- Ash -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Changing max_recipients
If I change my SMTP_MAX_RCPTS (in Defaults.py) while something is being sent out, is there anyway to have mailman ... uh ... recalculate if you will and continue sending where it was, but with the new max_recipient number instead of the old one? Or am I stuck till this queue finishes? -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mail to -bounces address
I'm receiving a lot of spam that comes in to our lists' [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. And mailman will dutifully tell me they're Uncaught bounces. All fine and well, but is there some way I can simply avoid that all together? I can't block that email address, can I? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Black hole
Dennis Putnam wrote: I am having trouble with my distribution lists (well, only one is currently under test). I can see from the mail.log file that an incoming message was processed and sent to 'mailman'. However, no one on the list received anything and I cannot see anything in the log where it was distributed. The message seems to have gone into a black hole without a trace. Is the mailman process running? Is the crontab running? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail smrsh + multiple mailman
I have a bit of an odd one here. I have multiple mailman installations on one machine (for reasons we won't detail here) as follows: ~mailman/host1_list/mailman install for one specific hostname ~mailman/host2_list/mailman install for another specific hostname etc. When e-mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] arrives, it goes into the appropriate folder and does what Mailman does best. The same for [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc., etc. (this setup allows me to have the same list name across multiple domains, behaving as individual lists) The problem I'm running into now is sendmail's smrsh. I can copy the wrapper from one of those hosts into sendmail smrsh's folder, however it will only work for that one host installation. It won't work for the next. And since all the wrappers are called 'mailman', obviously I can't copy all of them in the same (smrsh) folder. So, my question, or questions: a) Is there an easy solution to this where smrsh will work? b) If not, can the 'mailman' wrapper be renamed? (this of course means aliases also get adjusted accordingly) -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Install errors
I'm installing mailman 2.1.6 on a fresh system running FC4 (fresh being that it was just installed.) Configure and make went without a problem, but when I went to install it, my screen got filled with many many lines of this: src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function encode_euc_jp: src/_japanese_codecs.c:147: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function encode_shift_jis: src/_japanese_codecs.c:381: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function encode_ms932: In file included from src/_koco.c:49: src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1494: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness In file included from src/_koco.c:50: src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1614: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness It is a very very long list of lines like that. Someone care to explain? Is it just because of the Japanese characters? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Hrm, yes, that would be a problem (I just tested it and it's indeed visible to everyone, despite the URL difference.) Errr, I was wrong. It helps if I wasn't the one logged in, making administrative changes, and also checking on the archives at the same time. Once I used a different browser, it worked just fine (non-members and not-logged-in members can't get to the private archives.) So, that means that so far, mailman is working quite nicely within a suexec environment, with the set-gid bit removed from all the scripts that reside in /cgi-bin/. Disclaimer: I'm still not 100% sure whether removing the set-gid bits will have any adverse complications later. I'm still in the early stages of testing. So please don't quote me on it working fine under this environment. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] SUEXEC question
Mailman likes to have the scripts in /cgi-bin/ to be run with set-gid, however SUEXEC won't allow it. So, a) can mailman work in a SUEXEC environment if I turn OFF the set-gid bit?, or b) what other caveats do I have to look out for with mailman running in a SUEXEC environment? I looked in the FAQ for 'suexec' but that search turned up empty, so I'm not sure if I'm not searching for the right term, or whether no one has tried it yet. There is also no mention of suexec anywhere in the source files or documentation. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
So right now I'm faced with the following error: - Transcript of session follows - /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so why would python complain that it can't open it? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: So right now I'm faced with the following error: - Transcript of session follows - /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so why would python complain that it can't open it? I forgot to add: the permissions are correct, but for the mail-gid as well as cgi-gid. That I checked over and over, and they're correct. So what else could be causing the problem? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Mark Sapiro wrote: It's hard to know what the problem might be because you seem to be presenting a moving target and not telling us much about what you're doing. Your initial post was about suEXEC and removing the setgid bit from the various wrappers in the cgi-bin/ directory. Yes it was, and after removing the set-gid bits from everything within the /cgi-bin/, I kept on trucking because it seemed to run just fine. I say seemed because I haven't done a whole lot of testing just yet. When I was ready to do that, I ran into the unknown mailer problem... Which by the way has now been solved as well. Keep reading please... First of all, the scripts/post script is not normally found in the lists/ directory. This is correct, however I run mailman across several domains, on the same server, and its built-in virtual domain capabilities simply don't allow me to do what I want to do (or what my clients want.) So, I install mailman under one user, but in separate folders (for separate domains) /lists/ being one of them (this by the way was brought up several times in the past.) So yes, your assumption is correct, I do configure mailman with --prefix=/home/mailman/domain/ So, are you trying to remove setgid from everything and somehow give permissions to the mail-gid and the cgi-gid? I don't really know about running Mailman under suEXEC. Neither do I, however with our recent web server upgrades and batting down the hatches, I'm forces to find a way to install Mailman under suexec. So this was my project of the day. I think what this really means is it isn't possible to set Mailman up properly to run with suEXEC. Maybe so, however I'm still testing it out. Yes, I have removed the set-gid bit from anything within the /cgi-bin/ folder since that's what suexec requires. As for the other error (unknown mailer error), python won't read/execute programs in a folder that's g-x which /home/mailman/ was. Once that restriction was removed, it happily worked. Now I need to continue testing, sending myself mail, subscribing, etc., etc. So far, it's working. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm not saying it won't work. I think it probably will. The one issue I think you may have is if you have private archives, they may turn out to be accessible to anyone because your web server now runs as group mailman which is documented as wrong for this reason. Hrm, yes, that would be a problem (I just tested it and it's indeed visible to everyone, despite the URL difference.) I'd hate to have to come up with a login procedure outside of mailman simply because it won't play well with suexec. Yes I realize it's mentioned very specifically that mailman needs for the exec not to be run as the mailman user, however that will go against suexec's security feature. So I guess my question now is, what can be done to make this work? Or maybe a better question would be, when will mailman reach a point where it will and can run within a suexec environment? I like my security and I like using mailman. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment
Not sure how to configure and shut this off, but I noticed when someone sends a plain/text formatted e-mail to a list, the footer comes in as part of the message. However, when someone sends a text/html message, the footer becomes an attachment. Is there a way to make the footer always be part of the message? Or is this something I need to put before hitting mailman (like stripmime) to overcome this problem? Running mailman 2.1.5... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade question
Having moved from mailman 2.0.11 to 2.1.5, I'm left with a few questions: 1) What, if anything, do I need to do to make sure the old lists work with the new mailman? When I installed 2.1.5, it told me that it checked/fixed/converted lists at the very end of the installation. Does that mean I'm all done, and I don't have to do anything else with the list files? 2) Paths also changed when I upgraded. The previous installation was in /usr/people/mailman, and it's now in /home/mailman. Presumably, all the lists are still assuming they're using the old path. What needs to be done to get that solved? Feel free to simply point me to the appropriate answer somewhere on the web, if it's available. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Email with URLS
We'd like to setup a mailing list that we can use to email our clients from time to time. What I'd like to know is if I can, somehow, include a URL in the email body that has a unique ID that we can track when someone clicks on that URL. Is there some way I can create a message with the URL in it, send it to the list, and have mailman append some ID to it somehow. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailmanctl -s
Vivek Khera wrote: And you know for certain that no other files were corrupted and horribly broken? I don't. Some of us live on the edge, and bank on the file system to repair itself during bootup (mine do.). I have 12 servers running 24/7 and I have yet to worry about any of them getting hosed during a power failure, or any other type of down time. Then again, I also have battery backups that will shut them down if needed, and I maintain nightly backups, so even in the event of a catastrophic failure, I can recover fairly quick. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forgot admin password :(
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run a closed mailing list haven't had 2 admin it for ages. I need to now, but I forgot the password :(( Is there anything I can do to recover it? Use the sitewide admin password you set when you first installed Mailman. And if you don't remember that one either, run $MAILMAN/bin/mmsitepass to reset it, then log in to the list with the new sitewide passwd, and change the list password. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Failures after Sendmail upgrade
Bob Sully wrote: Ashley: Nice thought, but no go. Plus. /etc/smrsh already contained the link. I followed your steps below; no joy. Hrm, something in your sendmail installation is messed up. I've always installed it from source (from sendmail.org) and never had a problem. I dunno what to suggest anymore. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Failures after Sendmail upgrade
Bob Sully wrote: - Transcript of session follows - smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs (stat failed) 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable # mkdir /usr/adm/sm.bin # cd /usr/adm/sm.bin # ln -sf /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper ./ NOTE: replace the above path with the path of your MM installation smrsh will need to have mailman's wrapper in it's directory and last I checked, sendmail (be it rpm or tarball) doesn't create that directory. -- M | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python RH 7.3
Mozzi wrote: I want to upgrade mailman 2.1 It tells me my pyhon is to old, what is the esiest way to upgrade python ? Install Python 2 rpm. Pretty straight forward. -- M | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python RH 7.3
Danny Terweij wrote: I want to upgrade mailman 2.1 It tells me my pyhon is to old, what is the esiest way to upgrade python ? Well, leave the old Python. RH needs it. Just go to www.python.org and download the 2.2 source. (only RH8 rpms there) No need. RedHat has RPMs for 7.3 as well: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.3/en/os/i386/python2-2.2.2-11.7.3.i386.rpm ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.3/en/os/i386/python2-devel-2.2.2-11.7.3.i386.rpm ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.3/en/os/i386/python2-docs-2.2.2-11.7.3.i386.rpm -- M | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman crashing
Setup: Mailman 2.1, running on Red Hat 7.3, with Sendmail 8.12.7. For the umpteen time now, Mailman has mysteriously stopped it's runners. I have attached a text file (qrunner.txt) which contains the last three times it stopped working. What's causing Mailman to just quit like this with no discernible reason? Is there something I can do to figure out what the reason might be? -- M | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24273) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24271) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24276) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24276) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24273) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24277) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24277) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24274) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24274) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24275) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24275) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24271) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 24276, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24271) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 24274, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24272) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24272) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Jan 22 14:13:53 2003 (24271) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 24272, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Jan 22 14:13:54 2003 (24271) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 24273, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Jan 22 14:13:54 2003 (24271) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 24275, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Jan 22 14:13:54 2003 (24271) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 24277, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29562) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29562) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29559) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29559) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29563) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29563) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29560) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29560) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29561) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 08 15:12:38 2003 (29561) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 08 15:12:37 2003 (29564) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 08 15:12:38 2003 (29564) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 08 15:12:40 2003 (29554) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Feb 08 15:12:40 2003 (29554) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 29562, sig: 15, sts: None, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 08 15:12:40 2003 (29554) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 29559, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1088) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1088) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1083) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1083) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1084) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1084) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1085) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1085) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1086) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1086) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1087) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 11 15:14:51 2003 (1087) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two lists: info@domain1.tld and info@domain2.tld
Sven Anders wrote: Hi, I want to use Mailman 2.1 for two lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I understand, this is not posible with mailman. Yes, and no. I've ran 2.0.11n for a long time with this exact setup, and now with 2.1 I'm still doing it. However, I run multiple setups of mailman. I installed mailman for each domain I needed it to manage. While this is a large overhead (of having it installed x-amount of times), it is a lot easier to manage. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Assertion Error?
Help? Jan 14 11:19:38 2003 (24275) Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/mailman/domain.net/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/domani.net/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/domain.net/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 129, in _dispose status = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /home/mailman/domain.net/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 152, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/domain.net/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py, line 67, in process ModeratedMemberPost) File /home/mailman/domain.net/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 207, in hold_for_approval id = mlist.HoldMessage(msg, reason, msgdata) File /home/mailman/domani.net/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 202, in HoldMessage assert not self.__db.has_key(id) AssertionError -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error comfirming subscription from Mailman
Feng Jeffrey wrote: After I installed Mailman on my FreeBSD server, I created a test list and sent a subscription to it, the server returned the folowing error message. What causes this problem? Any help will be appreciated. Jeffrey -- The original message was received at Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:16:41 -0800 (PST) from localhost [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown) Did you add the aliases to your MTA's alias file? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Problems with Mailman server...
My subscription got disabled, so anyone who answers to this message, please CC me as well. I don't know if anyone noticed this or not, but when I go to my account preferences for this list (http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ashley%40pcraft.com), I can log in just fine, but whenever I try to submit anything (like re-enabling my subscription), it just sits there and will eventually just time out (or return a 'document contains no data' page.) I've tried Netscape 4.79, 7.01, and IE 6, they all behave the same way. Does anyone know if there is a problem with the server, or is there some there way I can re-enable my subscription? Remember to CC me as well since I'm no longer receiving list messages. Thanks. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Getting hostname...
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: How can I get the list hostname in MTA/Utils.py ? I'm hacking the _makealiases routines and I need to get the list hostname to add it. Nevermind. Got it from mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST (once defined) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Getting hostname...
How can I get the list hostname in MTA/Utils.py ? I'm hacking the _makealiases routines and I need to get the list hostname to add it. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about fixing an install..
Glenn Sieb wrote: Ok cool.. I'll hang out on 2.1b5 then until 2.1 final comes out... 2.1 final is out. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] vhosts (does it ever end?)
Under MM2.0.x I created separate installations for different virtual hosts. This allowed me to create the same list name, on a different virtual host without having mailman conflict. Now, with MM2.1, how should I continue to do this? I have one single machine that hosts several domains. I need to be able to create the same list name across different domains, and have them behave as separate lists as well. So, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be two separate lists. Since I'm using sendmail, and I make use of virtusertable, I need to specify each mailto address for sendmail to accept mail properly. Keeping all of this in mind, can, or will MM2.1 be able to do same-name list virtual hosting, or am I better off continuing my old setup of multiple MM installations, one for each virtual domain? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: What's hanging up mailman? [was Re: [Mailman-Users] elusiveqrunner PID]
Stephen Lu wrote: Sendmail is in a loop trying to send a message out to a number of subscribers. The other sides are rejecting it because Sender address rejected: Domain not found. This means your domain name is unresolvable by the recipient. Fix your DNS record. So Sendmail just kept trying and trying, and I can't send any new messages out over the list. New messages just get stacked in qfiles. So I've cleared out all files in qfiles and in locks, but Sendmail is still on a mission. How do I make it stop? That's because mailman will pass messages along to sendmail for delivery. What you say in 'qfiles' is only mailman's queue files. You need to clear our sendmail's queue as well. Shut it off (service sendmail stop), go into /var/spool/mqueue and clear it out, then start sendmail again (service sendmail start). Keep in mind that clearing out /var/spool/mqueue means you're clearing out all other queue file that doesn't belong to mailman as well. It's up to you. -- M | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Creating announce-only list
Marci O'Daffer wrote: I read the FAQ, and have questions. -- I want to hide the list address, so no one can post to it. don't want to have a bunch of admin requests to deal with from people sending posts. Is there a way to automatically reject all incoming messages? (using version 2.0.13) To my knowledge, no. Not in 2.0.13 at least. I haven't played with the 2.1 release just yet - close. -- Is there any way to change the message text that is sent to new subscribers? The basic text includes to send a message to this list... and the list address. Yes. Edit your template: templates/subscribeack.txt -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] GUI anomoly in 2.1b5
Tim Crouch wrote: I installed 2.1b5 and configured 1 list. I am running on port 8080. Initially, admin web interface worked EXCEPT for when I needed to approve a submission. When I clicked on Submit All Data, I got a 404. I realized the URL was for 80 not 8080. So I ran configure with-urlhost specifying 8080 and make make install. All works great! However, I just created a second list and am seeing the exact same problem. I modified Defaults.py DEFAULT_URL_HOST to FQDN:8080. Did not fix the problem. Is there something simple I am missing? Defaults.py will only apply to lists created after the change, not existing lists. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] wrapper executing, but doing NOTHING
Joel Glickman wrote: Anyone have any advice? I've RTFM'd and think I've done everything right? You didn't RTFM the ENTIRE installation file. Nowhere do you mention anything of the crontab that you're supposed to install for Mailman to work. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What to backup
Brian Read wrote: Please could someone confirm that if I backup /opt/mailman and all below, then I am backing up the complete mailman installation including the address lists and actual messages? Don't forget to backup the actual list aliases as well. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] New apache is causing my mailman to fail...
Steve Rifkin wrote: admin(8622): ImportError: ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/python: fatal: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6: bad ELF flags value: 768 My guess would be that you compiled python yourself, against the old version of openssl. now that you've upgraded openssl, python doesn't work because it can't find the old openssl. Or at least, the library isn't the same. If you tried running python by itself (just type in /usr/local/bin/python), you may find that it won't work either. You'll have to recompile python again. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] New apache is causing my mailman to fail...
Steve Rifkin wrote: Python worked fine before and after the openssl upgrade. Mailman worked before the openssl upgrade but only with the older Apache. With the new Apache and older ssl, mailman's web interface broke. Same errors. With the new openssl, we still get the same errors. As a precaution, I reinstalled python again. Openssl and python and apache all work, just not with mailman. Did you guys by any chance recompile mailman as well? (not that it should make any difference, but it wouldn't hurt) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't subscribe via web
Support wrote: I created a test list and tried subscribing via the web interface. I get an email requesting that I reply as confirmation. I reply but don't get a confirmation email back and my email is not listed as a member. Did you install the crontab? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:ashley;pcraft.com . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Official Mailman Logo in EPS format
Bob Horton wrote: I am involved in an Open Source Expo and we would like to put a large version (ie about 10 x 20 inches) of the Mailman logo on the back of a booth. Where would I go to find a version in EPS format that could be used? The problem is that we don't have any large enough file to use for such print. All we have are these small jpg logos - at least, those are the only ones I've ever seen. I can easily open up the large logo (at list.org) and save it out as an EPS, however printing it at such large size will only yield a rather bad, pixelated image. Not something you'd want to use on a booth. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:ashley;pcraft.com . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] e-mail to lists are rejected
Emmett Culley wrote: I can see that the messages to the list are rejected (maillog) as User unknown. I can see in the cron log that qrunner is invoked every minute. I disabled the news portion in crontab.in. Did you forget to add the necessary aliases to sendmail? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:ashley;pcraft.com . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] e-mail to lists are rejected
Emmett Culley wrote: - Transcript of session follows - Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 47. (Reconfigure to take 47?) 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 This means you compiled mailman with mail-gid 12, while your system is really running with mail-gid 47. You need to reconfigure and recompile mailman. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:ashley;pcraft.com . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: qrunner is showing all kinds of lock files all of a sudden. The server had some issues today and had been rebooted a couple of times - then the lock files appeared. Do I need to restart something with Mailman? It looks like messages aren't coming thru. I'm using 2.0.13 Just delete those lock files. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question
WhitmoreWebWorks wrote: Well, I had done that - but more kept coming. For the same lists that had developed lock files. Should I be checking those individual lists for errors? Sorry - I just am not sure where I should be looking to fix this mess. Mailman creates lock files whenever it's accessing the config.db file. This happens both through qrunner, as well as any access to the web interface. The difference is that the web interface creates short lock files - short in the sense that they will get deleted as soon as that task is done (whether you're logging in, or viewing one of the membership pages.) Qrunner on the other hand creates a lock file for as long as it needs it - and it's that length of time that may be a problem. If it's taking more than (the default) 5 minutes for qrunner to finish its task, that lock file can become stale when cron fires off a second qrunner task. One thing you could do is this: temporarily remove the qrunner task from cron. Then manually try to run it and see how long it takes. If it takes a while to run, you may have to adjust your cron time. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question
WhitmoreWebWorks wrote: Do you think there could be something wrong with the server that is doing this? The fact that you have processes that are hanging (besides just mailman), yes. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to kill the evil that is sendmail
Angel Gabriel wrote: How do I check mailmans queue? Look in ~mailman/qfiles/ Sendmail is only evil when not properly configured. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error installing 2.0.13
Maria Garcia Suarez wrote: I uncompress it to /home/mailman-2.0.13, cd to that directory and run (as root, as normal user I get the same eror): You're trying to install Mailman into the same directory that you've uncompressed it in. That's why you're getting errors. Uncompress the sources some place else (like /usr/local/src), and configure it in there, make and install it from there. It will, by default, try to install in /home/mailman... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Error installing 2.0.13
Maria Garcia Suarez wrote: What's exactly $prefix? The place where I uncompress the files or the place where the program will be installed? Where it will be installed. You don't have to specify this UNLESS you do not want to install it into /home/mailman. If you don't specify a $prefix, it will automatically install in /home/mailman. ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/src/mailman-2.0.13 Don't specify a $prefix. What you need to worry about are the --with-mail-gid and --with-cgi-gid options. Kisses, Hrm. Been a while since any woman send (or gave) me kisses. Thanks! :) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Error installing 2.0.13
Maria Garcia Suarez wrote: /who really apologises for disturbing so much... :-( and apreciates your help a lot You're not disturbing. You're asking for help - anyone is allowed to do that. mv: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre `/home/mailman/templates/*.html': No existe el fichero o el directorio /usr/bin/install: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre `*.html': No existe el fichero o el directorio mv: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre `/home/mailman/templates/*.txt': No existe el fichero o el directorio /usr/bin/install: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre `*.txt': No existe el fichero o el directorio make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/mailman-2.0.13/templates' make: *** [doinstall] Error 2 Now this... Here's what's happening: The install script checks to see if you don't already have a previous installation, and tries to move the old files away prior to installing newer ones. However, since you don't have an older install, the 'mv' command fails. Now why it's actually quitting on you, that may be specific to your distribution. On my system when it fails, it ignores the error and continues on. I don't know what's the best solution here, but it could be something as simple as creating two blank files, but Mailman should test for the file existence first, before blindly 'mv'-ing things. Just my opinion. Barry? Anyone else who has in the past run up against this problem? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Error installing 2.0.13
Maria Garcia Suarez wrote: Just a comment: as I saw those errors I didn't check if everything was Ok, but after reading your mail I did, I went to $prefix and bin/check'ed_perms and system answered No problems found :-) That just checks for permissions. Based on your previous error message, none of the templates were copied over as they should have, so your installation isn't exactly complete yet. You will see errors once you start using your installation. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription options help
Jim Popovitch wrote: rant Mailman should allow unsubscriptions via confirmed email w/o requiring a password, there is no valid reason to require the password when unsubscribing via email. /rant rant Learn to search the archives and/or FAQ before ranting. There IS a solution to allow people to unsubscribe without using a password. If you just take 30 seconds to look, you would find it. Here, I'll give you a step-by-step walk through: Go to http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py (a link visible at the bottom of every Mailman post you have received so far) Type in 'passwords' in the search box and hit seach Voila, first hit. /rant -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] rmlist
J C Lawrence wrote: No need. Just blow away the list directory, archive directories and files, and any aliases manually. That's all that rmlist does... That's not why I said to escalate it up. Yes there are ways of removing the list without mercy, however I do believe that Mailman should try to remove it, regardless of someone making the mistake of having odd characters in the list name. Unless this particular problem is a python issue, in which case I think we should mention it to the python folks. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] List too big to load...
Angel Gabriel wrote: ... is it possible for a list to get too big to load via the web interface? I can't go to my member managment window, my browser just hangs, and then after about 3 minutes, it times out. I have a list of some 40,000+ members running on a PIII 600Mhz with 256MB of ram, and while I have adjusted the members display page to display 1,000 members at a time, I have no trouble with the browser timing out. Is it possible to manage the list from the command line? Yes. Feel free to explore the utilities in ~mailman/bin . -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] rmlist
Dave Warchol wrote: I am new to the list (and the application). In testing I have created a list named: Dave's list. I am able to see the list using list_lists, but cannot remove it using rmlist. I am guessing that it is the apostrohpe. Is there a workaround for this? Bad name for starters. Have you tried encapsulating the name? rmlist -a Dave's list And if that fails, try escaping the apostrophe: rmlist -a Dave\'s list -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] rmlist
Dave Warchol wrote: No joy. Gory details follow. I agree, bad name for a list, however, better to learn that now while in test. Any other suggestions? Oy, you got me. This will have to go to the upper level folks (i.e.. Barry)... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'newlist' problems
John M. Lockard wrote: The 'newlist' script created test.mbox and test2.mbox in the private directory and created symlinks to them in the public directory. BUT, in the public directory 'newlist' created a symlink for each list to a directory or file that doesn't exist in the private directory. This is correct. I figure that the symlink for test.mbox is probably correct, but am wondering if the test symlink should really be pointing at /var/mailman/lists/test??? There won't be any mbox if you're not archiving anything. Once your list starts archiving posts, that file that currently doesn't exist will automagically get created. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question:
Rajib A. Momen wrote: Is there no simpler way? It seems kind of redundant to have a user required to put in his password if hes sending from his own e-mail address. Is there any way I can create something that is very simple to click for users to unsubscribe? I was thinking maybe signing up all the users w/ the same password, perhaps the name of the list. However, I also do not know how to subscribe a user to a list with a specific password without his having to confirm it. Thanks so much for the help! Please read the Mailman FAQ located at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py. More specifically, lookup 'password' in the FAQ and you get this returned: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=passwordquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install problems
Alexander Czernay wrote: /usr/bin/install: `digest_arch' and `/home/mailman/bin/digest_arch' are the same file This tells me you've already installed it once, and are now doing it for the n-th time. Consequently, your system complains about the files being the same. Ignore. mv: Beim Verschieben mehrerer Dateien muß das letzte Argument ein Verzeichnis sein Versuchen Sie »mv --help« für weitere Informationen. /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `*.html': Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden mv: Beim Verschieben mehrerer Dateien muß das letzte Argument ein Verzeichnis sein Versuchen Sie »mv --help« für weitere Informationen. /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `*.txt': Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Unfortunately for you, of all the languages I know, this isn't one of them. However, reading the little bit of English in there, I suspect you have a faulted source. Or you're not installing from the correct location. It can't find (stat) any .html nor .txt files. AMK4 -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install problems
Alexander Czernay wrote: It seems to me, like it can't move some files and thus doesn't find them afterwards. Is it possible that the SuSE guys altered the mv command or that something else is going wrong here? Actually, it's just trying to move what's already in /home/mailman/templates to $file.prev (denoting a previous install), and it's not finding any files there - this can also be ignored. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Foolish Newbie Question - Python v. Python2
John DeCarlo wrote: --with-python=/path/to/python option to customize the installation, and have it say =/usr/bin/python2? Or what? I don't see why this wouldn't work. I don't know why Red Hat has both on there, but there might be a good reason to have both. This is why (based on one of my systems): # rpm -e --test python python is needed by PyXML-0.7-4 python is needed by 4Suite-0.11.1-8 python is needed by python-clap-1.0.0-3 python = 1.5.2-38 is needed by python-devel-1.5.2-38 python is needed by Distutils-1.0.2-2 python is needed by python-popt-0.8.8-7.x.2 /usr/bin/python is needed by PyXML-0.7-4 /usr/bin/python is needed by 4Suite-0.11.1-8 /usr/bin/python is needed by gettext-0.11.1-2 Whereas: # rpm -e --test python2 ...yields zip, nothing, nada. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] MailCommandHandler.py errors
Michael Pike wrote: Traceback (innermost last): File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 2 83, in ? kids = main(lock) File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 2 53, in main keepqueued = dispose_message (mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 1 57, in dispose_message mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg) File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py, line 123, in ParseMailCommands precedence = msg.get('precedence', '').lower() AttributeError : 'string' object has no attribute 'lower' This is an error that has been posted before by many (including myself) and I think the general solution was either downgrade to an earlier version of Mailman, or tell it to use python2 instead. Of course this would mean you have python2 installed. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] MailCommandHandler.py errors
Michael Pike wrote: I have Python2-2.2-16 (default rh73 install) and still getting the errors what is a good version to downgrade too? A default RH7.3 install will have python installed, and only if you've selected it, python2. By your message it looks like you have python2 installed, however python will still be on the system (many other rpm's rely on python, rpm being one of them), so Mailman is using that, not python2. Tell the configure script that you want to use python2 instead (read ./configure --help) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] stupid mistake?
Mailman wrote: Step 12: Executed in csh, #set MAILHOST=frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu #set WWWHOST=www.frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu #export MAILHOST WWWHOST export: Command not found. command not found. this explains the failure in step 16... try #setenv MAILHOST frybread... #setenv WWWHOST www.frybread... Step 18: Executed in csh, #make install make: don't know how to make install. Stop that's because you ran the configure command in /usr/local/mailman, not /root/mailman-2.0.13 fixing the above, and running the configure command in the right location will solve the other problems. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail from lists backing up...
David F. Reed wrote: I think I have the grand move almost done; but, I notice mail from the lists is piling up without going out... I suspect an SMTP configuration of some sort, but my users are getting mail out fine... did you install the crontab? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail from lists backing up...
David F. Reed wrote: Sorry I'm a bit slow here; some data might help: [root@david mailman]# tail smtp Sep 03 12:42:00 2002 (12367) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') Sep 03 12:42:00 2002 (12367) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.001 seconds i would start looking at your mta logs, see what error it's giving. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail from lists backing up...
Larry Rosenman wrote: What happens if you telnet to 127.0.0.1 25? sarcasm If *I* do it? -- # telnet mail.pcraft.com 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220-mail.pcraft.com ESMTP 220-Kemosabe no in tipi now. You leave'um message after little smoke signal, 220 and Kemosabe get back for pow-wow real fast.. ehlo pcraft.com 250-mail.pcraft.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you [snip] [send mail ... 250 2.0.0 g83IWht18115 Message accepted: There, doesn't that feel better? -- /sarcasm -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Serialize?
I did it again, reply instead of reply-all. Sorry claw... - AMK4 -- J C Lawrence wrote: 0) That is what the password reminders are for: They remind people that they are subscribed, and under what address etc. Therein lies the problem. These people aren't using passwords to begin with. Subscribers don't get reminders of what they are subscribed as either. That would've been the easy way out, unfortunately, I don't have that choice. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Serialize?
G. Armour Van Horn wrote: Those groups of multiple recipients are large - several hundred at a time. To make the change you suggest means multiplying your bandwidth and server requirements by the average size of your active lists. My most active list has 240 digest subscribers and 300 regular subscribers. Both appear to be handled in a single command. Done one at a time there would be a huge increase in CPU load and bandwidth, and folks at the end of a list would get their messages later than those at the head of the list. Ya, I realize all of this, however I have clients who would like, are requesting, and generally want this type of mechanism built in. The main reason is because many of the subscribers no longer remember what e-mail address they used to subscribe, and consequently don't know what to use to UNsubscribe. Having Mailman serialize its messages will provide a simple way for them to unsubscribe. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Resetting list admin password if list admin forgot password
David Luu wrote: Is there an easy way to overide a list admin password and reset it to a default password if the admin forgets the password? Use the site admin password to log in and change the password. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing issue
Dustin Reiner wrote: Since I searched the archives to no avail, I am sending my question to the list. Earlier today, sendmail began refusing connections due to high load. The load was caused by a mailman python process running and consuming a lot of CPU and memory resources (By a lot I mean it fluctuated from 8-90% CPU, and 26% of memory). Make sure Mailman is not running into an error with your lists and locking up. Check your ~mailman/logs/error file for any signs of trouble. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I searched the FAQ and couldnt find anything. My list was running fine and then Saturday it just stopped working. Weve sent test after test with no luck. I would appreciate any assistance or advice you can offer. Thank you I doubt any FAQ would be able to tell you why your list stopped working. Is there any chance you could look in your ~mailman/logs/error file and see if it's logging any errors? Could you also verify that your crontask is still running? Those are the very minimum you should start with to see if they shed any light on the problem. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] managing mailman lists through webmin version 0.990
Dene Ulmschneider wrote: Does anyone here know how to redirect Webmin to look in a different location for the mailman files? When I try to access the Mailman Manager through webmin - I get the following error: Cannot find Mailman files! Do you have Mailman installed? But I know I have mailman installed and working - it already has a few lists that are running correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is really a question for the webmin mailing list. I would assume there are configuration files for webmin where you can alter the default paths, however not using webmin myself, I can't verify that theory. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Error log
Found these in my error log today. Can anyone explain them to me please? Aug 19 02:48:22 2002 (30100) Traceback (innermost last): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 74, in process deliver(admin, msgtext, chunk, refused) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 210, in deliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py, line 496, in sendmail (code,resp)=self.rcpt(each, rcpt_options) File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py, line 379, in rcpt return self.getreply() File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py, line 281, in getreply line = self.file.readline() File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 143, in sigterm_handler sys.exit(0) SystemExit: 0 Aug 19 03:17:50 2002 (31635) Delivery exception: 0 Aug 19 03:17:50 2002 (31635) Traceback (innermost last): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 77, in process mlist.Lock() File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 1343, in Lock self.Load() File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 892, in Load dict, e = self.__load(dbfile) File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 875, in __load dict = marshal.load(fp) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 143, in sigterm_handler sys.exit(0) SystemExit: 0 Aug 19 03:17:50 2002 (31635) Delivery exception: Aug 19 03:17:50 2002 (31635) Traceback (innermost last): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 68, in process mlist.Save() File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 843, in Save self.__lock.refresh() File /home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 204, in refresh raise NotLockedError NotLockedError: Aug 19 11:22:42 2002 (9064) Delivery exception: 0 Aug 19 11:22:42 2002 (9064) Traceback (innermost last): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 74, in process deliver(admin, msgtext, chunk, refused) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 210, in deliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py, line 496, in sendmail (code,resp)=self.rcpt(each, rcpt_options) File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py, line 379, in rcpt return self.getreply() File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py, line 281, in getreply line = self.file.readline() File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 143, in sigterm_handler sys.exit(0) SystemExit: 0 -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI problem
V.S.Mony wrote: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 48. (Reconfigure to take 48?) Seems your cgi-gid is 48, not 99. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist Items
Kind request: Do not post in HTML. -- Rajesh Patel wrote: (1) On subscription, the email sent out requires the user to ACTIVATE the mailing request before they actually get added to the list. This is to address an issue where people are sometimes registered without their consent! This already exists. The default setting is for every subscription to be confirmed by the person whose e-mail was submitted. The other options are to require list manager approval (with no confirmation) or to require both list manager approval and e-mail confirmation. If your list behaves in any other matter than these three, then you have a custom setup and there's nothing we can do about that. (2) A feature that allows a user to register someone else (a friend) with an Introduction ADDED to the subscription email that is sent. So I could subscribe a friend and add a personal messge so they know I sent this to them ... Don't you think this defeats question (1) ? Having it open for anyone to subscribe anyone else does exactly the opposite from what you want to happen in question (1). -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Compiling CGI-Wrappers
Kind request: Please do not post in HTML. -- Sigifredo A. González Alvarado wrote: I'm triying to create some CGI-Wrappers from some python files, how do i compile them? and How do i compile the python files on Mailman/Cgi into the cgi-bin directory? Mailman takes care of its own Python files (notice how there are .py and .pyc files in the folder Mailman). Every time you change something on a .py file, the next time Mailman runs, it will recompile that file into a .pyc file. So you don't have to worry about that. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] post approval
arislist wrote: why is it when i approve the message for posting.. no ones recieve it? Did you install the qrunner cron task? No message gets delivered to list members if the crontask isn't running. Read your INSTALL file again and follow the steps to install the crontask for your installation. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe requests
zeek wrote: Nowhere have I found a way to answer subscribe requests automagically w/Mailman. Does anyone have an add-on or patch for this? The only way I've been able to make this work is to disable passwords all together. Note that this applies to the 2.0.x stable version of Mailman. From the Mailman FAQ (http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py): -- 1.5. How do I turn off passwords completely? This is an upcoming feature and may be available in a current alpha or beta release. Try http://satya.virtualave.net/download.html#mailmanw in the meantime. -- -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman mailing lists - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)
Chris Winterrowd wrote: How well does Mailman scale, and what's the largest number of lists that anyone has reported having? I'm looking to replace majordomo which just crossed 18,000 lists and the growth is increasing exponentially. Any success stories or horror stories are welcome! Eh, 18,000 lists, or 18,000 subscribers? Please note that performance is mostly based on the hardware you're using. However, as many on here will also vouch for, having the right combination of software also helps a great deal. While Sendmail is the default MTA on many platforms (I said many, not all), it's not exactly the best one suited for large mailing lists. There are faster ones, Postfix, Qmail and Exim to mention a few. I have several large (10,000+ subscribers per list) lists running on a (cramped) 200MHz RISC machine with 512Mb of RAM, and while it's not the fastest one on the farm, it does the job quite nicely. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1b2: wrong admin archives URL
bronto wrote: So if I go to http://www.rightdomain.com/mailman/listinfo/somelist and click on the admin link it goes to http://www.wrongdomain.com/mailman/admin/somelist. Apparently this info is hard-coded somewhere, but I can't find it. Can someone in-the-know give me a hint? You should have these things set in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py If not, they're in ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1b2: wrong admin archives URL
bronto wrote: In any case, there still remains a problem with archives; every one of my lists points to a URL for archives at wrongdomain.com. Each list properly points to the correct domain in the Host name this list prefers for email. field, if that makes a difference. I think this must be a bug, or a programming oversight. Did you also check that the Base URL is correct for each list? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Archive Searching
I'm sure this may have been asked before, but does anyone have a 'search the archive' solution for Mailman? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Spam intrusion
I'd like to know how posts from NON-members are getting posted to lists that are explicitly set to only allow members: -- post to hyperbolical from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=743, success post to hypnotica from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=723, 1 failures post to notgoingtostop from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=755, success post to perennity from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=726, success -- This is running MM 2.0.11 and for whatever dumb reason it rejects some, and it allows others. All lists are set to allow only members to post (I've just verified that myself), yet as you can see above, three out of four got through without a hitch. Can someone tell me what might be happening? Is there anywhere else I need to look for possible errors, or misconfigurations? -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to display all the lists in a master page
Larry Guest wrote: excellent, it works but my lists are not publicly-advertised so they dont show up. I would like to keep them private but still have a link like this, does that make sence, can it be done?? What's the point in having this link, _and_ try to keep them private? This can not be done. They're either public (visible), or private. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring sendmail
Mike Watson wrote: I'm pretty new to all this. I'm trying to setup a maillist for a small group at our church. I have a server running RH 7.2 Linux and mailman 2.0.11. RH has the software installed as well as setting up Apache. I created a test list and everything looks OK. I also created a mail alias for list-owner. The problem is when I reply to the confirmation message, the e-mail fails with a sendmail error 511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist. When you created the test list, did you add the aliases to sendmail's alias list, and issued a 'newaliases' command? -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not creating users?? (new install question)
Mark Rauterkus wrote: How do you easily patch the contents of the output file (-o) into the aliases file? The cut and paste is a drag with pico, and the word wrap is a pain. newlist -o /etc/mail/aliases (everything gets APPENDED) NOTE: this will _also_ output the aliases to standard output -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suddenly Stopped
Joseph Kezar wrote: File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 279, in Present lines.append(self.__mlist.digest_header % self.TemplateRefs()) ValueError: unsupported format character 'r' (0x72) What could have broken this? And how can it be fixed? Someone edited the digest template? Check for characters needing to be escaped...I think - I don't use the digest feature on none but one of my lists. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py